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Friend status?[edit]
- Discussion moved to the Battlestar Wiki:Wikipedian Quorum. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 22:44, 7 May 2006 (CDT)
Extension which would be really useful[edit]
Would it be possible to add the Show/Hide extension here? It will be useful to have an 'edit' control panel on the main page and also for showing and hiding possible spoilers? --Mercifull 08:45, 9 May 2006 (CDT)
- One problem with this ext. Javascript. To find all "normal" users with javascript enabled would be like a good thing. It also creates my favorite issue of not fullfilling it's "job" as if something like that is placed at the bottom of the page, you would still have to scroll down to read more text. --Shane (T - C - E) 10:57, 9 May 2006 (CDT)
- Surely javascript is _already_ in use here to work the current show/hide used for the contents box --Mercifull 11:35, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
- It is, AFAIK. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 12:46, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
- So this extension wouldnt make any difference to anyone than it already does. --Mercifull 12:54, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
- That seems to be about right, from what I know anyway. Maybe Shane knows something I don't... -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 12:57, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
- So this extension wouldnt make any difference to anyone than it already does. --Mercifull 12:54, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
- It is, AFAIK. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 12:46, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
- Surely javascript is _already_ in use here to work the current show/hide used for the contents box --Mercifull 11:35, 10 May 2006 (CDT)
german episode list does not work any more[edit]
Hallo,
- 1)
We have a german episode list. It is installed under all german episodes. It is at present the only instrument we have for the fast episode navigation and thus the most important. http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Vorlage:Episodenliste Now it does not work any more. I do not know about the technical stuff. I am working here only as a translator. Could you please look for the german episode list and make it run?
- 2)
I began her as an IP. Now this is not possible any more. I am quite shure, that I never had began here as a translator, if I could not do this as an IP. At present we are only three active members in the german section. Would it not be better, to allow the IP editing, to get more people there. I have established a link to the german battlestar wiki in the german wikipedia battlestar article. I think, if an IP editing would be possible, we could get more people to work there.
Thank you for your attention.
- Tirkon 11:29, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- Tirkon: I'll take a look at the episode list, it's likely a simple issue. As for the IP address... I'll consider lowering the block on anonymous editing, if it spurs up valid contributors. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:58, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- Odd, it seems to work now... Where exactly doesn't it work, may I ask? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 16:41, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- on http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Vorlage:Episodenliste itself and on http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Hauptseite (Link Template:Episodenliste) ... There also is a second problem, which is not present on wikipedia: If I click to "compare two versions", it does not show me the differences, but it wants me to download an "index.php" -- Tirkon 17:27, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- It's working for me as well (on both the main page and from the template (vorlage) page itself. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.3. The diff function (compare two versions) also seems to be up. However, Joe and I are both running English-native settings for OS and browser... perhaps there's something to do with i18n at one of those levels? --Steelviper 21:08, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- Joe and Steelviper, thank you very much for your help. :o) I tried german firefox and everyting is O.K. But it does not work (for me) on german Internet Explorer (new version), while on original Wikipedia it is O.K. I will use Firefox for the further translations. Thanx for this hint. -- Tirkon 21:51, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- It's working for me as well (on both the main page and from the template (vorlage) page itself. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.3. The diff function (compare two versions) also seems to be up. However, Joe and I are both running English-native settings for OS and browser... perhaps there's something to do with i18n at one of those levels? --Steelviper 21:08, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- on http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Vorlage:Episodenliste itself and on http://www.battlestarwiki.org/de/w/Hauptseite (Link Template:Episodenliste) ... There also is a second problem, which is not present on wikipedia: If I click to "compare two versions", it does not show me the differences, but it wants me to download an "index.php" -- Tirkon 17:27, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- Odd, it seems to work now... Where exactly doesn't it work, may I ask? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 16:41, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
wikipedia Battlestar template for german users[edit]
Hallo, I have a further question. This template in the german wikipedia links to the english Battlestar Wiki. How could it be changed to link to the german Battlestar Wiki? http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vorlage:User_Battlestar_Wiki
