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== Any ideas ==
== Any ideas ==
See header. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:02, 7 March 2008 (CST)
See header. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:02, 7 March 2008 (CST)
:We could try [[Lee Adama]], since it's one of the best character articles IMO. While it still retells a lot of plot, it does attempt to note his motivations, character traits and growth. And it also focuses on smaller things that are important for him. Other ideas would be some previous nominees likes [[Virtual beings]] or [[Weapons in the Re-imagined Series]].
A general comment: A suggestion I've received through the survey is to avoid doing obvious articles as "Featured Articles", and try some unconventional articles that still qualify.  Tom Zarek and most of the other articles we've had in the past are, for all intents and purposes, very conventional and safe articles. They're obvious choices... And most people know about them anyway...
I think it would be best to spice up our choices a bit. Try something different. Maybe something like [[Unnamed characters (1980)]], [[Starbuck's Poem]], [[Norman Blore]], [[The Colonial Gang]]... something that is unconventional. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:25, 7 March 2008 (CST)
:True. Maybe it would be better to use the Quality Article "award" a lot more to mark really good articles. Instead of using the best ones for FAs. [[Starbuck's Poem]] is nice and not something we would have chosen in the past, because it's so short. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 15:42, 7 March 2008 (CST)
So, any ideas? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 19:27, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
:Well, Shane has already slapped the candidate tag on on "Colonial Gang" and as said "Starbuck's Poem" might not be a bad choice for unusualness, though it's very short. Maybe [[Memorial hallway]]? It's an integral concept of the show, but doesn't have that many views. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:52, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
:: I would like to see the Memorial hallway featured as well. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:10, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
:::Done. So do we now vote on those 3, or just but them up over the next three months? -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 20:28, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
::::Let's go for those three. I'm all for the Hallway first. Good one in light of the upcoming month. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:06, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
:::::I concur. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:19, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
:::::Hallway is not bad also. Support :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:42, 14 March 2008 (CDT)
Uh, can we ''please'' change the FA before we all get a new birthday? Looks like we have a consensue and future procedure. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:10, 23 March 2008 (CDT)
:Speaking of which, we should look at simplifying the FA and FP update process. It's currently a pretty arduous and tedious task, and has generally been left to me (though you don't need any special privs to do it). I think we'd get more speedy featured content updates if it was easy enough that anybody could go ahead and do it. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:05, 23 March 2008 (CDT)
::Agreed. Weren't we talking about some automated system that could do this automatically for selected quality articles or articles we can mark as future articles? We'd only have to unmark an article so it does not display again or use some time/date stamping whatzis. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:20, 24 March 2008 (CDT)
::[[Norman Blore]] seems to be a pretty good FA choice. For an 1980 it's very well detailed. :D [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 01:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
== Featured Article for April ==
Ok, I was thinking the featured article for <s>May</s> April would be one of the following more obscure articles:
* [[Starbuck's Poem]]
* [[Norman Blore]] (since this was seconded)
* [[The Destiny]]
* [[Borellian Nomen]]
* [[Adama's Medallion]]
* [[Xaviar]]
We just need to narrow it down a bit more. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 04:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:The Destiny obscure? That stuff is all anyone talks about these days. The poem would be good. Also Starbuck related, but better. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:: Our article on it only gets roughly 20,000 hits. In comparison, the Final Five article gets almost 200,000 hits. However, I would really like "[[Starbuck's Poem]]" to be May's FA, since it is a very good article and worthy of attention; it only has approx. 2,300 hits. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:So is April going to be Colonial Gang? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:: See above. ;-) Although the Colonial Gang would be a good article for June. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I was following pretty well... it's just that we probably ought to have an article for April as well, right? (It seems we've skipped right to May?) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 18:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I was under the impression that the memorial hallway was only put up a week or so ago... <s>I'll check.</s> Yeah, it was added on March 23rd... A little over a week ago now. Which is why I was under the impression that we had our April article. However, let's decide on the April article now... And seeing that it should really be Thrace related, I'm going with Starbuck's Poem, unless there's other objections or suggestions.  -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Sounds good. I figured it'd be better to slight the March article (an off-season month anyway) and have something fresh for the new season. That way we'd be back on the calendar month track (instead of having to change it on the 23rd of each month, or whatever). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 18:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::: I'll change the FA later tonight then, if I don't hear any objections. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I've changed the FA. Let's start discussing May's FA, so we can get that up as well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Time for May? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 22:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::Sure. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 23:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
== Featured Article for May ==
Even though it is another obscure article, I like the runner-up for April, [[Norman Blore]] because it's from Galactica 1980. Would welcome any other suggestions. -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
:Will someone please update the FA for me? -- [[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 11:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
== Featured Article for June ==
Any thoughts on a featured article for June? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 20:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:You suggested [[Battlestar Galactica (SDS)]] in the featured picture debate. That would be something totally different for a change. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 20:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::Sounds ok to me. Well referenced, and a topic some more casual BSG fans might not be aware of. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 23:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Concur. There's actually quite some stuff in the SDS draft that was used in RDM ([[Water]], [[Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II]]). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 21:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Beyond time to switch to that now, but I don't really have the time since I have to learn for an exam tomorrow :( -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 19:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 02:07, 3 March 2009

Any ideas[edit]

See header. --Steelviper 15:02, 7 March 2008 (CST)

We could try Lee Adama, since it's one of the best character articles IMO. While it still retells a lot of plot, it does attempt to note his motivations, character traits and growth. And it also focuses on smaller things that are important for him. Other ideas would be some previous nominees likes Virtual beings or Weapons in the Re-imagined Series.

