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== 2k Logo ==
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I updated the logo just cause I will be @ work from 6:30pm to 7am tonight. Enjoy BSG tonight. :-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:43, 28 January 2007 (CST)
== An old question about hits counter from Enabran ==
:Also... page me if there are any problems tonight. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:26, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:But we don't have 2000 articles yet ;) *quickly deleted some to lower the count* --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 16:36, 28 January 2007 (CST)
::Woohoo! :> --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:38, 28 January 2007 (CST)
:::Woo, yay and whatnot :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 02:57, 29 January 2007 (CST)


== Battlestarwiki españa ==
Hi Joe,<br/>[[user:Enabran|Enabran]] asked some time ago if it is possible to retrieve the hits counter. I tried to install a stable version of [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HitCounters Extension:HitCounters] on the [[:fr:|French wiki]]. It seems to work. You'll need to run an <tt>maintenance/update.php</tt> after installing the extension with the following in the <tt>LocalSettings.php</tt> file


Hi, first you have to excuse my poor english but iam a spanish native speaker. I tried to contact with shane in BSW España, but i recieved no answer. I have some questions about that wiki. --[[User:Baltar Gaiolas|Baltar Gaiolas]] 21:03, 15 February 2007 (CST)
wfLoadExtension( 'HitCounters' );
: Hi, no problem. Actually, Shane just replied to [[es:Usuario Discusión:Shane|you here]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:05, 15 February 2007 (CST)


== .com ==
It should keep the old values. As you wish, but I think there will be a happy, happy editor ;-) Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 13:57, 3 June 2020 (PDT)


Goes no where. ;-) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:53, 21 February 2007 (CST)
: I will look into it! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:20, 4 June 2020 (PDT)
: Yeah, I know that... It was supposed to go to a mirror site that never happened. I'll have to go and change it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:41, 21 February 2007 (CST)
::That's what you told me two weeks ago :D --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 14:51, 21 February 2007 (CST)
:::.net loads into a frame instead of a proper redirect too. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 14:53, 21 February 2007 (CST)
::::Yeah, yeah. :-) However, I don't see how .net loads into a frame... -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:59, 21 February 2007 (CST)
::::Actually, it ''does'' load into a frame; there was an option that was recently added to the domain registrar's control panel. It just wasn't obvious to me. Anyway, .com now redirects to .org, and I've removed the frame option from the .net forward (same with the .com). Should work in less than an hour. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:09, 21 February 2007 (CST)
:::::Woo Yay and whatnot ^_^ --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 15:20, 21 February 2007 (CST)


== Signature Problem ==
:: I can see the hit counter back on the french wiki - can someone please add it to the german wiki? [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 14:23, 14 November 2020 (PST)


Hey Joe, I was having a little truble with my signature.  When I use the signature timestamp my sn is comingout ZareCk Rocks, even though my sn is Zarek Rocks.  Just a minor problem but I wanted to see if you had any advice.  Thanks!--Zareck Rocks 23:40, 12 March 2007 (CDT)
:: Installed. Unfortunately, it didn't retain the old numbers, and there was no way to recover those. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:21, 2 January 2021 (PST)
: Go to [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]]. Click on "User Profile" and then find the field titled "nickname". There you should probably see the issue. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 05:10, 13 March 2007 (CDT)


== Gmail ==
::: oh, thank you! Any number is better than no number ;-) [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 00:51, 3 January 2021 (PST)
Check your gmail for a couple of responses regarding the B5 thing. They're interested in having a conversation. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:49, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
:::: There is one way: Hit the refresh button x times to gain x counters :-D [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 01:00, 3 January 2021 (PST)
: I saw that. I'll reply after I get some grub. Looks promising, though. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:11, 17 April 2007 (CDT)
::::: Or by incrementing the number in <tt>page_counter.sql</tt> table in the DB directly -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::: Hit counters are, in general, worthless data point generators anyway as they cannot be individually identified and categorized. They're very, well, "Web 1.0" and beyond obsolete. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)


== Verb Tense? ==
== TOS/G80 unproduced scripts ==


I just saw that an admin changed the verb tense on the edits I made to the [[Military Ranks (RDM)]] page to the passive, past tense, voice although the wiki policy states that we are to write in the active, present tense, voice.
Greetings fellow Colonial!


When exactly is it appropriate to use the differing verb tense?
I'm interested in assisting in regards to the summary pages of unproduced scripts of the 1978 series and its follow-up in 1980, but there are a few problems in this regard. First, it appears the wiki hasn't been updated in quite some time regarding these scripts (so I'm unsure if this is an active project or not). Second, the link to the Battlestar Pegasus page is dead. I have a few scripts printed out from the '78 series a few years ago, but I'd need access to the other scripts (especially The Beta Pirates, which I've wanted to read for many yahrens). Is this wiki still active, and can I assist? {{unsigned|Ninth Lord of Kobol}}
--[[User:Tungsten|Tungsten]] 12:55, 23 April 2007 (CDT)


: The content is more "real world" and so falls under a different set of guidelines, see: [[Battlestar Wiki:Real Point of View]]. Of course, to ask exactly why the edit occurred, [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] would be willing and able to answer any of your questions regarding his edit. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 13:01, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
: Hello! Yes, the wiki is still somewhat active. I mostly maintain the English one at this point, with assistance of two other admins: [[User:Enabran]] of the [[:de:|German language Wiki]] and [[User:LIMAFOX76]] of the [[:fr:|French language Wiki]].


