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:''For other uses of "Cyrannus", see [[Cyrannus|this article]].''
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In "[[The Long Patrol]]", [[Starbuck (TOS)|Starbuck]] refers to the [[The Twelve Colonies (TOS)|Twelve Colonies of Man]] as being in the "Cyrannus Galaxy". This name created confusion to viewers since:
The '''Cyrannus galaxy''' is the location of the [[Twelve Colonies of Man]].  


* The Colonials are seeking [[Earth]].
{{TOS|The Fleet}} passes through a swath of [[asteroid dust]] during its exodus from the Colonies in [[7348]], separating the outer periphery of the Cyrannus galaxy from other regions disconnected from the Colonies during the [[Thousand-Yahren War]] {{OS|The Long Patrol}}.
* The [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|Original Series]] does not provide sufficient information to determine if intergalactic travel is in use by the [[The Fleet (TOS)|Fleet]].


Given that the series gives numerous references (particularly in one episode, "[[Greetings from Earth]]") that the Earth sought after by the Colonials is the same Earth in what is known by its inhabitants as the "Milky Way Galaxy", it is probable that the Colonials have a different name for this galaxy that is common to both Earth and the [[Battle of Cimtar|shattered worlds]] of the Colonies. This is supported by the Colonial's differing use of units of measure, such as [[yahren]].
Prior to about [[6848]], the Colonials had formerly established extra-galactic settlements, including the penal planetoid of [[Proteus]] {{OS|The Long Patrol}} that had been abandoned and forgotten about during the last yahrens of the Thousand-Yahren War. Additionally, Colonials had knowledge of other locales, including [[Gamoray]] that, in 7348, became the "outer capital" of the [[Cylon Empire]] after the fall of the [[Delphian Empire]] to the Cylons {{OS|The Living Legend, Part I}}.


The notion that the "Cyrannus galaxy" and "Milky Way galaxy" are the same galaxy is further supported by the [[spin-off]] series, ''[[Galactica 1980]]'', where the Fleet finds Earth some 30 years after the [[Battle of Cimtar]]. Given that the [[Propulsion (TOS)|nature of propulsion]] in the Original Series was never defined, it is more logical (and perhaps less improbable) that the Fleet could traverse a large span of several thousand light-years within the Milky Way galaxy (which is approximately 100,000 light-years in diameter) than to make a journey from one galaxy to another (with distances in hundreds of millions of light-years).
== Planets and Locales ==
 
The following planets and locales within the Cyrannus galaxy are organized in order of their being encountered by the Fleet on its outward flight: 
 
* [[Nova of Madagon]] {{OS|Saga of a Star World}}
* [[Carillon]]† {{OS|Saga of a Star World}}
* [[Arcta]] {{OS|The Gun on Ice Planet Zero}}
* [[Otarsis]] {{OS|Lost Planet of the Gods, Part I}}
* [[Magnetic void]], an astral phenomenon {{OS|Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II}}
* {{TOS|Kobol}}, home of the human race {{OS|Lost Planet of the Gods, Part II}}
* [[Equellus]], an outer outpost of the Colonies {{OS|The Lost Warrior}}
 
Nearest to the Colonies were:
 
* [[Cimtar]], location of the [[Battle of Cimtar]] {{OS|Saga of a Star World}}
* [[Borallus]] {{OS|Saga of a Star World}}
* [[Borella]], home of [[Borellian Nomen]] {{OS|The Man with Nine Lives}}
 
== Notes ==
=== Astral Semantics vis-à-vis "Galaxy" ===
 
Opinion is divided whether the Colonies lie in the same galaxy as {{TOS|Earth}}, which—given numerous references (particularly in "[[Greetings From Earth]]") that the Earth sought after by the Colonials is our Earth—would have to be identical to our "Milky Way galaxy."
 
Opponents of such an identity can point to Commander {{TOS|Adama}}'s clear statement in "[[Saga of a Star World]]," that Earth is located "in a galaxy similar to our own."
 
Proponents of the identity of the two galaxies argue that it is less improbable that {{TOS|the Fleet}} could traverse a large span of several thousand light-years within the Milky Way galaxy (approx. ‎170,000 – 200,000 light-years in diameter) than to make a journey from one galaxy to another, as it implies a journey of two million light-years or more. 
 