A general comment: A suggestion I've received through the survey is to avoid doing obvious articles as "Featured Articles", and try some unconventional articles that still qualify. Tom Zarek and most of the other articles we've had in the past are, for all intents and purposes, very conventional and safe articles. They're obvious choices... And most people know about them anyway...

I think it would be best to spice up our choices a bit. Try something different. Maybe something like Unnamed characters (1980), Starbuck's Poem, Norman Blore, The Colonial Gang... something that is unconventional. Thoughts? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 15:25, 7 March 2008 (CST)

True. Maybe it would be better to use the Quality Article "award" a lot more to mark really good articles. Instead of using the best ones for FAs. Starbuck's Poem is nice and not something we would have chosen in the past, because it's so short. -- Serenity 15:42, 7 March 2008 (CST)

So, any ideas? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 19:27, 12 March 2008 (CDT)

Well, Shane has already slapped the candidate tag on on "Colonial Gang" and as said "Starbuck's Poem" might not be a bad choice for unusualness, though it's very short. Maybe Memorial hallway? It's an integral concept of the show, but doesn't have that many views. -- Serenity 19:52, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
I would like to see the Memorial hallway featured as well. :) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 20:10, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
Done. So do we now vote on those 3, or just but them up over the next three months? -- Serenity 20:28, 12 March 2008 (CDT)
Let's go for those three. I'm all for the Hallway first. Good one in light of the upcoming month. --Spencerian 18:06, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
I concur. -- FrankieG 19:19, 13 March 2008 (CDT)
Hallway is not bad also. Support :) Shane (T - C - E) 12:42, 14 March 2008 (CDT)

Uh, can we please change the FA before we all get a new birthday? Looks like we have a consensue and future procedure. --Spencerian 16:10, 23 March 2008 (CDT)

Speaking of which, we should look at simplifying the FA and FP update process. It's currently a pretty arduous and tedious task, and has generally been left to me (though you don't need any special privs to do it). I think we'd get more speedy featured content updates if it was easy enough that anybody could go ahead and do it. --Steelviper 17:05, 23 March 2008 (CDT)
Agreed. Weren't we talking about some automated system that could do this automatically for selected quality articles or articles we can mark as future articles? We'd only have to unmark an article so it does not display again or use some time/date stamping whatzis. --Spencerian 17:20, 24 March 2008 (CDT)
Norman Blore seems to be a pretty good FA choice. For an 1980 it's very well detailed. :D Shane (talk) 01:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article for April[edit]

Ok, I was thinking the featured article for May April would be one of the following more obscure articles:

We just need to narrow it down a bit more. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 04:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

The Destiny obscure? That stuff is all anyone talks about these days. The poem would be good. Also Starbuck related, but better. -- Serenity 09:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Our article on it only gets roughly 20,000 hits. In comparison, the Final Five article gets almost 200,000 hits. However, I would really like "Starbuck's Poem" to be May's FA, since it is a very good article and worthy of attention; it only has approx. 2,300 hits. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 16:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
So is April going to be Colonial Gang? --Steelviper 14:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
See above. ;-) Although the Colonial Gang would be a good article for June. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 16:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I was following pretty well... it's just that we probably ought to have an article for April as well, right? (It seems we've skipped right to May?) --Steelviper 18:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I was under the impression that the memorial hallway was only put up a week or so ago... I'll check. Yeah, it was added on March 23rd... A little over a week ago now. Which is why I was under the impression that we had our April article. However, let's decide on the April article now... And seeing that it should really be Thrace related, I'm going with Starbuck's Poem, unless there's other objections or suggestions. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 20:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Sounds good. I figured it'd be better to slight the March article (an off-season month anyway) and have something fresh for the new season. That way we'd be back on the calendar month track (instead of having to change it on the 23rd of each month, or whatever). --Steelviper 18:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll change the FA later tonight then, if I don't hear any objections. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 20:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I've changed the FA. Let's start discussing May's FA, so we can get that up as well. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 03:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Time for May? --Steelviper 22:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Sure. -- Serenity 23:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article for May[edit]

Even though it is another obscure article, I like the runner-up for April, Norman Blore because it's from Galactica 1980. Would welcome any other suggestions. -- FrankieG 18:44, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Will someone please update the FA for me? -- FrankieG 11:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Featured Article for June[edit]

Any thoughts on a featured article for June? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 20:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

You suggested Battlestar Galactica (SDS) in the featured picture debate. That would be something totally different for a change. -- Serenity 20:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Sounds ok to me. Well referenced, and a topic some more casual BSG fans might not be aware of. --Steelviper 23:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Concur. There's actually quite some stuff in the SDS draft that was used in RDM (Water, Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II). --Catrope(Talk to me or e-mail me) 21:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Beyond time to switch to that now, but I don't really have the time since I have to learn for an exam tomorrow :( -- Serenity 19:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)