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== Known Marines ==
Sgt Fischer should be added to the list.  He first appears in the season premiere of Season 2 and is the Sergeant of the Guard who orders two marines to haul Boomer away after shooting Adama.   
Sgt Fischer should be added to the list.  He first appears in the season premiere of Season 2 and is the Sergeant of the Guard who orders two marines to haul Boomer away after shooting Adama.   
In the credits of Final Cut he is refered to as 'Marine Sgt. Fischer'.
In the credits of Final Cut he is refered to as 'Marine Sgt. Fischer'.




I'm going to go ahead and add the names of the black-suited soldiers from 'Scattered' and 'Valley of Darkness'.  [[User:Ltcrashdown|Ltcrashdown]]  December 23, 2005
I'm going to go ahead and add the names of the black-suited soldiers from 'Scattered' and 'Valley of Darkness'.  Ltcrashdown  December 23, 2005
 
 
Added "Corporal" link to "Venner" name.  Lordmutt - 10 February, 2006
 
 
Ahem why did someone add the Marines from Rising Star as dead? it's conjecture that they're dead as the episode hasn't aired yet..
 
 
Actually... [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 23:33, 10 February 2006 (EST)
:It concluded its east-coast airdate half an hour ago. Lordmutt, please sign your comments using <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki>. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 23:34, 10 February 2006 (EST)
 
Apologies, thought it didn't air for another 2 days - [[user:lordmutt|Lordmutt]]
 
== Marine Weapons ==
What about the [[Wikipedia:Beretta Cx4 Storm|Beretta CX4 Storm carbine]]? I think the Marine that stopped Roslin (then let her go) when she was escaping had one. It's interesting that they took the trouble to apparently fabricate those strange wooden-handled pistols, but used existing submachine guns. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:42, 20 January 2006 (EST)
:And I must say, and excellent recent edit, Spencerian. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 18:45, 20 January 2006 (EST)
Thanks for changing the Five-seveN to a sidearm, I forgot. To answer your question, the CMC used them in Valley of Darkness. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 17:23, 25 January 2006 (EST)
 
In Lay Down Your Burden Part two, the marines on Caprica were using a H&K G36c, the Protecta shotgun, that's the one with the drum mag that sharon valerri used in Home part one, and Anders was using a H&K UMP. Did i get it right?
:Most of the Marines are still carrying Cx4s but Starbuck carries a G-36K. The C model has a flat Picatinny rail instead of the integrated scope like the gun Thrace uses. [http://world.guns.ru/assault/as14-e.htm G-36]. Anders still has his UMP which he's had from the beginning. Helo carries a Protecta and I swear I saw a Neostead being carried by a resistance member. The gun Sharon carries in Home may look like a shotgun (don't have a pic right now) but it definately shot like a grenade launcher. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:47, 13 March 2006 (CST)
::I believe (well, assumed) the Protecta was just being used as a stand-in for a grenade launcher. Has one ever fired shot on the show? --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:42, 14 March 2006 (CST)
:::That's what I figured. Do you mean shot as a shotgun or as a grenade launcher. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 08:45, 14 March 2006 (CST)
::::I believe it was fired as a grenade launcher back in Home. I don't recall it ever being fired as a shotgun. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:47, 14 March 2006 (CST)
:::::You're right about the Home shot, I just couldn't think of it being fired as a shotgun. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 10:24, 14 March 2006 (CST)
::::I meant fired [[Wikipedia:Lead shot|shot]], as in the small metal objects propelled from a shotgun (or a cannon or whatever). Upon reflection, I guess it looks like I typoed "fired a shot." --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 00:20, 15 March 2006 (CST)
 
== Marine Gear ==
I '''''think''''' I nailed the Combat Vest. I stuck my SWAT -trained friends onto it, and they came back with these models, given their telltale snap-&-velcro attachment system. It's more than likely that the costume department dealt with the manufacturer to get un-armored versions on the cheap. The goggles, too, are quite inexpensive.
 
I did some research an i'm pretty certain that the tac vests worn by the marine's are actually a variaent of the MilSpex SWAT Tactical Vest. It has movable puches and unlike the vests metioned in the actual article, the vests are fairly inexpesive running at about $50 a vest. -SWATGUY-
 
There's also something worth discussing about their uniforms, especially after viewing the two most recent episodes (the Lay Down Your Burdens). I'll post that over at [[Talk:Uniform]] -- [[User:Hawke|Hawke]] 12:58, 15 March 2006 (CST)
 
They also to appear very close to Safariland's Cover Six Plus. I do think they are discontinued though. [[User:Panther|Panther]] 22:46, 17 August 2006 (CDT)
 
:The costume lead for the show has had serious problems in sufficient materials to make the [[flight suit]] as well as the day officers uniform as they prefer to use exotic fabric types. I wouldn't be surprised if the marine outfits use uncommon vests and other items to ensure that they are similar to Earth stuff, but are unfamilar enough to make it seem cool. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:52, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
 
==Marine Officer==
 
I believe that in 1x08, before interrogating Leoben, Kara Thrace is having a dicussion with a marine officer. If not, there is some variety of previously unseen uniform there. [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 20:53, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:No, that's the captain of the Gemenon Traveler. They didn't bother moving Leoben to Galactica as that would be too dangerous and they didn't have time, so all those scenes actually occur on the Gemenon Traveller.  Starbuck also makes various asides saying they aren't on Galactica.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 00:40, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
::Ah, ok. I was only half watching. [[User:Kkimball|Kkimball]] 16:16, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
 
