Template talk:Cast Data

• Archive 1 (March 19, 2006 to November 27, 2006):

Template reasoning, We don't need the image credit field..., Design of the Header,

Proposal for new fields to be added

• Nationality of actor/actress (including flag  UK)
• Date of birth
• Date of death (optional and mainly for TOS actors)
• Age (automaticly worked out by a formula by DOB etc?)

--Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 05:09, 28 November 2006 (CST)

I'm game. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 13:57, 28 November 2006 (CST)

I added the new parameters, is there a way of making it look a bit neater on the pages though? as you can see here the text is squished up against the edges rather than being 50/50 across --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 05:12, 30 November 2006 (CST)

Fixed and I have {{age}} online to work out age: {{age|1982|5|3}} Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 10:00, 30 November 2006 (CST)

Is it just me, or does no one use {{age}}? It's quite useful, and maybe it should be incorporated into this template. --Catrope 13:48, 24 February 2007 (CST)

I figured a lot of the templates would have to change. I'll post an example of what would be required to change for this to work. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 13:58, 24 February 2007 (CST)

Code be code John Colicos:

{{Star Data
| image = John_Colicos.jpg
| born_month= 12
| born_day= 10
| born_year= 1928
| death_month= 3
| death_day= 6
| death_year= 2000
| character= [[Baltar (TOS)|Lord Baltar]] 
| nationality= CA
| site=
| imdb= 0171475
}}

• born_month, born_day, and born_year: If these fields are filled out {{Birth date and age}}. This will be overridden if all three death dates are entered and revert to just the date, and use templates to show the date.
• death_month, death_day, and death_year: If these fields are filled out {{Death date and age}} will output actors death age. It will not update the age as the days go on.

A bitch to code, I agree, but I'm willing to try nevertheless. I will have to create a temporary template again (see also discussion below), and my gut feeling says {{ifdef}} will be useful. --Catrope 14:44, 24 February 2007 (CST)

I already got the code in my head, we just all have to discuss this first. It has to be agreed upon because then there is a TON of pages to update. Tons. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:50, 24 February 2007 (CST)

Alright, I agree anyway. Maybe call a vote on this? --Catrope 14:58, 24 February 2007 (CST)

User:Shane/Testing Area has the code and example. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 11:27, 25 February 2007 (CST)

Just to let those people know, I am going to update the main code tonight, so this is a project for me. Hope you come an join in! Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 17:19, 18 April 2007 (CDT)

I'd love to help, but I've been busy with my first proposed policy this afternoon. I will try to do some dates this evening. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 10:26, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

Managed to do 22 of them. Currently, the first 60 in the list are done, out of roughly 250. Category:Cast has 276 members however, weird ^^. Anyway, I'm off to bed, will continue tomorrow (if Shane hasn't done them all by then). --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 16:27, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

I'll finshed where you left off. :-) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 16:39, 19 April 2007 (CDT)

Dual nationality

Silly Dan requested that the infobox for an actor specify two nationalities. Because I couldn't edit this template (locked for obvious security reasons), I created a new template with an extra parameter for a second nationality. It's up and working, so could someone with admin access incorporate this parameter into this template? (Preferably Shane, he'll be able to see whether my template inadvertently breaks anything.) --Catrope 13:48, 24 February 2007 (CST)

Good idea, but actors are really only one primary nationality. We record where their born, not where they hold citizenship. Also, if you want to make a suggestion to a template, post it here first and we can work on it. For obvious reasons the other template you created was deleted because we can already do that without a template. I can see about adding a field that changes the nationally into an input to add more than one flag. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 13:53, 24 February 2007 (CST)

I see. If specifying multiple nationalities is not supposed to happen in the first place, that's OK. I agree a new template wasn't necessary, but since I can't edit the existing template, I decided to copy&edit it to {{Star data multinational}} as a temporary solution, until you could merge my parameter into the primary template. --Catrope 13:59, 24 February 2007 (CST)

The problem with this also, if your born in America your American. If your born in Canada, your Canadian. You come to the US your a US Cit, but that's not your nationality. So this might be moot. Maybe not upgrade the nationality field, but create a citizenship field. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:07, 24 February 2007 (CST)

That's not only a good idea, but also much cleaner and simpler to implement. It doesn't need {{ifdef}}, for one thing. On a side note, wouldn't it be useful to keep {{ifdef}} around just in case? --Catrope 14:13, 24 February 2007 (CST)

No. The avg. user, at least here, doesn't ever use templates. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:16, 24 February 2007 (CST)

I know that, but for us template makers, {{ifdef}} has the potential to make life easier and templates cleaner. --Catrope 14:17, 24 February 2007 (CST)

Vote

Proposed addition of fields birth_day, birth_month, birth_year, death_day, death_month and death_year to this template, in order to automatically calculate an actor's age. See also the discussion above and a working example. The code is ready for use, but loads of pages would have to be updated.

• Date Started: Tuesday, March 6, 2007 at 12:00 (UTC)
• Date Ending: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 at 12:00 (UTC)

Instructions: Use {{Support}}, {{Oppose}}, {{Abstain}}, and {{Neutral}}, supported by a reason and appropriately signed using the four tildes (~~~~).

Other users are encouraged to vote as well, simply use {{vote}} to add your vote. Refer to Template:Vote for complete instructions.

1. Joe Beaudoin Jr. - Support. Why not? -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 09:41, 6 March 2007 (CST)
2. CalculatinAvatar - Abstain. Automatic leave of absence due to inactivity.
3. Day - Abstain. Automatic leave of absence due to inactivity.
4. FrankieG - Support --FrankieG 10:18, 6 March 2007 (CST)
5. Mercifull -
6. Peter Farago -
7. Serenity - Support --Serenity 09:46, 6 March 2007 (CST)
8. Shane - Support Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 09:42, 6 March 2007 (CST)
9. Spencerian -
10. Steelviper - Support Resistance is futile. --Steelviper 09:45, 6 March 2007 (CST)
11. Talos -
12. Catrope - Support It's a nice improvement, and I volunteer for updating the actor pages. --Catrope 09:32, 6 March 2007 (CST)

Reason for Move

Because we are adding the new fields to the template on everyone's page is to add the dates sperate so the age is figured out automaticly. But how the heck will we know which ones are done and which ones are? Well simple.

Take this as an example...

• Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Star_Data - Shows all the pages using "Star Data"
• Edward James Olmos - Template was changed from "Star Data" to "Cast Data" and the new fields were updated.
• Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Star_Data - It's now not in this list so it's completed.

This is the tool we can use to see where we are in changing all the article pages.

• Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Cast_Data - If you looked here, you would see the pages not effected by the "Star Data" redirect. The template still works on all the the pages, just not the "Parent" template, which is "Cast Data". Under "Template:Star Data (redirect page)" are all the pages that still need to be done.

Hope I made this clear! Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 04:43, 20 April 2007 (CDT)

Original Series definition: a title of nobility (e.g. Lord Baltar)