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==Image Thumbs==
Can we change the background color of image thumbs to black? The yellow links don't show up very well against white, currently. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 16:04, 2 September 2005 (EDT)
: Planning on some cosmetic changes anyway. So I'll get right on it. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 16:29, 2 September 2005 (EDT)
:: I'd like to voice an opinion for dark grey or some shade. I think it's important to stand out against the black page background, but I agree the links are impossible to read. I'd been meditating on a proper solution for a couple days and dark grey doesn't entirely satisfy me, but it's better than either white or black. In my opinion, anyway. --[[User:Day|Day]] 17:03, 2 September 2005 (EDT)
::: How about the red shade I've implemented? -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 17:04, 2 September 2005 (EDT)
:::: Hrm. Not what I'd expected, but not bad, either. The links are certainly readable now, and it fits more with the theme of the site, so I think it's a good call. --[[User:Day|Day]] 17:17, 2 September 2005 (EDT)
While we're on the subject of changing link colors, do you think the dark blue color that's used in the navigational links at the top of BSwiki and for Wikipedia links could be lightened up a bit?  They're kind of...dark.  On a more subjective note, I think blue doesn't even fit in the red-yellow-on-black color scheme that you fine gentlemen have set up.  I'm sure everyone else disagrees with this, clearly, but that's just my opinion.  Regardless, they '''are''' just a tad too dark and don't show up very well against the black background.
:''[[User:Jzanjani|Jzanjani]] 16:42, 7 October 2005 (EDT)''


== Color scheme ==


==Image Floats==
Joe,


When using the extended image markup to float an image left or right without a thumbnail, a red background gets left behind in my browser. At the moment I'm using <nowiki><div style="float:right;"></div></nowiki> tags to surround the image, which doesn't give me the problem, but the use of HTML is undesirable for various reasons. Do you know why this is happening, and whether or not it's fixable? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:38, 20 September 2005 (EDT)
First of all, kudos on starting the wiki!  This will be an excellent resource and community, and I'm ecstatic to see it catch on so quickly.
: I'll check that issue out and get back to you. Thanks! -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:15, 20 September 2005 (EDT)
The color scheme, while definitely striking, can be a little hard on the eyes for some people, myself included.  Changing the skin under preferences helps with the white-on-black text, but all the boilerplate tables retain their FG and BG colors (I guess they're controlled by the individual templates, not by CSS).  Is there any way around this problem?  I don't know enough about Wiki protocol to determine whether templates can also be driven by CSS. If not, perhaps a discussion should be started about modifying the color palette altogether.  I personally would love to see an option for a more Colonial-Fleet-themed palette, with shades of gunmetal gray.


== Military Ranks ==
Thanks! -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 17:43, 18 January 2006 (EST)


Discussion moved to [[Talk:Military Ranks (RDM)]] by [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] at 21:46, 17 October 2005 (EDT).
: I bet they can be CSS-ified. Rather than giving them colors in the template directly, give them classes or ids and let the CSS file sort out what colors those mean. Now, I'm not ''certain'' that would work, since I've never worked with the MediaWIki software, but I get the impression that it's fairly robust with regard to things like this. --[[User:Day|Day]] 18:02, 18 January 2006 (EST)


== Logo ==
:: I can edit the templates to use CSS classes, and edit the stylesheet appropriately.  If anyone can come up with alternate color schemes, please bring them to my attention and I'll see what I can whip up. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:55, 18 January 2006 (EST)


I found a font that looks like the BSG font and I thought, Joe, if you'd like, I'd redo the logo so that Wiki is in exactly the right font. I'f want to do it off of whatever original was used for the one that's up, if it's still around. That way I wouldn't have to redo some already-done work and futz with matching the gold under the letters. I also thought it might be nice to have a favicon pic. I'm not sure how, exactly, those work, but I understand they're 16x16px, and I thought a W in the BSG font would be nice, to kind of mirror the Wikipedia W, but, you know, with a Battlestar twist. Whatcha think? --[[User:Day|Day]] 22:58, 17 October 2005 (EDT)
::: Awesome!  Thanks, Joe. I can start developing the gray idea... as soon as I relearn CSS. Boy, it's been awhile. -- [[User:Mayosolo|Mayosolo]] 00:57, 19 January 2006 (EST)
: Feel free to make a logo and [[Wikipedia:favicon|favicon]]. I've been meaning to make one, but I'm not artistically inclined. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 14:18, 22 October 2005 (EDT)


