Talk:The Hub/Archive 1

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Picture

Where is it from? Are there more? -- Noneofyourbusiness 20:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

http://www.bsg.cz/4-09-hub-promofotky-3 -- Serenity 20:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I wonder why there are none for Sine Qua Non so far. -- Noneofyourbusiness 23:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone identify the gun Cavil is holding there? OTW 14:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Looks like a Walther PPK actually...the shape of it is a dead giveaway. -- Fordsierra4x4 09:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe we should change the picture; unless I missed it (which seems unlikely, as I pay extra attention when Cavil's on screen), that scene didn't make the final cut of the episode. Something from the episode would be nice: the Hub, D'Anna, maybe even Elosha. Alpha5099 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Read my mind. :) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 03:40, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

The The

The SciFi website omits the preceeding "The" from the episode title. Just bringing it up because I'm of a lower class with no ability to move pages and the such. --Mars 11:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

"The Hub" was confirmed by Bradley Thompson, so I guess it's the correct title. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 15:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

NBC Universal's Media Village says "Hub", too, and they were right with the one-L "Traveled", too. "Hub" would be a painfully dull title, though. --Pedda 16:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

How did these two sites report "The Road Less Traveled"? With our without the "the"? In this case, it's obviously a Biblical quote and the "The" is clearly supposed to be there. And yeah, no one in their right mind would call an episode "Hub". --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 18:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

no one in their right mind would call an episode "Hub". – Eh... why not? –Sasoriza 03:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The episode is titled "The Hub"... we knew this months ago, thanks to our own source. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 03:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Teaser

I'm sure anyone who's seen this knows by now, but just in case... In the teaser from "Sine Qua Non", D'anna says something like "You didn't know you were one of the final five", then (spoiler; highlight)

Spoiler follows, highlight to read.
Laura Roslin is shown.

I avoid spoiler blogs & the like, so I don't know: Intentional, or too obvious? –Sasoriza 04:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

That could easily be some clever editing. As we saw in Sine Qua Non, the conversation between Tigh and Adama was much longer before Tigh hit Adama, but the preview made it look like Tigh hits him right after Adama asks him what he was thinking re: C-Six. There are no guarantees that those two share a scene in the episode, but we'll just have to wait and see. --Kevin W.^{•So say we all} 18:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Drawing anything from this is completely ridiculous. Promos are often very misleading. Sometimes deliberately, but often there just isn't the time to convey any real meaning. -- Serenity 18:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

IMO she's probably talking to Anders. -- Gordon Ecker 03:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think Anders is there. I think she's messing with Roslin. We know they share scenes. -- Noneofyourbusiness 04:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Anders ain't anywhere, it seems... Odd. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 03:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Callum Keith Rennie is in the episode

He appears right at the beginning, when everyone is still kind of hanging around the hybrid.

You're right. He doesn't have any lines though. Also, I'm pretty sure that's the same footage from the episode where they first jump away. I guess they couldn't get him for the episode, but he got credit for standing around he'd done already. I don't have the earlier episode on me right now. Can anyone confirm that is the same scene (and not a reshoot), and then we can update the details about CKR's absence. Alpha5099 02:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

The scenes are from "Guess What's Coming For Dinner?"... there's nothing new there. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 03:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Rebuilding the hub?

> Why do the Cylons have only one Resurrection Hub and the implied inability to build another? > Are the Cylons capable of building a new Hub, and if so, how long it would it take them?

My personal theory is - they can have more than one, and they can rebuild it, but it takes considerable time and resources, too much to have another one ready before the end of the war.

On the other hand - maybe it is possible to modify / reconfigure Res Ships to not require the Hub to coordinate them?

Lilianne Blaze 04:34, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe the reason the cylons cannot rebuild it, is because it was built by whoever pogrammed/created the humanoid cylons in the first place, and they just weren't implanted with the knowledge required (similar to the knowledge of the final five). This may be evidenced by the fact that the resurrection facilities share a different design "philosophy" than the rest of the cylon fleet. Raziel Anarki 15:17, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Airlocked?

