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"The Eye of Jupiter" Marines

Does Gunnery Sgt. Mathias have a first name? Also, only the names of Fischer, Griggs and Varrick were in the close captions. What was the name of the third Marine mentioned in the scene with Starbuck and Dualla? It sounded something like Ditko, but I can't be sure. Ausir 16:05, 17 December 2006 (CST)

We met GUNNERY SERGEANT ERIN MATHIAS in Exodus Pt1. Sergeant Fischer's first name was Omar. We met him in "Scattered."

From "The Eye of Jupiter", 2nd Production Blue Pages (by Mark Verheiden):

DUALLA: Griggs, you and Varrick are going to establish a forward observation post here. Henick and Ditko will go here.

- Ngarenn 01:07, 22 December 2006 (CST)

That's awesome. I'll grant that the average fan probably doesn't even think about this stuff, but to us librarians, this stuff is pure gold. I was particularly happy to learn Fischer's name, especially as we were recently discovering that he had showed up more than we had realized (such as in the ring in "Unfinished Business", thanks to the plug that Tahmoh gave him in the podcast). Thanks! --Steelviper 07:50, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Which Three is She?

Hello, Mr. Thompson, I have a question which has been puzzling the fan community for most of Season 3:

Which Three is Menáge/Dream/Main Three?

Is she D'Anna Biers? Is she the one from Caprica (Rock-Three)? Are the 2 previous the same one and that's her? Once again, thank you for taking your time to answer our questions :) --Sauron18 16:05, 18 December 2006 (CST)

I don't have clearance for the Cylon Consciousness Tracking Database, but here's my opinion: The D'Anna that's doing all that downloading is the D'Anna from "Downloaded," the one who got bonked by Caprica Six. At that time, D'Anna Biers was still in the fleet. In early drafts of "Downloaded," we wrote a subplot that included Baltar conspiring with the reporter D'Anna Biers to steal Hera from the incubator. Time constraints forced us to drop that from the final show. We also assume that D'Anna Biers returned to the Cylon fold once they occupied New Caprica, and was possibly the same one Sharon shot in the vault. But that's speculation. Biers could also have vanished in the explosion of Cloud Nine. - Ngarenn 00:47, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Yeah, that's what I used to think, but then why would she have D'Anna's memories? I guess it's possible she shared a few memories for the sake of other Threes knowing the lay of the land of Galactica, especially since this one grew in importance and eventually became the lead Three. Thank you for your time, Mr. Thompson --Sauron18 01:46, 22 December 2006 (CST)

I'd say that she probably has the memories of both, just like Athena has the memories of Boomer. Ausir 16:18, 18 December 2006 (CST)

Athena has the memories of Boomer because these memories (up to the point the Cylons had them) were implanted into the Sharon tasked with impersonating Sharon Valerii in order to seduce Helo during Season 1. (As you know, this Sharon became Athena.) To our limitied knowledge, the Cylons don't generally share memories, although it's intriguing to contemplate how the various models can all make their opinions known to their spokesperson. Or to consider why Sharon said words to the effect that she hasn't accessed certain data (in "The Farm"), implying that she could if she chose to. - Ngarenn 01:21, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Yeah, Grace Park told us in an interview, from the Cylon "bible" that Cylons can choose to share their memories, but it is not an automatic process. --Sauron18 01:46, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Julia

Mr. Thompson, could you please confirm the surname of Kacey's mother? It's hard to tell if she says "I'm Julia Prynne, I'm Kacey's mom" or "I'm Julia Brenham, Kacey's mom". The credits list her only as Julia. -- Noneofyourbusiness 15:18, 21 December 2006 (CST)

In the 2nd Pink Production revision of "Torn," (by Anne Cofell Saunders) we see:

JULIA: Captain Thrace? I’m sorry... don’t you remember me? Julia Brynn. Kacey’s Mom?

Hope that helps. - Ngarenn 00:53, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Thanks. -- Noneofyourbusiness 13:23, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Cottle's first name

Since we're asking for characters' first names, does doctor Cottle have one already? Ausir 04:06, 22 December 2006 (CST)

He has a first and middle but we've never said it onscreen or published it in scripts. He said he'd thump us if we revealed it. - Ngarenn 14:31, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Use of the Wiki

Well... I think most of want to know this because everyone puts in time into the Wiki, but we were wondering if you (or the writers) look to the wiki (the question section in particular) as a guide to see what arc's have or haven't been completed in the "series". Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 22:52, 4 January 2007 (CST)

That's a nice question. We can't or shouldn't be a true "source" (that's a bit of a fanwank) but if help in pointing out writing gaffes that have been improved, or confirming unofficially that some of the fans "get it" (the overall storylines and characterizations) then it's a nice ego boost. --Spencerian 02:45, 5 January 2007 (CST)

And egos are always nice things to have boosted. --BklynBruzer 08:18, 5 January 2007 (CST)

I might use it to get a head start tracking down some plot point that I later confirm within the organization. Thanks guys. - Ngarenn 14:30, 25 January 2007 (CST)

