User talk:April Arcus

Zarek Rocks

Thanks a lot for the advice. I'm still trying to figure out all of the intricacies of this wiki thing. Hopefully I don't look like too much of a newb, lol.

Viper Ref. Numbers

are you going to do a list of the viper numbers since you have done one of the raptors and put them on offensive arment page?

I'll be happy to, if you can tell me which episodes to look in. I can't remember hearing any Vipers being identified numerically in the series. --Peter Farago 19:19, 12 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Most of the Viper numbers are likely to come from the DRADIS closeups, if anything else. -- Joe Beaudoin 12:25, 13 Aug 2005 (EDT)

you can find a lot of viper reference numbers in the mini series e.g. viper 450 etc

To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure that keeping track of individual vipers is going to be a very interesting endeavor. The raptors are at least countable - there are probably no more than ten - so it makes some sense to keep track of them on an individual basis. As far as the vipers go, it would seem sufficient just to give a simple headcount (currently 35, assuming none were destroyed off-screen in "Scattered"). --Peter Farago 19:33, 17 Aug 2005 (EDT)

I've started a few more articles on individual vipers, if the OP is still around/interested. --Peter Farago 17:40, 13 December 2005 (EST)

RTFF?

Hi Peter. Is RTFF an acronym for what I believe it is? If so, please refrain from using it in the edit summaries, if only out of civility. Thanks! :-)

Rag-Tag Fugitive Fleet. What did you think the second "F" stood for? --Peter Farago 12:56, 13 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Interesting acronym. :-) I was being a bit paranoid there, given that's an acronym for some other things as well. -- Joe Beaudoin 23:15, 13 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Race and Ethnicity in the Twelve Colonies

In your work you state that Gaius Baltar may have an interest only in white women. If you remember, Gaius was caught in bed with an East Asian woman in the miniseries by Number Six. -QuintusCinna

Good Catch, thank you. Six also intimated that he had some interest in Boomer. --Peter Farago 14:26, 28 August 2005 (EDT)

12 Colonies of Kobol Standards

I know, it sounds a little over eager. I took several zoom in snap shots of the 12 banners both in the mini-series and also in Colonial Day. These are definitely the icons and the colors. Icon was a name used and so far the planet relative to Libra has not been mentioned. This is the only colony I find debatable. Certain colonies may not go with certain standards such as Aquarius or Leonis. I made this with flash in between my summer graduate classes. If you would like to use it, I don't mind- just give me credit. link

Wow, these are really excellent. I've been thinking about creating something like this myself, but I'm glad you've beaten me to the punch. What format are the originals in, some kind of vector package?

I note that in the scene we're discussing, Wenutu and Sanne appear to be over different flags than usual. --Peter Farago 15:18, 28 August 2005 (EDT)

QuintusCinna = Yes, these are vector based using Flash. I've been having fun building a flash battlestar galactica encyclopedia, but was glad to see you already had this even though my flash stuff was nearly finished. If you pay attention to the flags behind, they are all at random placements and that they are placed differently than that of the miniseries' memorial at the end. I played with the idea that the memorial's flags were in order of when they were nuked while the flags on Cloud Nine were placed in order of their signing the Articles of Colonization. It's purely guess though. Note that in Colonial Day, the Sagittaron flag is at the farthest right while Tom Zarek is somwhere in the middle. This clearly shows to me there is no relation between the flags' placements and the delegates sitting.

A few thoughts:

If you want these images to be used to their fullest, it would be best to output them as high-resolution anti-aliased PNGs. The wiki software can scale them down for use in individual pages, and we could place them along the right-hand side of the relevant articles.

Question 1: Is Libra's colony is really called "Icon"? Where did you see this? I can't remember if Libron or Libris or whatever has been mentioned out loud in the series yet. What's your take?

Question 2: I could swear that the symbol on the side of Galactica was also on one of the flags, which I assumed to be Caprica because of the historical association. Was I just making it up?

Question 3: In your opinion, do the icons on the colonial flags bear any resemblance to the constellations they replaced (according to Home, Part II? --Peter Farago 17:01, 28 August 2005 (EDT)

QuintusCinna:

PNG? I never thought of that. I have them uploaded in gif for the time being. This can always change.

Question 1: I have not seen any information telling me there is a colony called Libra as of yet though I have watched each show probably about 7 times (I'm addicted). I'm still waiting. The Tomb of Athena did mention Libra, though. I do know that in the mini-series, Commander Adama or Laura Roslin said something like: "And the following colonies have been destroyed... Picon, Arelon, Sagittaron, Icon..." This isn't an exact quote but the subtitles even showed the word "ICON" which caught me off guard. The statement left an emphatic relation that it was more likely 1 of the 12 colonies instead of a moon like Trevor.