:I didn't change the tense. It's still present. To be honest, I can't really remember why I changed the voice. It wasn't really wrong per se. In fact, I think I'll change it back. It looks better the way it was :s --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:17, 23 April 2007 (CDT)
: As to the scripts, I have digitized PDF copies of the ones I've collected over the yahrens. I just need to re-upload them again (I'll upload them to the Wiki directly and update the links to the specific episodes). I'll start with "[[The Beta Pirates]]" and go from there. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


:O sorry about that. I actually thought I asked [[User:Serenity|Serenity]]. Must have had to many tabs open and hit the wrong one :). Thanks for the feedback. I'm pretty new to this whole wiki contributions thing and just wanted to make sure I got the rules down so I don't make a mess of things :). Thank you both. --[[User:Tungsten|Tungsten]] 02:12, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
== Battlestar Wiki's new skin ==
::Well as said, you didn't do anything wrong. I think I thought it looked better the other way. Just a style thing. But I reverted my edit after thinking about it some more. While we appreciate that you check the rules beforehand, don't worry about messing up. If you break some style convention 1 or 2 times, an admin will usually tell you on your user page, and correct it. But it's no big thing. Just saves us work mopping after other people if they know the stuff. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 04:41, 24 April 2007 (CDT)
 
Hi Joe,<br/>I hope you're well. I discovered the new skin you implanted for BW. Is that normal if everything is still in a white background even if you modified the css page to adapt? Thanks for your answer. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 06:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 
: Howdy! Things are OK -- I hope things are good for you! For the background, it is adaptable, and there are three options if you click on the wheel/gear icon on the upper menu bar: Auto, Light and Dark. You might be on "light" or "auto," so if you click on Dark you should get the "darker" red theme.
 
: I'm trying to figure out what to do for the "light" theme (so I've left it alone for now), and might try something that invokes the cream/light brown paperwork from the series.  
 
: I'm tweaking the theme as I go as well, so if you have any thoughts or suggestions, let me know. Cheers! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 23:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
:: Things are good for me as well, thanks! Regarding the skin, I chose the Dark theme, yet it is still white. Did I miss something in my parameters??
:: Small update, it seems that the dark and light themes are linked to the browser main color theme. I managed to change it in Edge and Firefox but I had to purge the cache. If I switch the browsers' theme back to light, it comes back to the light mode. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 20:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
 
::: I loved the old cream-coloured theme developed by Paul Gu. I don't think that theme would work in the current versions of Media Wiki, though. But if you have the CSS of that light theme, maybe we can use the same colours in the current Citizen based theme? -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
:  For the "light" version, I was aiming towards the cream color, to mimic the paperwork in the series. We had something like that for the "Case Orange" update blog back in the day. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 
== SSL certificates ==
 
Hi Joe,<br/>Hope you're fine. There is an issue with the SSL certificates on all Battlestar wikis and Buck Wiki. It says that they are not valid anymore and block the page's loading. Is it possible to update the certificates so no warning message appears ? Thank you very much. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 10:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
 
: This is remedied now. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:58, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 
Hi Joe,<br />The SSL certificates have expired again, preventing images from loading on all pages. Sorry to bring bad news as a greeting! I really love this site, so, thank you for creating and maintaining it. I hope you are doing well! --[[User:Allatariel|Allatariel]] ([[User talk:Allatariel|talk]]) 15:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
: Greetings! They've just been renewed, and I'm working on some server updates to boot. Hope you are doing well too, and thank you for your support! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
 
:: FYI. The mobile version is showing some insecure content warnings. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
 
::: Interesting. Anything specific so I can try to replicate to remedy? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 
== Images ==
 
I can't see any images on the website.
 
: This is remedied now. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:57, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 
== Caprica fonts on German site ==
 
Hi Joe,<br/>I hope you're fine. Is it possible please to add the two "Caprica" fonts on the German wiki root directory? It is already configured to have them, so it will appears as soon you import them. Thanks a lot! Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 20:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
: Will do! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 02:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
 
== Old WikiFrakr content and other language wikis ==
 
WiiFrakr had some fantastic and hilarious content back in the day. Sadly this was lost in time. Is there a way to restore those pages back if a backup is available? Maybe instead of a separate sub-wiki, those pages can live under a namespace on the English Wiki.
Similarly, the other language wikis which existed are lost. Is it possible to restore them too?  -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
: I believe a backup is available, but I haven't gotten to it, as I haven't prioritized it. As to the other language wikis, I don't believe there was much in the way of content, beyond the German and French versions that were restored. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 21:31, 4 July 2023


An old question about hits counter from Enabran

Hi Joe,
Enabran asked some time ago if it is possible to retrieve the hits counter. I tried to install a stable version of Extension:HitCounters on the French wiki. It seems to work. You'll need to run an maintenance/update.php after installing the extension with the following in the LocalSettings.php file

wfLoadExtension( 'HitCounters' );