I think all of the contributors would be happy to thank you, Ron, David, and everyone involved in the Battlestar Galactica sagas for giving us a show that's so wonderful to watch as well as to document. --Spencerian 22:42, 27 January 2007 (CST)

Dirty Hands

Can you confirm if "Dirty Hands" has been re-titled "Our Enemies, Ourselves"? --FrankieG 19:29, 12 January 2007 (CST)

"Our Enemies, Ourselves" was the original story for Episode 15, but as Michael Angeli's Ep 13 ("The Woman King") evolved, we found that it was working the same thematic ground as "Our Enemies," so we developed a different story, which became "Dirty Hands." - Ngarenn 14:28, 25 January 2007 (CST)

I really liked the title "Our Enemies, Ourselves" though. One of the best titles in the show so far IMO. --Serenity 06:08, 26 January 2007 (CST)

Why Did D'Anna Die?

Hello Mr.Thompson, there's been some debate and uncertainty about why exactly D'Anna died after seeing the Final Five? When she got bloody-nosed and foggy eyed and died....

Was it because she saw the Final Five? Or was it some sort of "kill signal" for all Threes in order to box them? Thank you for your time. --Sauron18 20:42, 23 January 2007 (CST)

To see god is to know madness. - Ngarenn 14:32, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Thanks :) --Sauron18 15:56, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Cavil's number

The closed captioning in Exodus, Part I said:

Number Two: This is three downloads for me.

Should this be regarded as a canonical confirmation that Cavil is in fact Number Two?

Nope. All it confirms is that this particular Brother Cavil's "consciousness" has been incarnated three times so far. - Ngarenn 14:35, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Thanks for the answer (and for many other answers on this page), I'll forward this to our Cavil-is-Number-Two discussion. --Catrope 14:45, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Battlestar Triton's BSG Number

Hello Mr. Thompson and other Battlestar crew, nice to be talking with you. I was just wondering what the Triton’s Battlestar Group number was? The image [1] of the Triton patch from Crashdown's profile page shows "Battlestar Triton - BSG-3*". I was just wondering, what was the second digit of the number? Is it BSG-33? Because if so that's pretty damn clever. Thank you for your time. --Kahran 19:22, 24 January 2007 (CST)

Kahran, I'm sorry to blow my omnipotent image here, but I don't know. I'll have to save your question for the costume department when (if) they come back for the next season. - Ngarenn 14:41, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Well, thank you anyway. Here's hoping for Season Four (and beyond!) --Kahran 16:54, 25 January 2007 (CST)

Kacey's real name

I've noticed that the actor who plays Kacey has been spelled two different ways in the end credits: Madeline Parker and Madeleine Parker (with an extra "e"). Assuming that these aren't twins, which spelling is correct? Thanks.

I'm also assuming that the director's name was misspelled for Torn. Jean de Segonzac has directed many shows and movies while there is no information on a Jean de Segoznac as the director's name was spelled in the onscreen credits. -- 123home123 19:23, 9 November 2006 (CST)

Sykes

There's a character in Rapture, named Sykes. I am pretty much absolutely certain he is played by Tygh Runyan (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0750353/). I had two questions. First, I just wanted confirmation on the name of the character and the actor. I've asked others, they agree with me it's the same guy. The other question is, is there more to Sykes? Tygh Runyan is a somewhat well known actor. He's appeared in several TV shows, and had a fairly prominent role in Snakes on a Plane. It seems odd that he'd be cast as just an extra. Did he have lines that were cut? Will he be appearing more? Thank you. Alpha5099 23:00, 25 January 2007 (CST)

That's ANOTHER Galactica person in SoaP! (Or SoaP person in Galactica if that's what you prefer) --BklynBruzer 06:43, 26 January 2007 (CST)

I know about Chuckles and one of the terrorists from Sacrifice. Is there anyone else? Alpha5099 10:03, 26 January 2007 (CST)

I think Sykes makes the 3rd. --BklynBruzer 14:24, 26 January 2007 (CST)

Cavil, Leoben, Simon model numbers

Is there a reason why we haven't got the model numbers yet for these three Cylons? Is it a story reason or is this something trivial that the writers have just never gotten around to revealing? I noticed a few websites refer to Cavil as Number Two based on closed captioning...is that an error? --Meteor 9:09 05 February 2007 (EST).

Closed captioning did call Cavil "Number Two", but Bradley Thompson stated elsewhere on this page that that's not canonical information, although he doesn't directly deny that Cavil is Number Two. I still wonder why we haven't got their numbers yet, though. --Catrope 08:46, 5 February 2007 (CST)

Yeah, it's been nagging at me lately. Unless model numbers do have some significance, there's no reason we shouldn't know the numbers. --BklynBruzer 09:00, 5 February 2007 (CST)

I'd like to point out that Cavil is called Number Two by the closed captioning of some televisions but not others. My captions don't say anything of the sort in the scene in question and some other people on message boards have confirmed that their captions don't either. As for why the model numbers aren't being revealed, my guess is that the writers don't actually care about them and haven't assigned them. -- Noneofyourbusiness 12:32, 12 February 2007 (CST)

I think that's the most logical theory we've heard in this discussion. --BklynBruzer 06:29, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Boxed Cylon Storage Room

Hello, Mr. Thompson

At the end of "Rapture" we see Cavils boxing Threes inside a large chamber, where they presumably leave the bodies after they're done boxing them. I am wondering, where is this room? Is it aboard each Resurrection Ship or is it in the Cylon Home World?