Question 2: The symbol on the side of Galactica is the flag for the 12 colonies unless I haven't been paying attention. It's like the US flag for the USA. In the center of the memorial flags at the end of the mini-series shows a black standard with the Phoenix icon in the middle and Battlestar Galactica BSG 75. This suggests to me that this is their symbol.

Question 3: I looked at the copy I have twice for Home, Part II and my copy is just way too dark. I would need to see better pictures to help me out because I'm not sure. I assume there would be a connection, especially since I remember Roslin saying Leo's constellation represents the flag of that tribe (which we can assume to be Leonis). Your pictures turn out so clear. I need to figure out how I can do the same.

Excellent work. I think they look great on the colony articles. --Peter Farago 20:38, 28 August 2005 (EDT)

I don't know the shapes of all 12 Zodiac signs off the top of my head (and maybe we should get some pictures of them in order to display along with these flags for others who want to compare this kind of thing), but Picon (aka Pices) is a couple of fish, usually one over the other, head to tail. I could see that symbol being derived from it. Also, Gemenon would be Gemini, the twins, which are usually depicted by something kind of like this: L7. Additionally, Scorpion looks like the symbol might have a tail with a stinger... Tauron's symbol could be a bull. Anyway, I think this indicates that at whatever points the flags were revised, the constelation symbols were replaced by a kind of updating or stylization of the original symbol. --Day 00:41, 30 August 2005 (EDT)

You said that Commander Adama in the miniseries said this: "Preliminary reports indicate a thermonuclear device of the 50 megaton range was detonated over Caprica City 30 minutes ago. Nuclear detonations have been reported on the planets Aerelon, Picon, Sagittaron and Gemenon. No reports on casualties, but they will be high."

-That's actually incorrect according to the subtitles. According to the subtitles, the Commander said this: "Preliminary reports indicate a thermonuclear device of the 50 megaton range was detonated over Caprica City 30 minutes ago. Nuclear detonations have been reported on the planets Aerelon, ICON, Sagittaron and Gemenon. No reports on casualties, but they will be high." This is where Icon was shown to be listed. It could be a misspelling on their part, but I think you would find it fascinating. It is in the miniseries at 48:45. --QuintusCinna 1:29, 15 October 2005 (EDT)

I haven't got the Miniseries DVD, but I'm certain that what I hear is "Picon". --Peter Farago 01:42, 16 October 2005 (EDT)

Character Data

Did you (or someone, I guess) edit the Character Data template such that more fields will be rendered invisible when left blank? If so, neat! However, if it was you, could you add to the documentation on the template's discussion page? If it wasn't you, then sorry and maybe you can help me track down who did? --Day 23:43, 8 September 2005 (EDT)

That was Joe. --Peter Farago 00:35, 9 September 2005 (EDT)

Test

• 321
• Test 123? Anything but that!

Answer on Ellen Tigh Page

I've posted my thoughts on the use of naming on the Ellen Tigh page on the Standards and Conventions talk page as you requested. Spencerian 16:12, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

Doing a Great Job

I just wanted you to know you've been doing excellent work. I'll try to be careful on anything I change, and if I do, I will explain. QuintusCinna

Hah! Nice edit. I especially liked the addition of signing work. --Day 15:35, 23 September 2005 (EDT)

Once again, nice edit. I had considered whether to do as you did or maintain alphabetical order and, in the end, just made an arbitrary choice. I neglected to weigh concision into the equation. I'm not known for being concise, though, so... At least I'm consistent. --Day 12:50, 16 December 2005 (EST)

New Messsage problem

Hi, Peter. Do you still have that "new message" problem, with it not going away? It's still there for me, and I was wondering if you had any ideas for getting rid of it. Thanks. --Fang Aili 14:26, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

Pictures

Hi, if you need any more pictures, let me know and I will try to find it. Btw, great job, keep up the good work. --Blacklight

Thank you. That was a timely addition. --Peter Farago 21:36, 30 September 2005 (EDT)

My condolences...

I've nominated you on the whatsit page. So... Go accept it or decline it. That is all. --Day 01:08, 21 December 2005 (EST)

Re: Welcome

Thank you greatly. --CalculatinAvatar 02:56, 28 December 2005 (EST)

Congrats!