Thank you -- Tirkon 17:37, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- Thanx, it runs well now. -- Tirkon 21:50, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- A further question: I need the picture for this template. As far as I know, the upload of pics to german wikipedia shsll be disabled in near futur and it is strongly recommended, to uploded to commons. This also would it make easyer for other international Battlestarwiki users, to use the pic. Because you are the copyrighter, I would beg you to do so with the matching licence and then please tell me the link. Thank you -- Tirkon 22:16, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
- Funny, the link to the template was just deleted from my german wikipedia user page. After that the template was deleted from official german wikipedia. An administrator reproved me, not to use "such" templates in the official german wikipedia (without explaining, what "such" is). I should only host it on my personally side, where it was moved to now. Seems, as if german wikipedia administrators are much stronger. -- Tirkon 22:48, 13 May 2006 (CDT)
Favicon[edit]
Joe... I'm not sure when you did it, but the new favicon appears... garbled in my Firefox. I think it's because of the image scaling. I'm guessing that it's just the logo shrunk down way. Personally, I think such a small picture should be MUCH simpler. Just thought I'd weigh in on that. I'm not demanding a change or anything, just piping up. --Day (Talk - Admin) 00:27, 14 May 2006 (CDT)
Persimmons?[edit]
I would like to ask your permission to use your likeness (from the image for your user page) in a project I'm working on. It's just a little banner I'm putting together for the Galactica BS fan art forum (not going to be on the front page of anything, just in a post or two (if the original ends up being quoted). I'm actually done with yours but posting it once is as good as publishing in these days of caching, so before I even posted a preview of it to photobucket I wanted to clear it with you. I just used your pic as is, with some minor changes in scaling, rotation, and shadow. I'm not 100% done with it, but it's looking pretty good. I'd rather not spoil the "surprise" of what exactly I'm doing until closer to unveiling, but I could promise a preview before it is "published" (aka posted into my fan art thread). Just drop a note here (or on my talk, or email, or whatever) letting me know. --Steelviper 14:49, 16 May 2006 (CDT)
- Sure. Hack away. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 21:24, 16 May 2006 (CDT)
- Preview has been sent to your gmail account. --Steelviper 14:25, 18 May 2006 (CDT)
Bot[edit]
I am ready to test the bot again. See if runs under the bot name. If it does, we can set it to auto run every 3 or 6hours. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:06, 7 June 2006 (CDT)
RFC[edit]
Joe, I figure you've got the paged Watched or whatever, but I thought I'd draw your eye, anyway. I'd very much like to hear what you're thinking regarding this RFC. I know that, due to the way it's been edited, the page is somewhat confusing to read, but I feel this needs the attention of the full body of administrators. --Day (Talk - Admin) 21:47, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
- I'm working on a response now. I just want to make sure that my position (and possible solution) is clear, since the page does seem to be confusing due to its choppy flow. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 22:08, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
- Joe, if possible, can you please contact me via GTalk before you post? --April Arcus 22:14, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
Email Validation (2)[edit]
Earlier i posted to your talk page about the problems I was having with email validation. Well I kinda forgot about it for a while but the issue has cropped up again now I am an administrator of thw wiki. I posted more details about it to the Admins noticeboard. The email address that i am trying to validate is mattsims@evilmerc.com Cheers --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 15:08, 1 July 2006 (CDT)
- Maybe some experimentation could be done over at the hangarbay to try to troubleshoot this? --Steelviper 12:19, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
MediaWiki 1.7.1[edit]
It's out. One thing: PHP 5 upgrade needed. So it's up to you. :) --Shane (T - C - E) 18:30, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
- Thanks Shane! I'll read more on it later. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 18:40, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
Wikipedia[edit]
Someone just slamed your Wikipedia talk page.... --Shane (T - C - E) 20:53, 17 July 2006 (CDT)
Subpages + Bot[edit]
Well.. I noticed something. Subpages for the User, Battlestar Wiki talk, and possaible some other namespaces. Maybe just turn them all on so it works as used. See Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp and Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp/Temp1 for examples. I can also work on the task bot if Perl is complied into PHP. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:15, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
- The bot might be ready to run again. I uploaded a whole bunch of fixes to the file. Post any errors to my email. Run it using perl taskbot.pl OPENTASK_UPDATE --Shane (T - C - E) 13:21, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
- No idea where to put this, but maybe the trusted group could get Patrol status. Patrol is just something to watch mark changes that they were seen. --Shane (T - C - E) 16:00, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
- UPDATE: http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0 - Bot is working. :) Now it just needs to be added to the cron to run every 4 or 6 hours.