It should keep the old values. As you wish, but I think there will be a happy, happy editor ;-) Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 13:57, 3 June 2020 (PDT)

I will look into it! Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 11:20, 4 June 2020 (PDT)
I can see the hit counter back on the french wiki - can someone please add it to the german wiki? Enabran (talk) 14:23, 14 November 2020 (PST)
Installed. Unfortunately, it didn't retain the old numbers, and there was no way to recover those. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 16:21, 2 January 2021 (PST)
oh, thank you! Any number is better than no number ;-) Enabran (talk) 00:51, 3 January 2021 (PST)
There is one way: Hit the refresh button x times to gain x counters :-D Enabran (talk) 01:00, 3 January 2021 (PST)
Or by incrementing the number in page_counter.sql table in the DB directly -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hit counters are, in general, worthless data point generators anyway as they cannot be individually identified and categorized. They're very, well, "Web 1.0" and beyond obsolete. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 21:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

TOS/G80 unproduced scripts

Greetings fellow Colonial!

I'm interested in assisting in regards to the summary pages of unproduced scripts of the 1978 series and its follow-up in 1980, but there are a few problems in this regard. First, it appears the wiki hasn't been updated in quite some time regarding these scripts (so I'm unsure if this is an active project or not). Second, the link to the Battlestar Pegasus page is dead. I have a few scripts printed out from the '78 series a few years ago, but I'd need access to the other scripts (especially The Beta Pirates, which I've wanted to read for many yahrens). Is this wiki still active, and can I assist? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ninth Lord of Kobol (talk • contribs).

Hello! Yes, the wiki is still somewhat active. I mostly maintain the English one at this point, with assistance of two other admins: User:Enabran of the German language Wiki and User:LIMAFOX76 of the French language Wiki.
As to the scripts, I have digitized PDF copies of the ones I've collected over the yahrens. I just need to re-upload them again (I'll upload them to the Wiki directly and update the links to the specific episodes). I'll start with "The Beta Pirates" and go from there. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 14:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Battlestar Wiki's new skin

Hi Joe,
I hope you're well. I discovered the new skin you implanted for BW. Is that normal if everything is still in a white background even if you modified the css page to adapt? Thanks for your answer. Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 06:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Howdy! Things are OK -- I hope things are good for you! For the background, it is adaptable, and there are three options if you click on the wheel/gear icon on the upper menu bar: Auto, Light and Dark. You might be on "light" or "auto," so if you click on Dark you should get the "darker" red theme.
I'm trying to figure out what to do for the "light" theme (so I've left it alone for now), and might try something that invokes the cream/light brown paperwork from the series.
I'm tweaking the theme as I go as well, so if you have any thoughts or suggestions, let me know. Cheers! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 23:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Things are good for me as well, thanks! Regarding the skin, I chose the Dark theme, yet it is still white. Did I miss something in my parameters??
Small update, it seems that the dark and light themes are linked to the browser main color theme. I managed to change it in Edge and Firefox but I had to purge the cache. If I switch the browsers' theme back to light, it comes back to the light mode. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 20:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
I loved the old cream-coloured theme developed by Paul Gu. I don't think that theme would work in the current versions of Media Wiki, though. But if you have the CSS of that light theme, maybe we can use the same colours in the current Citizen based theme? -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
For the "light" version, I was aiming towards the cream color, to mimic the paperwork in the series. We had something like that for the "Case Orange" update blog back in the day. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

SSL certificates

Hi Joe,
Hope you're fine. There is an issue with the SSL certificates on all Battlestar wikis and Buck Wiki. It says that they are not valid anymore and block the page's loading. Is it possible to update the certificates so no warning message appears ? Thank you very much. Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 10:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

This is remedied now. Thank you! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:58, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Joe,
The SSL certificates have expired again, preventing images from loading on all pages. Sorry to bring bad news as a greeting! I really love this site, so, thank you for creating and maintaining it. I hope you are doing well! --Allatariel (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Greetings! They've just been renewed, and I'm working on some server updates to boot. Hope you are doing well too, and thank you for your support! :-) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 17:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
FYI. The mobile version is showing some insecure content warnings. -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Interesting. Anything specific so I can try to replicate to remedy? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Images

I can't see any images on the website.

This is remedied now. Thank you! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:57, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Caprica fonts on German site

Hi Joe,
I hope you're fine. Is it possible please to add the two "Caprica" fonts on the German wiki root directory? It is already configured to have them, so it will appears as soon you import them. Thanks a lot! Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 20:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Will do! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 02:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Old WikiFrakr content and other language wikis

WiiFrakr had some fantastic and hilarious content back in the day. Sadly this was lost in time. Is there a way to restore those pages back if a backup is available? Maybe instead of a separate sub-wiki, those pages can live under a namespace on the English Wiki. Similarly, the other language wikis which existed are lost. Is it possible to restore them too? -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I believe a backup is available, but I haven't gotten to it, as I haven't prioritized it. As to the other language wikis, I don't believe there was much in the way of content, beyond the German and French versions that were restored. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply