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8) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 06:01, 16 May 2007 (CDT)

Sanfam contact thread

I posted a question over at tgm. I only left this here as it is likely that it'll trigger an email. --Steelviper 16:09, 19 May 2007 (CDT)

Pipe sign

You don't need to do <nowiki>|</nowiki>, {{!}} does the trick. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 14:29, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Ah... Forgot about that. Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 14:30, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Lushina.com

An online friend of mine started a link directory at Lushina.com. Submission is free, so maybe Battlestar and Sanctuary Wiki can go there? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 07:54, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

Worth a try. Thanks! :-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 09:33, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

Interesting site but do people still use link directories any more? --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 11:43, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

No idea. Can't hurt, though. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:37, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

With Google around, not really. However, as Catrope said, it doesn't hurt to get listed. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 20:58, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

Polish Wiki

Hello, I'm interested in set up the Polish version of BSG Wiki. Translating first article and gathering the crew is in progress. :) But I have several questions to you. 1. How it is with links in articles, that is being translating? For example if I have a link to "Water" episode, do I should change it to link to the "Water/pl: Woda", even if that article isn't existing yet? 2. Spoilers. I don't really know, how to solve this issue. To be honest, no BSG episode has been aired in Polish TV yet. We have been watching it in foreing channels. So how should I treat the spoilers? What informations are spoiler informations? All? None? This is all for now. Hope my Engilsh is good enough to be understood by you. :) --Glizda 04:22, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

I can help with this.... right now in order to have the basic "things" (plus here) need for your own wiki to function. We can take the "pl" files here on the and important them into the pl namespace... pl.battlestarwiki.org. They way you would link a pl.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Woda with en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Water is add [[en:Water]] to the bottom of the "Woda" page as explained in the BW:SAC and BW:INTER. Then the interwiki bot maintains the links on all the wikis so everything is cross-referenced. Spoiler information is then BASED off the English wiki if it doesn't "Air" per say in Poland. Any questions? Hope this helps. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 05:50, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Thank you for these informations. But, if you don't mind, I have one more question. If I want to create Polish article about "Water" episode I should name this article "Water/pl: Woda", yes? And when Polish Wiki will be created this article appear there automatically and it will be named "Woda"? Correct me, if I've understood wrong. --Glizda 10:50, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Correct. For now do it here on the sub-page and I will move it later on the Polish wiki and we will rename it to just "Woda". Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 18:02, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Nested collapsible tables fix

Nested collapsible tables don't seem to work very well (example). I've written a fix which makes nested coll. tables possible at User:Catrope/bsgbook.js. To implement this site-wide, you need to find the collapseTable() function (it's somewhere in a .js file, although I have no idea where exactly) and replace:

 function collapseTable( tableIndex )
 {
     var Button = document.getElementById( "collapseButton" + tableIndex );
     var Table = document.getElementById( "collapsibleTable" + tableIndex );
 
     if ( !Table || !Button ) {
         return false;
     }
 
     var Rows = Table.getElementsByTagName( "tr" ); 
 
     if ( Button.firstChild.data == collapseCaption ) {
         for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
             Rows[i].style.display = "none";
         }
         Button.firstChild.data = expandCaption;
     } else {
         for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
             Rows[i].style.display = Rows[0].style.display;
         }
         Button.firstChild.data = collapseCaption;
     }
 }

with:

 function collapseTable( tableIndex )
 {
     var Button = document.getElementById( "collapseButton" + tableIndex );
     var Table = document.getElementById( "collapsibleTable" + tableIndex );
 
     if ( !Table || !Button ) {
         return false;
     }
 
     var Rows = Table.getElementsByTagName( "tr" ); 
 
     if ( Button.firstChild.data == collapseCaption ) {
         for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
             if(Rows[i].parentNode.parentNode.id == ("collapsibleTable" + tableIndex))
             {
                 Rows[i].style.display = "none";
             }
         }
         Button.firstChild.data = expandCaption;
     } else {
         for ( var i = 1; i < Rows.length; i++ ) {
             if(Rows[i].parentNode.parentNode.id == ("collapsibleTable" + tableIndex))
             {
                 Rows[i].style.display = Rows[0].style.display;
             }
         }
         Button.firstChild.data = collapseCaption;
     }
 }