RFA[edit]
I accepted my RFA nomination; can you put up one of those "current event" banners on top of the site? Also, I've noticed that since the wiki media change, when we search for something that doesn't exist, instead of that hi-larious "Man Created the Cylons, He Did Not Create An Article With This Title" page doesn't appear anymore; can that come back? Thanks. --The Merovingian (C - E) 18:45, 30 July 2006 (CDT)
- I don't think that's necessary... I'll work on the other problem though. Thanks. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 11:17, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
Feel Better[edit]
Drink lots of water and have chicken soup. :) --Shane (T - C - E) 12:23, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- Thanks Shane! :-) Honestly, I find gatorade works better, at least for me. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate
- 0_o Gatorade? That's a new one. I would think Gatorade be bad because of the suger content to keep the virus alive. --Shane (T - C - E) 12:47, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- Electrolytes would be the big selling point on Gatorade. Pedialyte is also a common solution (though, obviously more with younger patients). The carbs would mean more blood sugar (and therefore energy). Not sure the effect on viruses. No more than taking in any other form of nutrition, I suspect. --Steelviper 13:22, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- Do you have lucozade across the pond? --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 13:15, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- 0_o Gatorade? That's a new one. I would think Gatorade be bad because of the suger content to keep the virus alive. --Shane (T - C - E) 12:47, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
A cold?! Hm. Sounds like our current Mop Boy hasn't used the disinfectant in the mop water...take care of yourself, Joe. We'll keep it all running along here; at least you're not ill during an new episode run. --Spencerian 14:21, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- It was sabotage i swear! I saw you by the bucket as i was coming back from doing a wee! --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 14:26, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- This has got to be some serious cold. :-x --Shane (T - C - E) 14:28, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
- I've recovered from the cold, mostly. I just have the back spasms i have to deal with. Basically, I've been taking muscle relaxants and Aleve, so I can move just as fast as a hare... :-( -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 09:29, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
- This has got to be some serious cold. :-x --Shane (T - C - E) 14:28, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
Setting up a mirror[edit]
MediaBlvd would like to offer up some of our server space and bandwidth as a mirror, if that would be useful. Great job here, all involved.
NetRanger 22:38, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- Thanks for the offer! I'll try to get in contact with you in the next few days to iron out details. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 09:30, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
- Side note... we should really setup this also joe.
- www.battlestar.org (Splash Page)
- en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (english)
- de.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (german)
- es.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (spanish)
- hb.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (Test Wiki)
- media-0.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Our Inital Media Resository)
- Interactive Files (Images)
- media-1.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Could Be Net Ranger's Server, but out link)
- Interactive Files (Video, Sound, and Images)
...and all sharing the same user databases.... so we didn't have to create usersnames for everyone. We move all the images to the File Repositories. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:52, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
Good News/Bad News[edit]
Doing some work on the MediaWiki talk:Edittools markup, I was trying to figure out why the markup was always driving us crazy. It was because of the current skin js code. So let me break this down more...
- Good News: The javascript code barily works with 1.7.1
- Bad News: For it to get fully working correctly, one of the classic skins needs to be enabled.
So... I'm a digging in the hangerbay and working on my CSS code and update the Hangerbay with 1.7.1 and also fix up my two skins with the new javascript. That's about it. :-) --Shane (T - C - E) 14:32, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
- Also need a quick run on the
maintenance/update.php
on the hangerbay so it's to date with 1.7.1
For discussions previously on User talk: Joe.Beaudoin, please click here.
