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Revision as of 05:43, 10 April 2006 by Papabile (talk | contribs) (Season 2.0 and 2.1 DVD)

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Need help with a new article namespace

I want to create an entry on the atmosphere testing stick Starbuck used when stranded on the small moon in "You Can't Go Home Again", but do not know what the official name of the device is in order to name and initiate the page , and thoughts? — Lestatdelc 21:40, 3 December 2005 (EST)

"Field oxygen meter"? --Peter Farago 21:55, 3 December 2005 (EST)
We use many descriptive terms here to give a name to something not yet officially named in the show. "Humano-Cylon", Unknown Cylon Ship, and "Presidential security service" are good examples. Feel free to create a descriptive term, and note it as such in a note in the article. It can always be moved later to its official name once we find it. --Spencerian 00:06, 4 December 2005 (EST)

Why is a raven like a writing desk?--Ricimer 23:16, 30 January 2006 (EST)

You should probably use something like F.A.T (Field Atmosphere Test[er]). The military loves
to abbreviate and soldiers love to make these terms into vulgar slang whenever they can.--IcePlanetZero 00:15, 18 February 2006 (EST)

Colonel Tigh / Colonel Tye historical connection in TOS?

Hi, I'm sorry if this has been mentioned before, but I searched the wiki for mentions tying (heh) together the TOS Col. Tigh and the historical Col. Tye, who was a feared military commander on the side of the British during the American Revolution, and a freed African-American slave.

More info on him here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_Tye

Has anyone ever asked Terry Carter if this historical figure had any impact on his portrayal on TOS? I can't believe the name's a coincidence. --Boradis

I'm sorry, but I think that's pure coincidence.--Ricimer 00:31, 2 February 2006 (EST)

Cast Data infobox?

With all the work Peter and the others are doing in regards to the cast and behind the scenes crew, I am wondering whether or not it is time to create a cast data template (similar to {{Character Data}}). It would probably look a lot better than blurbs on top of the main pages (such as those presently on the Edward James Olmos page). Thoughts? Critisims? Questions? -- Joe Beaudoin 22:10, 11 February 2006 (EST)

Wikipedia uses Template:Infobox Biography, which includes full name and dates and places of birth and death. I'm not entirely sure such a thing is useful, and there was enough controversy to generate a fairly active debate on Templates for Deletion (which it survived).
Joe, what sort of information would you want to include in addition to that? Links to IMDB, episode categories and offsite biographies such as on EJO's page? --Peter Farago 23:16, 11 February 2006 (EST)
Actually, it apparently survived a TfD twice. Here's the other one. Let me make it clear that my feelings on this are extremely mixed - I think the possibility exists that it could be done right, but I'd rather figure out what "right" is before we implement it than after. --Peter Farago 23:25, 11 February 2006 (EST)
I don't think the "infobox biography" template that Wikipedia uses is all that terribly useful either. Typically, the fields I would like to see included are: name, birth date and location, date of death, character actor portrays; the infobox would include links to IMDB and NNDB, as well as the actor's official site. -- Joe Beaudoin 10:18, 12 February 2006 (EST)
Would we want to include things like marital status or anything like that, or is that too tangental? --Day 20:23, 12 February 2006 (EST)
I would find that a bit voyeuristic. --Peter Farago 20:59, 12 February 2006 (EST)
I would avoid going into that much detail. Just the fields I listed above should be satisfactory. -- Joe Beaudoin 21:53, 12 February 2006 (EST)

The Kitt Joke

dunno if anybody made this joke before... once upon a time, humans and cylons were friends and were working together: click me (may be deleted, xbruce ;-) EDIT: sorry, didn't know where to put this...)

Yeah, but we all know what happened to the first version of this nice device. --Astfgl 04:52, 14 February 2006 (EST)


When Earth is found...

I know this may be a little too early, but it is inevitable. When Galactica finds Earth what time frame will it be set in (according to earth as we know it). Will they arrive in our past and find dinosaurs, thereby fulfilling a prophecy of the 13th tribe as well as our becoming our ancestors. Will they arrive in our present and fly a raptor the U.N. and ask for some nukes? Or will they arrive in our future, as they did in the original series and ask for Earths military assistance?

What would you prefer, or predict? Personally I think a Raptor should come back from a recon mission with the Voyager space probe, just when the fleet gives up hope on finding earth.

This is all speculation, but its coming and who knows, if Ron Moore is reading this maybe he'll use one of our ideas.--IcePlanetZero 00:17, 18 February 2006 (EST)

Ron D. Moore has repeatedly stated that they have intentionally never adressed this point or decided it, and are purposefully not going to; the story could take place at any time in the past, present, or future relative to Earth; see Miniseries DVD commentary.--The Merovingian 03:35, 18 February 2006 (EST)
I don't want to be a party pooper, but I don't see anything remotely inevitible about the idea that Galactica and the Fleet will eventually find Earth, even if they appear to have coordinates. If it were inevitible, I'm not sure there'd be any point in telling the story. This series is not necessarily about happy endings, after all.
That said, one speculation that leapt into my own brain a couple of weeks ago was this: suppose the Fleet finds an Earth of the not-too-distant future -- say, 50 years out. A future where humans casually jack in to networks, replace random limbs and organs with cybernetics, etc -- in short, a cyberpunk Earth a la Gibson, Sterling or Stephenson. It's not unimaginable that the Fleet would be a little fundamentalist on the point of human vs. machine at this stage, while such an Earth would be totally casual about humans using and integrating with machines. If the Fleet reacted too strongly to the cyborg culture they found, the Fleet could find Earth, only to see Earth side with the Cylons!--Uncle Mikey 11:31, 4 March 2006 (CST)

A proposal

I know this may come as a little unorthodox, but I would like to propose that a rule to our Standards and Conventions page, that at no time may any Battlestar Wiki User travel to planet Talos IV, under penalty of death. --The Merovingian 19:12, 18 February 2006 (EST)

Captain Christopher Pike is, of course, exempt from this. -- Joe Beaudoin 12:10, 4 March 2006 (CST)

Server time is wrong

Server time says 58 minutes after, time.org and time.windows.com (sync) says 21 minutes after. there are no time zones that are 23 minutes off GMT, are there? --Bp 01:59, 7 March 2006 (CST)

Let me do a time update/sync for the server. That should fix any discrepancies. -- Joe Beaudoin 09:32, 7 March 2006 (CST)

Wikipedia user box

Just letting everyone know that Battlestar Wiki has its own userbox on the English Wikipedia. Simply enter in {{User Battlestar Wiki}} on your Wikipedia user page and off you go. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin 15:34, 7 March 2006 (CST)

Uhm... Wha? I dropped it in to see what it was and... It no worikie. What's it supposed to do? I tried to find it to see if I was breaking it, but it seems not to exist? --Day 23:50, 7 March 2006 (CST)
Eh, it's on Wikipedia, not on Battlestar Wiki. -- Joe Beaudoin 17:15, 8 March 2006 (CST)
Oh. Ahha. I see... If you're a Wikipedia editor AND a BSG Wiki editor, you can note your editorship here on your user page there. Got it. --Day 03:58, 9 March 2006 (CST)

Battlestar Galactica Model Kits

Hello all,

I am writing this because I am a bit peeved about the prices of "Battlestar" models. I have 3 Battlestars from Revell/Monogram and after all was said and done it came to me that these are way over priced( aftermarket wise ). You can get the Cylon Basestar for $5 on ebay but when you type in "Battlestar" you can expect to pay at least $50.00+ and I have seen them way higher! I know the kit is now out of production but come on now!

I wrote Revel/Monogram a few months back asking if they will ever be re-issuing the line again and what I got back from them was simply that they did'nt believe the Name was popular enough to re-issue the kits (I'm gussing they don't ever look on the internet to see the litteraly hundreds of popular Battlestar Galactica devoted websites or read Time Magazine which stated that Battlestar Galactica was THE show to watch!)

I guess I am venting somewhat but really, those of us who missed out on the 78-79 Issuing of these models and then again in 97 (Which no model shops anywhere near me ever got) what are we to do? Getting a battlestar model is like going to a scalper outside of a popular concert and having to pay 8 times what the ticket is worth!