If you think this code may break anything, add

import_external('User:Catrope/bsgbook.js');

to User:Joe Beaudoin Jr./bsgbook.js and try it out. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 11:15, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Cool, I'll get it implemented sometime later tonight, after I get off work. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 11:20, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

When you've done that, would you please delete User:Catrope/bsgbook.js? TIA --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 12:34, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Apparently someone beat me to deleting your bsgbook.js. Anyway, the file in question is "common.js", and the site-wide one can be found at MediaWiki:common.js. (As one would anticipate, it is protected.) I did update it, but there seems to be an issue with it, at least on my end... See the talk page of the Think Tank in question. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 23:46, 7 June 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, Spence deleted my page before you got the chance. I think your problem is that you have to do a hard refresh on the talk page: Shift+Reload button in Firefox 2.0. I did that and it works for me now. BTW, I also informed the official maintainer of the collapsible tables JS of my fix (coincidentally, he's Dutch too), and he said he'd verify it and merge it into the main branch when he gets back from his vacation. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 02:35, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

Deleted redirects

I noticed you deleted 401 and 4.01, while I intended for 403 and 4.03 to be deleted. The nastyness here is that when you click the "Article" button on a redirect's talk page, it'll go to the redirect target (rather than the redirect itself). So please delete 401 and 4.01 and restore 403 and 4.03. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 15:49, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Where should 403 go then? He That Believath in Me? -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:02, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Ok, so I've redirected 403 and 4.03 to He That Believath In Me... The issue is, however, we don't seem to have an official production number for that episode. (From the comments I've read so far, it seems that the Razor is considered a part of Season 4 and may just be episodes "401" and "402". -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:08, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, I just noted that on the Razor talk page. The movie is 4.01 and 4.02. But that's production numbers. When people say "first episode of Season 4" they probably mean "He That Believeth In Me". Anyways, this also needs to be corrected in the episode data templates, unless those aren't meant for production numbers. ARG! Confusion --Serenity 16:11, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

Don't the TV magazines list the episode number? If that is the case, we'd better just delete the 4?? and 4.?? redirects and wait until January for HTBIM's episode number. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 06:31, 12 June 2007 (CDT)

A "Welcome Bot"

I was looking around, and I found this: http://botwiki.sno.cc/wiki/Python:Welcome.py Should we create? Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 07:08, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

While I'm usually all about saving time, it seems to me that there's some value to a personal greeting. When someone went to thank the bot for their welcome, the feeling of camaraderie may be... reduced. --Steelviper 08:36, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

A welcome bot doesn't seem very useful for me: we usually manage to welcome new users quite fast (sometimes even within 5 minutes of registration). The upside of the welcome bot is that it can automatically block disallowed usernames, which is quite useful. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 09:55, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

I'm going to echo SV's statement here: I feel that users should be proactive in welcoming users, since it's an "icebreaker" of sorts. Also, we don't have a problem with welcoming users; as Catrope indicated, we welcome users fairly quickly, which is nothing short of awesome, in my book. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:13, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

Ditto. I'm happy how the process has matured over the years when I got into the swing of doing them...it's nice and personal, unlike a Cylon. :) --Spencerian 16:35, 13 June 2007 (CDT)

Aye. You mentioned it once... Just wanted you to know :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 07:22, 14 June 2007 (CDT)

You should..

Restore all your old chats and have the bot archive'em. :D Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 21:35, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Should I do them as subpages or merely copy and paste all of them into my talk page? -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 21:41, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Copy them in order on this page and the bot will do it automatically. Sub-pages would be bad. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 21:52, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

That figures. LOL -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 21:54, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Fire the "laser", Dr. Evil. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 22:01, 16 June 2007 (CDT)

Fire the "laser" is now working on your talk page. Lower case "k" is different from upper-case "K". 6 archives created. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 12:33, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

Heh. Go figure. Thanks Shane! -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 22:47, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

The bot author was trying to figure out also why 146 archives were in the queue to be made. It was so crazy, I was going to flip out. lol. But in the end, simple error is to blame. :D Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 22:58, 17 June 2007 (CDT)

Re-imagined Series definition: Battlestar Group ^{(TRS: "Water")}. It also doubles as an acronym for the television series itself.

Re-imagined Series definition: initial skills training; can refer to basic military indoctrination, and arms and ground training ^{(TRS: "Fragged")}; and basic flight training ^{(TRS: "Miniseries")}