- Archive from March 6, 2006
- Archive from April 20, 2006
- Archive from August 6, 2006
Favicon[edit]
Joe... I'm not sure when you did it, but the new favicon appears... garbled in my Firefox. I think it's because of the image scaling. I'm guessing that it's just the logo shrunk down way. Personally, I think such a small picture should be MUCH simpler. Just thought I'd weigh in on that. I'm not demanding a change or anything, just piping up. --Day (Talk - Admin) 00:27, 14 May 2006 (CDT)
Email Validation (2)[edit]
Earlier i posted to your talk page about the problems I was having with email validation. Well I kinda forgot about it for a while but the issue has cropped up again now I am an administrator of thw wiki. I posted more details about it to the Admins noticeboard. The email address that i am trying to validate is mattsims@evilmerc.com Cheers --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 15:08, 1 July 2006 (CDT)
- Maybe some experimentation could be done over at the hangarbay to try to troubleshoot this? --Steelviper 12:19, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
Subpages + Bot[edit]
Well.. I noticed something. Subpages for the User, Battlestar Wiki talk, and possaible some other namespaces. Maybe just turn them all on so it works as used. See Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp and Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp/Temp1 for examples. I can also work on the task bot if Perl is complied into PHP. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:15, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
- The bot might be ready to run again. I uploaded a whole bunch of fixes to the file. Post any errors to my email. Run it using perl taskbot.pl OPENTASK_UPDATE --Shane (T - C - E) 13:21, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
- No idea where to put this, but maybe the trusted group could get Patrol status. Patrol is just something to watch mark changes that they were seen. --Shane (T - C - E) 16:00, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
- UPDATE: http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0 - Bot is working. :) Now it just needs to be added to the cron to run every 4 or 6 hours.
Joe, can you try running the bot. Wondering if you get the same error I get. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:27, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
- Sure. Testing now. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 14:54, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
- Just for the sake, I don't think it will work. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:58, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
- I can't do it right now for some reason anyway... Odd. I'll look into it after I get some things out of the way. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:07, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
- Just for the sake, I don't think it will work. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:58, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
Setting up a mirror[edit]
MediaBlvd would like to offer up some of our server space and bandwidth as a mirror, if that would be useful. Great job here, all involved.
NetRanger 22:38, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
- Thanks for the offer! I'll try to get in contact with you in the next few days to iron out details. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 09:30, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
- Side note... we should really setup this also joe.
- www.battlestar.org (Splash Page)
- en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (english)
- de.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (german)
- es.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (spanish)
- hb.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (Test Wiki)
- media-0.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Our Inital Media Resository)
- Interactive Files (Images)
- media-1.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Could Be Net Ranger's Server, but out link)
- Interactive Files (Video, Sound, and Images)
...and all sharing the same user databases.... so we didn't have to create usersnames for everyone. We move all the images to the File Repositories. --Shane (T - C - E) 14:52, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
Good News/Bad News[edit]
Doing some work on the MediaWiki talk:Edittools markup, I was trying to figure out why the markup was always driving us crazy. It was because of the current skin js code. So let me break this down more...
- Good News: The javascript code barily works with 1.7.1
- Bad News: For it to get fully working correctly, one of the classic skins needs to be enabled.