How come this page wasn't kept airlocked until the British release date, but Sine Qua Non was kept airlocked until the American and Canadian release date? I thought the entire point was to keep the page locked down until the episode had been fully released. Doesn't this portray double standards? Otterstat 10:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

The episode was first released on Friday in America, not on Tuesday. (SciFi told SkyOne to not release the episode early... long story.) The point of locking down the pages is to prevent multiple people from bum-rushing the episode page after it had aired with edits, which degrades the performance of the wiki's server. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 13:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Aye I know, and the British release date has been pushed back to Tuesday, so the roles are exactly reversed - what I'm saying is that last week the page was locked until the episode had aired in America, but this week it was unlocked straight after it was aired in America despite not having been aired in Britain yet. I thought another reason it was airlocked until the episode had aired in both areas was: "Locking articles give everyone a chance to watch the episode before a wiki visit could spoil that." I'm just a bit confused as to why it's been un-locked prior to the episode being aired in Britain, is all. Edit: To follow on from this, does this mean it is okay in the future for me to un-airlock a page if it has been aired in Britain first but not America and Canada? Because that's basically what happened here... Otterstat 14:07, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Let me put it to you this way, just over half of our audience is American. The other half is oversees, with less than a quarter of that half being from the UK. We actually get a lot more traffic from Canada and Germany than we do the UK...

Further, we always airlocked the pages for the American airings, because that's when the Wiki is hardest hit... after US airings. Not UK airings. And, actually, "Sine Qua Non" proved that, because the traffic was more evenly distributed between the two air dates for that episode. You can see some of this statistical data for yourself here. Also, to answer your question, you don't have the permissions needed to lock our unlock pages; that's an ability only the chiefs have. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 22:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

psych!

Can we get Three's joke at Laura's expense in the Notable Dialogue section? I can't remember it word by word myself. OTW 21:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)`

There we go. What an amazing moment. If there's any problems with how I formatted it, feel free to tweak it. Alpha5099 23:49, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Deleted scene or misplaced promo image?

I don't remember seeing Cavil holding a gun or wearing a hat, and we have had production number related misunderstandings before. Do we know that this image is from The Hub (episode 9, production number 411) and not Sometimes a Great Notion (episode 11, production number 413)? -- Gordon Ecker 03:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not a mistake. This is not the first time that promo images from (later) deleted scenes were released. For example "Torn" had one or two with Doral, Boomer, Six and Hera in a church, and "A Measure of Salvation" had a scene with Thrace interrogating Leoben. They are on the DVDs and summarized here. We should chose a different picture, but the other promo pics for the episode aren't really any good. -- Serenity 12:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

I can grab something from the HD version... Any ideas? -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 15:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a wide shot of the Cylon and human pilots assembling? -- Serenity 08:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Accessing other's memories

• In the Analysis section there is this:

"....However, earlier in Season 1, Agathon somehow has access to Sharon "Boomer" Valerii's memories, but was never killed or resurrected in the Miniseries. There is no explanation for this, other than an inference that Cylons can share memories outside of the actual download and resurrection process; how Valerii was able to do this after leaving Caprica is unknown."

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It is right we never heard in the series how the then Caprica Sharon, now Sharon "Athena" Agathon, got a hold of Sharon "Boomer" Valerii's memories but I think it is not much of a leap to say that as a undercover infiltration agent Valerii was killed a number of times at regular intevals by the Cylons off screen probably during her shore leaves. Tyrol and Valerii had a torrid relation ship for a long while before the attack we know. Valerii had been stationed on Galactica for two years prior to the attack, that is plenty of time to kill her repeatedly. We have seen how the Cylons were blasé about death and resurrection. Remember how the Three in the bombed parking garage casually offered to Caprica Six to kill her because C-6 hand a broken leg? If they could do that then no big deal; just kill Boomer, her memories download in to the communal repository (as well as a new body) and send her off again thinking she was human. Meanwhile have the future Athena absorb somehow Boomer's memories. Now the question is how does a living Cylon absorb the downloaded memories is an unanswered question. In fact, I think I will put that up as a new question. Does Athena-or the Eight in The Hub-have to die first? Of course we will have to wait to see it in the series for these questions can be answered in canon. Hunter2005 06:04, 11 June 2008 (UTC)