Looking at the new and very small Battlestar kits from the new Battlestar Galactica show make me nervous as well. An 8 inch model can cost $75 to $100 canadian, makes me wonder how much it would be if they made it to scale with the old Revel/Monogram ( 18inch ) kits!

Does anyone out there feel the same way, or is it just me that these are over priced!?

Also ,does anyone know if they will be doing a larger Battlestar Models, close to the size of the original models?

error on Battlestar Wiki:Help

This header has the h4 font, but is NOT in the Table of Contents

shows up in the Table of Contents... I do not know why. I have checked multiple browsers and It shows up in all of them.

Talk pages for actors?

If you click on William Adama you get a page describing the character and naming the actor playing the character. Associated with that page is a "talk page" containing discussions and inquiries about the character. All very logical.

Now if you click on Edward James Olmos, the actor in this case, you are taken to a page containing his biography (and it's a good read, too). But there doesn't seem to be a "discussion" page for the actor. Is there a reason for this? Maybe nobody wants to talk about Edward James Olmos (or Mary McDonnell or ...) outside of the context of BSG. Or is there some policy to the effect that one simply doesn't do that in the BSG Wiki? --JohnH 15:38, 11 March 2006 (CST)

Sir, the only reason there is "no talk page" is because nothing has been posted in it yet; it's "there", it's just that there's been no discussion yet. Discussion for actor pages would be used if someone says something controversial and not yet verified, which we would wait to find a source for. For example, if someone wrote on EJO's page "EJO thinks abortion is morally wrong", with no sources, the comment would be moved to discussion (in italics and quotes), and we would request a source (from a newspapaer, interview, etc.) Before either adding it back onto the page, or deciding never to put it back (be advised; I have no idea what EJO's views on abortion are, I just picked an issue at random). --The Merovingian 15:54, 11 March 2006 (CST)

Fatal error

When I Click this link: Gaius Baltar, I get...

  • Fatal error: Call to undefined function: wfregexreplacement() in /home/admin/domains/battlestarwiki.org/public_html/en/includes/MagicWord.php on line 297

Same thing for Tricia Helfer.

When I click your links I only get it for Tricia. Let me try : Tricia Helfer --Sauron18 21 March 2006
I'm getting the same thing for James Callis. --Steelviper 15:33, 21 March 2006 (CST)
New scary error on "Recent Changes":
"Fatal error: Call to undefined function: wfclone() in /home/admin/domains/battlestarwiki.org/public_html/en/includes/Linker.php on line 899"
Problem fixed. Let me know if there any additional issues. -- Joe Beaudoin 15:57, 21 March 2006 (CST)

The spam filter

The spam filter is lame. It refuses to save an <hr> with style="". Of course, it doesn't tell you that your work will be rejected while you preview it. Very frustrating. So what's the problem with <hr style="width:..."> anyway? --Bp 02:01, 22 March 2006 (CST)

I've removed the spam filter. It was causing too many issues anyway. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 09:37, 7 April 2006 (CDT)

Peabody award

On April 5th, 2006, BSG won a Peabody award.

From the peabody press release [1]:
[BSG] A belated, brilliantly re-imagined revival of a so-so 1970s outer-space saga, the series about imperiled survivors of a besieged planet has revitalized sci-fi television with its parallax considerations of politics, religion, sex, even what it means to be "human."

FYI. --Bp 22:39, 6 April 2006 (CDT)

BSG in the Comics

Battlestar Galactica has made it into the comics! In the syndicated comic strip "Baldo" by Cantu and Castellano, Baldo and his friend are watching BSG. It focuses on Adama giving commands with a Latino flare. The comics can be viewed at the Baldo Website. Click on the dates for April 5, 6, 7, 2006.--Monkeyboy

Yes, thanks. It was also in this great Dilbert a few weeks back. --The Merovingian (C - E) 12:58, 7 April 2006 (CDT)

Season 2.0 and 2.1 DVD

Can anyone confirm whether they plan to release Season 2.0 and Season 2.1 as a complete DVD set of Season 2?