Originally, I thought it was in the Resurrection Ship, but the ship itself isn't that big, and it would make sense for the Cylons to pack up all the bodies and send them back to the homeworld, keeping the Three's in a buffer until they download them over there and box them. So now I'm wondering, is it in the Homeworld?

Thank you for your time --Sauron18 23:02, 13 February 2007 (CST)

This scene took place aboard the local resurrection ship. No doubt similar scenes happened wherever there were D'Anna's to box. - Ngarenn 21:07, 1 March 2007 (CST)

Thank You! --Sauron18 07:07, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Spelling of Ferdok root

The Saggitarons use this root as a calmative for the sick but how is it spelt? --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 03:37, 14 February 2007 (CST)

Mr. Angeli's script has it spelled "burdock root" - Ngarenn 21:09, 1 March 2007 (CST)

Thankyou for the clarification. Moved to burdock root. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 03:07, 2 March 2007 (CST)

Furdock root? The script may say burdock root, I am rather sure that I heard furdock root spoken by Aaron Douglass in the episode.

Burdock root, also called "Gobo", is a traditional Japanese and Chinese medicine for purification of blood and liver. Eating alot of it can cause one to break out in a sweat while sitting still. There seems to be furdock root in the RDM- a parallel to burdock root in our own? Clever.

maximilian333

... Dude did you just try to contradict Bradley freakin' Thompson, one of the show's producers?! I am speechless. --BklynBruzer 22:33, 7 March 2007 (CST)

Ha Ha ... No. You say botato.... I say fotato... I can see why my strong belief seems audacious, but I am rather certain of what I heard. The original article poster heard "Ferdock", as I did. Mr. Thompson graciously clarified that "Burdock" was actually written in the script. I take no issue with that, but with what I myself heard. The suggestion that Furdock may have been spoken on the set in no way contradicts Mr. Thompson's factual statement that "Burdock" was written in the script. I merely suggest that the script and the spoken dialogue on the set differ. This is not uncommon as issues are worked out on a set. Maybe this could have been done purposely to work around the plausability of two distant planets sharing the same fauna. Such a parallel would suggest some mysterious, ancient link to earth. Similarly, the colonies themselves are roughly similar to the names of the Zodiacs. This is the kind of attention to detail that deepens the production and enthralls us as fans. Perhaps Peter Farago or Aaron Douglass (Chief Tyrol|Galen Tyrol) will be inclined to clarify minutae like this for the rabid, discerning fanbase. We shouldn't care about this frakkin root, but as fanatics, we can't help it, can we? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maximilian333 (talk • contribs).

A few points. One, Aaron Douglas never mentioned the root, it was Dr. Michael Robert (Bruce Davison). Secondly, I was the contributor who originally started the article, and at the time there was background noise in the episode that somewhat fudged the sound. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 16:35, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

Just a thought, but Peter would be the one to go to in order to determine what was said on screen, since he has that know-how. If it is mispronounced on screen, I imagine we could note that, but keep the article under its current, confirmed spelling. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 08:11, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Huh. Sadgeezer's transcript of the episode says "burdock", for whatever that's worth. --Steelviper 08:18, 8 March 2007 (CST)

I'll run a spectrogram if you guys insist, but it seems pointless in light of Thompson's comment. --Peter Farago 13:39, 13 March 2007 (CDT)

Chief Tyrol & his 'Knuckledragger Crew', Will we see more?

The Dirty Hands episode was fantastic as it gave us a glimpse into the heart and soul of the crew/workers that have dedicated their lives to securing a future for all the survivors in the fleet. It was interesting to see an episode introducing some of the new faces involved in the 'Dirty Work'. It was very well written and acted and a pleasure to watch. Can we look forward to seeing more of Chief Tyrol and his main crew of 'Knuckledraggers' - Figurski, Pollux and Redford?

--Chillishake 14:08, 27 February 2007 (CST)

I'll pass your compliments to Jane and Anne. We've been wanting to see life in the fleet for a long time and we finally got to do it. We'll certainly see more of Tyrol and Figurski. I seem to remember Ep 16 introducing SP2 Sarah Ryan to the hangar deck (christened at the last minute and I'm not sure her name will reach the screen as I've given it here). How much? Depends upon the order for Season 4, which has been given a "go" but the number of episodes has yet to be determined. - Ngarenn 21:15, 1 March 2007 (CST)

SP2 = Specialist 2nd class? Could you tell us what the rank structure for the enlisted crew is? According to some, admittedly, old blog entry by RDM it goes somewhat different and we pieced it together here. And what is Figurski's rank/rating?

I expected to focus "Dirty Hands" to focus more on the deckhands, but it was great to get a look at a civilian ship too. And the guy with the prosthetic arm was a nice touch. --Serenity 05:46, 2 March 2007 (CST)