Hi Peter! Just wanted to let you know that you are officially promoted to administrator! If you have any questions, feel free to ask them! Thank you and, again, congratulations! So say we all. -- Joe Beaudoin 21:20, 28 December 2005 (EST)

So say we all. --Steelviper 21:37, 28 December 2005 (EST)

So say we all! --Day 22:15, 28 December 2005 (EST)

Thanks, guys. Wow, look at all the pretty new tabs... --Peter Farago 22:33, 28 December 2005 (EST)

Sic transit gloria mundi :) --Ricimer 00:40, 29 December 2005 (EST)

So sez me too. Congratulations, Peter. --Spencerian 10:03, 29 December 2005 (EST)

Congratulations. --Talos 11:21, 29 December 2005 (EST)

Congrats Peter --Zareck Rocks 00:48, 30 December 2005 (EST)

Policy Page

Hey Peter, I wanted to ask for your help and advice on fixing the Policies page. I have been accumulating as many BSG Wiki policies into Category:Battlestar Wiki policies. In order to make the page as complete as possible I wanted to leave no gray areas by defining the word Policy, and list punishments for infringements against the set procedures. Is there anyway you can help me with reverting Policies to Battlestar Wiki:Policy and develop a list of possible punishments as well as how you can attain those punishments, set guidelines like:

After leaving spoiler information out of spoiler tabs after being warned you get such and such punishment.

I know such an infringement would be very minor but I just want to make the rules as black and white as possible. I would be happy to collaborate with you in the Battlestar Wiki:Policy talk page to develop a list of rules/punishments. Joe told me on his user talk page to ask you for assistance with this minor project because you would be highly capable of the task. Thanks and congrats again on your promotion.--Zareck Rocks 00:59, 30 December 2005 (EST)

Hrm. I don't necessarily think a set of rules/punishments is a terribly good idea. In my opinion, it's good to have our policies and guidelines set down in writing so that we can point new users to them, and have a general idea of pre-existing group consensus when disputes arise. It's important to keep in mind that our policies all reflect this consensus, and are not static - if a new user disagrees with a policy and argues pursuasively against it, it can (and should) be changed.

For minor violations, I don't really see the use in "punishing" someone, when their error can simply be corrected and the errant user pointed to the relevant policy.

In especially bad situations, it might be sensible to keep a log of a user's policy violations, which could be referred to in the event of a ban or RFA. For example, it certainly does not endear a user to me when they repeatedly post controversial or incorrect assertions without a source, but I see no need to revoke someone's privileges on account of such a thing. --Peter Farago 02:14, 30 December 2005 (EST)

Twelve Colonies Link on you User Page

You have a link to "The Twelve Colonies" on your user page. This leads to the disambig page. If you'd change it to "The Twelve Colonies (RDM)", there won't be any more links directly to the disambig page anymore. Thanks. --Steelviper 15:55, 19 January 2006 (EST)

Fixed. Your zeal in this matter is admirable, albeit somewhat frightening. --Peter Farago 20:06, 19 January 2006 (EST)

First the Twelve Colonies, and now the Cylons are next (followed shortly by the Pegasus). Perhaps this is a result of all the time I've been spending over in the (TOS) regions (but was that the cause, or a warning sign...). Mostly I'd like to get caught up on all the special pages so that we can better identify when things need fixing. 600+ disambigs was overwhelming to wade through. --Steelviper 09:17, 20 January 2006 (EST)

Roger on that - Minor Edits

Just something I am so werid from Wikipedia. --Shane 23:22, 20 January 2006 (EST)

Crud

Sorry, thanks for catching my bonehead misspelling of Roslin. I knew I picked the wrong day to quit drinking. Joemc72 00:13, 21 January 2006 (EST)

No hard feelings. It's an increasingly common error that's been bothering me on a couple forums. --Peter Farago 00:17, 21 January 2006 (EST)

Hey, I'm supposed to assume good faith, right? No hard feelings. If I screwed it up, I'm glad you called me on it. :)Joemc72 00:20, 21 January 2006 (EST)

The/the Fleet

Re: diff. Cool. It just needed a "the" at all, whether the T is big or little. There are a bunch of links, though, with the big T... Just keep you eye out, I guess. I'm thinking that's a lower priority than seeking out all the [[Last, First]] character links, for instance. ;) --Day 15:40, 22 January 2006 (EST)

IPA style

Peter,
First of all, I admire your eloquent and insightful contributions, and your cool head in heated discussions. Kudos on both.
Just in case you're not regularly checking the talk page for the IPA template, I thought I'd post my query here as well, since you seem to have knowledge of said template:
Wikipedia recomments placing a link before IPA text becuase the underscore makes reading the characters difficult. Is there a way to modify our template to comply? -- Mayosolo 16:50, 23 January 2006 (EST)