Note that both explanations automatically assume that the "galaxy" term means the same thing to the Colonials as it does to us, i.e. a massive system of millions or billions of individual star systems orbiting a common center of mass.  This is not necessarily the case (see e.g. [[micron]] and [[parsec]]).
 
=== The ''Galactica 1980'' Postulate ===
 
If viewing both the [[Original Series]] and its spinoff ''[[Galactica 1980]]'' in a holistic way, statements such as "[Earth's] proximity to the sun provides the only climate in the galaxy comfortably able to support life as we know it" {{G80|Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I}} suggests a Colonial's "galaxy" may in fact be the same thing as a star system. Thus the Cyrannus "galaxy" may in fact consist only of a handful of stars and planets orbiting each other, broadly similar to our own solar system.
 
This is supported in that the phrase "Star System" is used in place of "galaxy" throughout [[Saga of a Star World]].  It seems the two terms are reversed.
 
In the [[spin-off]] series ''[[Galactica 1980]]'', the Fleet reaches 30 years after the [[Battle of Cimtar]]. The {{TOS|Battlestar Galactica|Original Series}} neither defines the [[Propulsion (TOS)|nature of propulsion]], outside of vague terms like "[[lightspeed]]" in "[[The Living Legend, Part II]]," nor does it provide sufficient information to determine if intergalactic travel is in use.


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For subjects with a similar name, see: Cyrannus.

The Cyrannus galaxy is the location of the Twelve Colonies of Man.

The Fleet passes through a swath of asteroid dust during its exodus from the Colonies in 7348, separating the outer periphery of the Cyrannus galaxy from other regions disconnected from the Colonies during the Thousand-Yahren War (TOS: "The Long Patrol").

Prior to about 6848, the Colonials had formerly established extra-galactic settlements, including the penal planetoid of Proteus (TOS: "The Long Patrol") that had been abandoned and forgotten about during the last yahrens of the Thousand-Yahren War. Additionally, Colonials had knowledge of other locales, including Gamoray that, in 7348, became the "outer capital" of the Cylon Empire after the fall of the Delphian Empire to the Cylons (TOS: "The Living Legend, Part I").

Planets and Locales

The following planets and locales within the Cyrannus galaxy are organized in order of their being encountered by the Fleet on its outward flight:

Nearest to the Colonies were:

Notes

Astral Semantics vis-à-vis "Galaxy"

Opinion is divided whether the Colonies lie in the same galaxy as Earth, which—given numerous references (particularly in "Greetings From Earth") that the Earth sought after by the Colonials is our Earth—would have to be identical to our "Milky Way galaxy."

Opponents of such an identity can point to Commander Adama's clear statement in "Saga of a Star World," that Earth is located "in a galaxy similar to our own."

Proponents of the identity of the two galaxies argue that it is less improbable that the Fleet could traverse a large span of several thousand light-years within the Milky Way galaxy (approx. ‎170,000 – 200,000 light-years in diameter) than to make a journey from one galaxy to another, as it implies a journey of two million light-years or more.

Note that both explanations automatically assume that the "galaxy" term means the same thing to the Colonials as it does to us, i.e. a massive system of millions or billions of individual star systems orbiting a common center of mass. This is not necessarily the case (see e.g. micron and parsec).

The Galactica 1980 Postulate

If viewing both the Original Series and its spinoff Galactica 1980 in a holistic way, statements such as "[Earth's] proximity to the sun provides the only climate in the galaxy comfortably able to support life as we know it" (1980: "Galactica Discovers Earth, Part I") suggests a Colonial's "galaxy" may in fact be the same thing as a star system. Thus the Cyrannus "galaxy" may in fact consist only of a handful of stars and planets orbiting each other, broadly similar to our own solar system.

This is supported in that the phrase "Star System" is used in place of "galaxy" throughout Saga of a Star World. It seems the two terms are reversed.

In the spin-off series Galactica 1980, the Fleet reaches 30 years after the Battle of Cimtar. The Original Series neither defines the nature of propulsion, outside of vague terms like "lightspeed" in "The Living Legend, Part II," nor does it provide sufficient information to determine if intergalactic travel is in use.