:: Do you have the original image that you could share with me? I'm not sure how well I'd be able to get rid of the old text. If not, no worries, I'll give it a try anyway. Just lemme know. --[[User:Day|Day]] 18:08, 22 October 2005 (EDT)
:::: I may be wrong, but the way I read that, Joe wants colors (like #777777 for a grey, though a bland one) from us (though I like and use the black and red scheme). I think he can handle the CSSing. I could be misunderstanding him, though. If you want someone to do some grunt-work CSSing, Joe, lemme know. I know a thing or two about it. --[[User:Day|Day]] 05:37, 19 January 2006 (EST)


::: Actually, it's just a screencap of the logo that was used at the end of the opening credits in season one.  Essentially, I erased the "BSG 75" at the bottom and added "Wiki".  However, the screencap came from an inferior non-DVD copy of an episode, so you may want to just go ahead and screencap that same logo, if you have a DVD version of any first season episodes. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:01, 22 October 2005 (EDT)
== Name Change ==


:::: Oh this project is just too cool! I can't wait. Good luck, Day. --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 21:33, 22 October 2005 (EDT)
Joe, is it possible for you to change my username? Thanks --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 13:32, 28 January 2006 (EST)
: Yes, it should be a relatively painless manner. What do you wish your user name changed to? -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 21:39, 28 January 2006 (EST)


::::: Thanks, Watcher. I'll go for a DVD screen cap, if I can. The player I use for it (because it doesn't have copy-protection or whatever it is in the normal player that makes all my caps turn to just blak) is somewhat inaccurate with the pausing, so I will probably spend more time listening, over and over, to the final ten seconds or so of the credits than working on the thing in GIMP. Heh. --[[User:Day|Day]] 06:05, 23 October 2005 (EDT)
:: "Kraetos" would be great. Thanks! --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 23:24, 28 January 2006 (EST)


[[image:Logo.jpg|left]]
::I would also like my name changed (as I mentioned on my talk page), to "The Merovingian" ("the" is required). If you can't have two words, use "The_Merovingian". --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 21:42, 28 January 2006 (EST)
:::::: Dig it. Whatcha think? I dunno how to make Favicons, so I'll do some research. I think this thing turned out decently, though. Comments on changes are welcome. I make no promises, but I'll see what I can do about them. Also... why's there red sticking out around my image. As you can see (if you clikc) that's not part of the original. --[[User:Day|Day]] 20:05, 23 October 2005 (EDT)


::::::: Excellent Centurian (I'm watching "Rome" right now). Proceed with the gods' blessings. --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 21:45, 23 October 2005 (EDT)
== CSS ==


::::::::I kind of like Mason's. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:54, 24 October 2005 (EDT)
[[User:Steelviper|SV]] and I got to talking about [[User talk:Steelviper/CommunityPortal#COlor Scheme|CSSing as it applies to skins here]]. I was wondering, since I know a thing or two (maybe three, but no more) about CSS, how you felt about handing out the .css files to be modified so we could use classes and ids rather than explicit colors for the various templates and boxes we've got around. If you'd rather do this yourself, that's fine, too. I just thought I'd offer/ask. --[[User:Day|Day]] 15:38, 1 February 2006 (EST)
: I'd have no problem in giving out the CSS sheets.  Just [mailto:joebeaudoin@joebeaudoin.net mail me] with the addresses you want the CSS files sent to and I'll send them out. :-) -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 19:15, 1 February 2006 (EST)


:::::::::True, MASON's version is very nicely realized. It is clean in execution while simultaneously addressing the concern Day originally raised. I preferred it, initially (due in no small part to its appearing first). However, there is a grittiness and rough hewn realism to the series that I feel is more appropraitely reflected in Day's version.
==Cite extensions==
This is, without a doubt, an artistic conceit and it can surely be argued that this site strives to bring greater clarity to the show (as it could be said MASON's version depicts), but I feel Day's version would be more evocative of the experience that brings people (non-wikipedians) to this site in the first place.
Perhaps Day's logo could somehow be used in the articles intended for public consumption and MASON's on the pages folks like us peruse. (I have no idea whether this is even possible, Joe.) --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 03:28, 24 October 2005 (EDT)


Joe, I'm not sure if you've seen the [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cite/Cite.php cite extension], but this would make it much easier to document our sources. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 00:54, 2 February 2006 (EST)
: I've been moseying around the extensions on the MediaWiki & Meta sites and happened upon this one as well; I even tried it on a test wiki I loaded on the server a few days ago.  Unfortunately, it only works on the current unstable version of 1.6. (We use the 1.5 series, and I am not comfortable with loading anything that is in alpha stages at this time.) The extension does look cool, however, and would make our lives a lot easier, and I hope that once 1.6 hits stable we can go ahead an implement it on this wiki. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 09:15, 2 February 2006 (EST)


