Battlestar Wiki talk:Characters

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Previous discussions:

• Archive 1 (August 31st, 2005 to Present):

Naming, Verb Tense, Intro Paragraph?, Non-Canon Names, Layout in Humano-Cylon Articles

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Layout in Human Articles

Biography vs. Biographical Notes

So... Do we make the first section Biography or Biographical Notes? The project page says "Biographical Notes" right now, but I just picked on arbitrarily when I typed that out. So if someone actually has an opinion, change the project page, maybe make it bold for noticibility, then we'll have to go through and police the articles for that while we're out doing all this formatting and picture-adding and template-fixing. --Day 17:10, 2 September 2005 (EDT)

Since many articles already have a "Notes" section, I think "Biography" reads best. --Peter Farago 19:53, 2 September 2005 (EDT)

Might Be a Cylon

This topic cmae up in another thread entirely, so here's a place where talking about it is on-topic. I think we should shy away from having too many <soandso>-is-a-Cylon theories on character pages. If some character has been cast in a questionable light intentionally by the show or has some discussion that has merit (i.e. the "theory" is not simply that it remains unprooven that so-and-so is actually human), then by all means, we should have a few paragraphs at the end, citing evidence with show links and quotes, etc. I also think it would be worth creating a Category for people who've been proven to be Human and who've been shown to be Humano-Cylons. Thoughts? --Day 22:15, 12 September 2005 (EDT)

Sounds good. I'm just curious... RDM has carefully (and brilliantly) set up a situation that allows for the exposure of Humano-Cylons but somewhat precludes the possibility of confirming whether a character is genuinely human. It would indeed be gratifying to check off favorite characters from a list of possible Toasters, but I'm not sure how we could establish with certainty (without an explicit reveal by RDM) that Adama or Roslin or Dualla or whoever is flesh and blood. --Watcher 22:10, 10 October 2005 (EDT)

Fixing Name Links

If you want to make sure that a given no-longer-used name article is not linked, I've discovered a neat trick to hunt out the old links. Go to this URL:

http://battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere/Adama,_Lee

Except replace "Adama,_Lee" with whatever it is you want to check up on. Then you go down that page's list of articles and fix 'em. This way, you don't have to much about with trying to get a redirect-page to not redirect so you can click on the "What links here" link. Should we keep a list of all this? It would be quite spammy. --Day 17:30, 15 September 2005 (EDT)

On further thought, let me be a bit more explicit. Each name on the list would have to have the following in formation:

• Kara Thrace: Thrace, Kara, Kara, Thrace, Starbuck
  

So the list couldn't be done horizontally. It would have to be a vertical list of every character we have, and a horizontal list of any possible aliases they have which might be used as links in articles. Boo. --Day 17:56, 15 September 2005 (EDT)

No. This is easy to see by clicking on the "What links here" link on the left-hand side of the monobook skin. If you get that information on a page with redirects, those are also listed. --Peter Farago 20:56, 15 September 2005 (EDT)

Er... Yes. That's how I got the URL in the first place. But we don't want anything to link to, say, Thrace, Kara. At least, Jow asked that we not do that. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I think you missed my point. --Day 01:52, 16 September 2005 (EDT)

Image Discussion

Flyboy

I don't think Valley of Darkness will help get a better picture, actually. It's so dark the whole time and most of his good screen time (right before he dies) all of the characters are pointing their lights away from themselves (and at the camera sometimes). I'll leave his entry the way it is, though, in case someone else thinks they can sneak a good frame. --Day 16:16, 23 September 2005 (EDT)

I tried getting an image as well, and I agree that the lighting conditions are too poor to get an adequate screenshot. Perhaps when the DVDs come out, we may get a better quality image... -- Joe Beaudoin 16:23, 23 September 2005 (EDT)

Nelena/Helena Cain

Okay. So, according to this, Cain's name is Helena, not Nelena. The former seems like a much more, well, reasonable first name, but it could be a typo or whatever. Anyone know where we got Nelena from? --Day 16:43, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

Copying to Talk:Nelena Cain --Peter Farago 16:45, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

More on Non-Canon Names

Someone needs to figure out who Layne, Ishay, and Kim are, and which is which. The current state of affairs is very confusing.

In which episode was Galen Tyrol's first name mentioned on screen? --Peter Farago 17:22, 27 September 2005 (EDT)

Number Six Notes Ambiguity

Hey, there. I condensed the Notes in the Number Six article since (1) there was only one item in each note, (2) the information there was trivial and not plot-related, and (3) there were three distinctive Notes...which wrecks sub-article referencing, such as Number Six#Notes as it cannot distinguish the last Notes subhead from the first two. I understand the advantage of separation there, but either each Note subarticle must have a unique name (such as "Notes about Gina") or they should be condensed into a single Notes item, unless there is a wiki way of doing it that I can grasp. Spencerian 12:11, 10 October 2005 (EDT)

It is possible to make section links disambiguate between two sections with the same name - see Wikipedia:Section#Section_linking. (Examples: Notes on Shelly Godfrey, Notes on Gina, Notes on Model Six) --Peter Farago 18:32, 10 October 2005 (EDT)

With a sip of coffee, I think I understood that...so the numerical count is the diambiguator where the article finds the next item named "Notes"? OK. That works for me. It still leaves the article a bit ugly in my mind, but if the collective says OK, then I'll stick with it. Spencerian 19:58, 10 October 2005 (EDT)

I agree that it leaves something to be desired. If you think of something better, let us know. --Peter Farago 21:35, 10 October 2005 (EDT)

Galactica 1980 definition:  Dillon looks up this term after Jamie Hamilton orders a coffee at a diner, upon their return to 1980 Earth (1980: "Galactica Discovers Earth, Part III").