So... I'm a digging in the hangerbay and working on my CSS code and update the Hangerbay with 1.7.1 and also fix up my two skins with the new javascript. That's about it. :-) --Shane (T - C - E) 14:32, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
- Also need a quick run on the
maintenance/update.php
on the hangerbay so it's to date with 1.7.1
Domain Registrar[edit]
The domain registrar I use is www.namecheap.com and it $8.88 per domain per year. You can also pay via paypal. I am still in discussions with some people about hosting but I think that I can definitly save the wiki hundreds off the bill. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 02:45, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Awesome. As they say, a penny saved is a penny earned, and all that... :-) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 02:51, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Doubt they came up with that saying. :D --Shane (T - C - E) 02:52, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Well, we don't know who exactly "they" are... "they" can be anybody. LOL -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:01, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Who is this "they", it seems "they" make all the decisions in the world and watch over us in a 1984 esqe secret society. I'm scared :( --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 03:32, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Actually, thought Ben Franklin came up with that. Is he watching is ;-)? --FrankieG 07:48, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Who is this "they", it seems "they" make all the decisions in the world and watch over us in a 1984 esqe secret society. I'm scared :( --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 03:32, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Well, we don't know who exactly "they" are... "they" can be anybody. LOL -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:01, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- Doubt they came up with that saying. :D --Shane (T - C - E) 02:52, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
I wrote an update. It's so ugly and disasterous that I protected it, made it a silly page, and desperately ask other admins to help in making it usable. --Spencerian 22:14, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
- LOL. Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 14:59, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
DNS Prob[edit]
Did you contact 1and1? It's gotta be a DNS problem that not working. --Shane (T - C - E) 15:04, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
- I'll contact them (AceWebHosting) tonight. Been running around like a chicken with its head cut off for the past two days. lol -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:07, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
- I know how you feel. --Shane (T - C - E) 15:22, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
- Updates? --Shane (T - C - E) 11:02, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
- They said that it "is because your DNS zone is hosted on our name servers and when you add subdomains, those subdomain cannot be added to our nameservers. We've configured your DNS zone to resolve all subdomains to [IP address], it should fix this problem." So hopefully once everything propagates, it should work. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 11:39, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
- Interesting. I would think that would happen by default. lol. Ok... I will keep checking the subdomain. --Shane (T - C - E) 11:56, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
- Yes. But I don't think it's working though... I'll contact them again. Perhaps it's something else... Sigh. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 14:51, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
- Interesting. I would think that would happen by default. lol. Ok... I will keep checking the subdomain. --Shane (T - C - E) 11:56, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
- They said that it "is because your DNS zone is hosted on our name servers and when you add subdomains, those subdomain cannot be added to our nameservers. We've configured your DNS zone to resolve all subdomains to [IP address], it should fix this problem." So hopefully once everything propagates, it should work. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 11:39, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
- Working. 500server error... it might be the .htaccess file so delete it once you get a chance. --Shane (T - C - E) 12:31, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
- Yes, I just woke up from my nap. Anyway, I fixed what happened. Apparently, it had to do with the nameservers I was using; I was using 1and1s nameservers (because I host my domains through 1and1, not AceWebHosting, which hosts BSG Wiki) and had to create a Glue Domain using the nameservers ns1.battlestarwiki.org and ns2.battlestarwiki.org. Fortunatley, it now works and I just have to go through .htaccess and see what's up. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 14:56, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
- Updates? --Shane (T - C - E) 11:02, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
- I know how you feel. --Shane (T - C - E) 15:22, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
Rewrite Rule[edit]
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/misc/rewriteguide.html - From Our Wikipedia Vandalism Squad --Shane (T - C - E) 19:56, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
RewriteRule ^wiki/?(.*)$ /mediawiki/index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]
was right. We forgot to restart Apache. --Shane (T - C - E) 20:28, 18 August 2006 (CDT)- Bah, I knew I forgot something. I now remember doing this when I set up the other language wikis. Frak me. I'll get to it tomorrow. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 21:53, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
"Style"[edit]
I see that it is working now! What did you to fix it? Anyway, I sent you a quick update the LocalSettings.php file and the ZIP file containing the "hangerbay" style sheets. Follow the instructions in the email and everything should be set. Right now the skin that it set to is not found so I have no idea how you want to proceed. If you send me the style files for this style we are using now, I can edit the CSS file so everything can be unified and done only by CSS. It's both the "MediaWiki" color version and our colors version. Next time we are online. I guess we can work on transferring the images. --Shane (T - C - E) 17:11, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
- I restarted the server. I also had to remove the redirect rules in .htaccess, since they didn't work anyway. Other than that, everything looks good. I figure the best way to move all the images would be to just copy the pertinent tables from the en-wiki database and the corresponding image directories. Then we should be good. (Also, I've found out that unifying the username databases is next to impossible under the current MediaWiki software, which is why all the Wikipedia sites don't have a unifying logon yet.) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 17:35, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
- I also didn't get the files yet, either. Then again, I can always just copy the style files from the hangarbay. (I'll also be sending along the CSS the current scheme to you shortly.) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 17:36, 19 August 2006 (CDT)