== Hurricane Wilma ==
::Are you certain? en.wikipedia.org seems to have the extension enabled. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 10:29, 2 February 2006 (EST)


Hope everything turns out OK for you, Joe. I'm sure I'm in safe territory to say we'll all be pullin' for ya. --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 03:35, 24 October 2005 (EDT)
:::Wikipedia is running 1.6alpha of Mediawiki, while we're on 1.5.5 over here. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:35, 2 February 2006 (EST)
 
:::All Wikimedia projects tend to run the experimental versions of the MediaWiki software. I really don't see the logic of it, but... -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 11:30, 2 February 2006 (EST)
 
::::That's a neat feature. I'm patient enough to wait for someone else to get the bugs out, though. It will be needed here as the new show becomes not-so-new and mistakes crop up. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 01:26, 3 February 2006 (EST)
 
== Smaller Image ==
 
Joe, I've uploaded a smaller version of he BSG wiki image, so you can use it on the project pages. Most web browsers horribly pixelate images when scaled (see a project page for an example), using this smaller version will prevent that. The file is located at Image:BSG-WIKI-SM.png. [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Image:BSG-WIKI_SM.png] --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 18:27, 4 February 2006 (EST)
 
==image==
: ''Moved from [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe's user page]] by [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] on 09:28, 7 February 2006 (EST).''
 
I get some of my images from http://galactica.emedian.net/. --[[User:DrBat|DrBat]] 08:24, 7 February 2006 (EST)
 
== Name Change (Part deux) ==
 
Joe, I hate to be a bother, but I am politely reminding you of my [[User_talk:Joe.Beaudoin#Name_Change|request]] for a name change. If there is a problem, could you let me know? Thanks! --[[User:BMS|BMS]] 22:12, 7 February 2006 (EST)
 
== Slander ==
 
Joe, I tried to use the "e-mail this user" in the toolbox but it said I need to be logged in with a valid e-mail address in my preferences, which I do so I don't know why I couldn't email you.  So I'll have to ask you this here.  Feel free to delete this after you read it.
 
I would hope that the Battlestar Wiki strives to be free of slander so I am requesting you remove the parts of Merv's posting in this thread:
 
http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sources_talk:Correspondence_with_Jim_Iaccino
 
Where he claims that I called Jim's workplace ( I did not and he admits he was "voicing it as a possibility as I have my suspicions. It's actually probably nothing.")
 
Where he claims I PM'd him an abusive message (I have never PM'd him.)
 
Where he claims I expressed a desire to "anally rape" him (I certainly have never expressed such a desire.)
 
Where he claims I sent YOU a threatening e-mail (I'm sure you realise this is false.)
 
These claims are clearly slander and have no place on your website.  The fact that he made up a fictitious PM ((the PM "yeah I am Ribzy you frakhead and I'm going to crucify you!", was a dead giveaway...) Should tell you the depths he will sink to support his slander.
 
Thank you, take care and control.

Latest revision as of 01:37, 11 April 2020

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Color scheme[edit]

Joe,

First of all, kudos on starting the wiki! This will be an excellent resource and community, and I'm ecstatic to see it catch on so quickly. The color scheme, while definitely striking, can be a little hard on the eyes for some people, myself included. Changing the skin under preferences helps with the white-on-black text, but all the boilerplate tables retain their FG and BG colors (I guess they're controlled by the individual templates, not by CSS). Is there any way around this problem? I don't know enough about Wiki protocol to determine whether templates can also be driven by CSS. If not, perhaps a discussion should be started about modifying the color palette altogether. I personally would love to see an option for a more Colonial-Fleet-themed palette, with shades of gunmetal gray.

Thanks! -- Mayosolo 17:43, 18 January 2006 (EST)

I bet they can be CSS-ified. Rather than giving them colors in the template directly, give them classes or ids and let the CSS file sort out what colors those mean. Now, I'm not certain that would work, since I've never worked with the MediaWIki software, but I get the impression that it's fairly robust with regard to things like this. --Day 18:02, 18 January 2006 (EST)
I can edit the templates to use CSS classes, and edit the stylesheet appropriately. If anyone can come up with alternate color schemes, please bring them to my attention and I'll see what I can whip up. -- Joe Beaudoin 22:55, 18 January 2006 (EST)
Awesome! Thanks, Joe. I can start developing the gray idea... as soon as I relearn CSS. Boy, it's been awhile. -- Mayosolo 00:57, 19 January 2006 (EST)
I may be wrong, but the way I read that, Joe wants colors (like #777777 for a grey, though a bland one) from us (though I like and use the black and red scheme). I think he can handle the CSSing. I could be misunderstanding him, though. If you want someone to do some grunt-work CSSing, Joe, lemme know. I know a thing or two about it. --Day 05:37, 19 January 2006 (EST)