Replied at Template talk:IPA. --Peter Farago 21:06, 23 January 2006 (EST)

Name change

Peter, is it possible for you to change my username? --BMS 20:00, 27 January 2006 (EST)

No, only someone with Bureaucrat-level priveleges can do that. You'll need to ask Joe. --Peter Farago 21:59, 27 January 2006 (EST)

Sources for Virgon

When Starbuck leaves the brig and comes to the CIC, Tigh comments about a big fight "shaping up" in Virgon's orbit. 30 battlestars have been destroyed already. When we next hear about the condition of the Fleet, it's after the nuke crisis is over and the Atlantia has beem destroyed. Afterwards, we don't hear anything about engagements between the Fleet and the Cylon invasion force. If there were no gaps (like between the nuclear flash and Starbuck examining the damage), the Virgon battle could have been over within an hour This seems to indicate that the Colonial Fleet at this point has been obliterated. --mq59 01:35, 28 January 2006 (EST)

Thank you for reminding me of that. I suppose we don't have to make an explicit note of that dialog. In the future, please post clarifications such as this to the relevant article's talk page - it will be easier for future editors to locate there. --Peter Farago 02:04, 28 January 2006 (EST)

Quality Articles Reminder

I just wanted to remind you of this conversation. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. --Steelviper 00:56, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Re:Continuity errors (RDM)

Thank you for addressing your concerns. I have taken the use of fumarello to be valid based on the two previous pages:

• In the miniseries article:

The touch of classic Starbuck elements, i.e. the gambling and fumarello smoking, is a nice homage to the original that fits in nicely.

• In the Kara Thrace article:

There she digs up a stash of fumarellos, dons an old military fatigue jacket she apparently wore around her home, and starts up a battery-powered music player.

There are probably others that abound on the site as well. Lastly, the fumarello article iself states that the ep "Water" does use the term "fumarello", as well as explaining that it is made from the fumarella leaf.

If that is not the case, and cigars are really cigars in the "RDMiverse" (meaning that the "Water" reference is wrong), mea culpa. No offense is taken or intended; we're all here to make the best articles possible.--み使い Mitsukai 14:50, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Baltar does not explicitly refer to the cigar he gives Thrace as a "fumarello", he just calls the material it's made from "Fumarello leaf", and obviously on-screen evidence takes precedence over whatever RDM may call it on the commentary tracks. Since they have been explicitly referred to as cigars on a number of occasions, and never as "Fumarellos", I am going to revert your edit again. Please do not restore it unless you can provide an actual quote from an episode in favor of your position.

Here is the dialogue from "Water":

Gaius Baltar: Full colors, thank you. Thank you all for a most pleasant evening. A parting gift. Hand-rolled from some of the finest fumarello leaf on Caprica. It's also one of the last left in the universe.

Note that he never actually names the object he's giving her. Meanwhile, we've heard them explicitly referred to as cigars and cigarettes on several occasions:

"You Can't Go Home Again"

Kara Thrace: No cigar for you.

"Litmus"

Gaius Baltar: I, um, I brought you a cigar. Recovery gift.

"Final Cut"

Felix Gaeta: Gaeta: I hate cigarettes.

"Black Market"

Jack Fisk: By the way, did you get the cigars I sent over?

Lee Adama: Enjoy the cigars. Escort the vice President to his ship.

Phelan: Everyone has needs. Some settle for cigars or liquor.

"Scar"

Louanne Katraine: Scar's gonna smoke you like a fine cigar, my man.

So "cigar" wins 6-0, by my count. --Peter Farago 16:02, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Agreed. "Fumarello" appears to be the tobacco analog, but cigars are still "cigars" even in "Water". --Ricimer 16:27, 5 February 2006 (EST)

Star of Kobol

You deserve a Star of Kobol for transcribing act II of Res ship part I. It was almost as if RDM was TRYING to make it hard to transcribe, shifting around like that. I had actually picked that one to try to transcribe, and that first paragraph got me to quit. We don't have barnstars around here, but I figured some kudos were due. --Steelviper 23:41, 14 February 2006 (EST)

Re-imagined Series definition: "Direction, Range, and Distance", Colonial equivalent of radar or lidar

Re-imagined Series definition: Battlestar Group ^{(TRS: "Water")}. It also doubles as an acronym for the television series itself.

Re-imagined Series definition: nerve center or "bridge" of a battlestar, see: Combat Information Center

Original Series definition: a small cigar that Starbuck typically smokes (see: fumarello)

Re-imagined Series definition: tobacco or a type of tobacco ^{(TRS: "Water")}