Name Change[edit]

Joe, is it possible for you to change my username? Thanks --BMS 13:32, 28 January 2006 (EST)

Yes, it should be a relatively painless manner. What do you wish your user name changed to? -- Joe Beaudoin 21:39, 28 January 2006 (EST)
"Kraetos" would be great. Thanks! --BMS 23:24, 28 January 2006 (EST)
I would also like my name changed (as I mentioned on my talk page), to "The Merovingian" ("the" is required). If you can't have two words, use "The_Merovingian". --Ricimer 21:42, 28 January 2006 (EST)

CSS[edit]

SV and I got to talking about CSSing as it applies to skins here. I was wondering, since I know a thing or two (maybe three, but no more) about CSS, how you felt about handing out the .css files to be modified so we could use classes and ids rather than explicit colors for the various templates and boxes we've got around. If you'd rather do this yourself, that's fine, too. I just thought I'd offer/ask. --Day 15:38, 1 February 2006 (EST)

I'd have no problem in giving out the CSS sheets. Just mail me with the addresses you want the CSS files sent to and I'll send them out. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin 19:15, 1 February 2006 (EST)

Cite extensions[edit]

Joe, I'm not sure if you've seen the cite extension, but this would make it much easier to document our sources. --April Arcus 00:54, 2 February 2006 (EST)

I've been moseying around the extensions on the MediaWiki & Meta sites and happened upon this one as well; I even tried it on a test wiki I loaded on the server a few days ago. Unfortunately, it only works on the current unstable version of 1.6. (We use the 1.5 series, and I am not comfortable with loading anything that is in alpha stages at this time.) The extension does look cool, however, and would make our lives a lot easier, and I hope that once 1.6 hits stable we can go ahead an implement it on this wiki. -- Joe Beaudoin 09:15, 2 February 2006 (EST)
Are you certain? en.wikipedia.org seems to have the extension enabled. --April Arcus 10:29, 2 February 2006 (EST)
Wikipedia is running 1.6alpha of Mediawiki, while we're on 1.5.5 over here. --Steelviper 10:35, 2 February 2006 (EST)
All Wikimedia projects tend to run the experimental versions of the MediaWiki software. I really don't see the logic of it, but... -- Joe Beaudoin 11:30, 2 February 2006 (EST)
That's a neat feature. I'm patient enough to wait for someone else to get the bugs out, though. It will be needed here as the new show becomes not-so-new and mistakes crop up. --Spencerian 01:26, 3 February 2006 (EST)

Smaller Image[edit]

Joe, I've uploaded a smaller version of he BSG wiki image, so you can use it on the project pages. Most web browsers horribly pixelate images when scaled (see a project page for an example), using this smaller version will prevent that. The file is located at Image:BSG-WIKI-SM.png. [1] --BMS 18:27, 4 February 2006 (EST)

image[edit]

Moved from Joe's user page by Joe Beaudoin on 09:28, 7 February 2006 (EST).

I get some of my images from http://galactica.emedian.net/. --DrBat 08:24, 7 February 2006 (EST)

Name Change (Part deux)[edit]

Joe, I hate to be a bother, but I am politely reminding you of my request for a name change. If there is a problem, could you let me know? Thanks! --BMS 22:12, 7 February 2006 (EST)

Slander[edit]

Joe, I tried to use the "e-mail this user" in the toolbox but it said I need to be logged in with a valid e-mail address in my preferences, which I do so I don't know why I couldn't email you. So I'll have to ask you this here. Feel free to delete this after you read it.

I would hope that the Battlestar Wiki strives to be free of slander so I am requesting you remove the parts of Merv's posting in this thread:

http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Sources_talk:Correspondence_with_Jim_Iaccino

Where he claims that I called Jim's workplace ( I did not and he admits he was "voicing it as a possibility as I have my suspicions. It's actually probably nothing.")

Where he claims I PM'd him an abusive message (I have never PM'd him.)

Where he claims I expressed a desire to "anally rape" him (I certainly have never expressed such a desire.)

Where he claims I sent YOU a threatening e-mail (I'm sure you realise this is false.)

These claims are clearly slander and have no place on your website. The fact that he made up a fictitious PM ((the PM "yeah I am Ribzy you frakhead and I'm going to crucify you!", was a dead giveaway...) Should tell you the depths he will sink to support his slander.

Thank you, take care and control.