==Names of The Eye of Jupiter marines==
Has anyone heard/seen in CC the names of the 3 marines that were with Starbuck and Dualla except [[Fischer]]? [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 17:36, 16 December 2006 (CST)
 
==Split==
Should this page be split up to create a new page ''List of Marines'' in the similar line as the [[List of pilots|pilots]] and [[List of deckhands|deckhands]] pages? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 09:10, 19 December 2006 (CST)
:I'm not sure. Notice that there are no [[deckhand]] or [[pilot]] pages, only lists. [[User:Ausir|Ausir]] 04:14, 22 December 2006 (CST)
 
==Sources==
What is the source or reference for referring to the Colonial Marines as a 'Corps?'  I'm not saying there isn't one, I just don't recall hearing it.  The mere fact that the Colonial Fleet has marines does not necessarily mean they are organized as a corps as is the case in the U.S.  -- [[User:Monupics|Monupics]] 00:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:41, 11 April 2020

Known Marines

Sgt Fischer should be added to the list. He first appears in the season premiere of Season 2 and is the Sergeant of the Guard who orders two marines to haul Boomer away after shooting Adama. In the credits of Final Cut he is refered to as 'Marine Sgt. Fischer'.


I'm going to go ahead and add the names of the black-suited soldiers from 'Scattered' and 'Valley of Darkness'. Ltcrashdown December 23, 2005


Added "Corporal" link to "Venner" name. Lordmutt - 10 February, 2006


Ahem why did someone add the Marines from Rising Star as dead? it's conjecture that they're dead as the episode hasn't aired yet..


Actually... Kkimball 23:33, 10 February 2006 (EST)

It concluded its east-coast airdate half an hour ago. Lordmutt, please sign your comments using --~~~~. --April Arcus 23:34, 10 February 2006 (EST)

Apologies, thought it didn't air for another 2 days - Lordmutt

Marine Weapons

What about the Beretta CX4 Storm carbine? I think the Marine that stopped Roslin (then let her go) when she was escaping had one. It's interesting that they took the trouble to apparently fabricate those strange wooden-handled pistols, but used existing submachine guns. --Steelviper 17:42, 20 January 2006 (EST)

And I must say, and excellent recent edit, Spencerian. --Ricimer 18:45, 20 January 2006 (EST)

Thanks for changing the Five-seveN to a sidearm, I forgot. To answer your question, the CMC used them in Valley of Darkness. --Talos 17:23, 25 January 2006 (EST)

In Lay Down Your Burden Part two, the marines on Caprica were using a H&K G36c, the Protecta shotgun, that's the one with the drum mag that sharon valerri used in Home part one, and Anders was using a H&K UMP. Did i get it right?

Most of the Marines are still carrying Cx4s but Starbuck carries a G-36K. The C model has a flat Picatinny rail instead of the integrated scope like the gun Thrace uses. G-36. Anders still has his UMP which he's had from the beginning. Helo carries a Protecta and I swear I saw a Neostead being carried by a resistance member. The gun Sharon carries in Home may look like a shotgun (don't have a pic right now) but it definately shot like a grenade launcher. --Talos 10:47, 13 March 2006 (CST)
I believe (well, assumed) the Protecta was just being used as a stand-in for a grenade launcher. Has one ever fired shot on the show? --CalculatinAvatar 02:42, 14 March 2006 (CST)
That's what I figured. Do you mean shot as a shotgun or as a grenade launcher. --Talos 08:45, 14 March 2006 (CST)
I believe it was fired as a grenade launcher back in Home. I don't recall it ever being fired as a shotgun. --Steelviper 08:47, 14 March 2006 (CST)
You're right about the Home shot, I just couldn't think of it being fired as a shotgun. --Talos 10:24, 14 March 2006 (CST)
I meant fired shot, as in the small metal objects propelled from a shotgun (or a cannon or whatever). Upon reflection, I guess it looks like I typoed "fired a shot." --CalculatinAvatar 00:20, 15 March 2006 (CST)

Marine Gear

I think I nailed the Combat Vest. I stuck my SWAT -trained friends onto it, and they came back with these models, given their telltale snap-&-velcro attachment system. It's more than likely that the costume department dealt with the manufacturer to get un-armored versions on the cheap. The goggles, too, are quite inexpensive.

I did some research an i'm pretty certain that the tac vests worn by the marine's are actually a variaent of the MilSpex SWAT Tactical Vest. It has movable puches and unlike the vests metioned in the actual article, the vests are fairly inexpesive running at about $50 a vest. -SWATGUY-

There's also something worth discussing about their uniforms, especially after viewing the two most recent episodes (the Lay Down Your Burdens). I'll post that over at Talk:Uniform -- Hawke 12:58, 15 March 2006 (CST)

They also to appear very close to Safariland's Cover Six Plus. I do think they are discontinued though. Panther 22:46, 17 August 2006 (CDT)

The costume lead for the show has had serious problems in sufficient materials to make the flight suit as well as the day officers uniform as they prefer to use exotic fabric types. I wouldn't be surprised if the marine outfits use uncommon vests and other items to ensure that they are similar to Earth stuff, but are unfamilar enough to make it seem cool. --Spencerian 15:52, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

Marine Officer

I believe that in 1x08, before interrogating Leoben, Kara Thrace is having a dicussion with a marine officer. If not, there is some variety of previously unseen uniform there. Kkimball 20:53, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

No, that's the captain of the Gemenon Traveler. They didn't bother moving Leoben to Galactica as that would be too dangerous and they didn't have time, so all those scenes actually occur on the Gemenon Traveller. Starbuck also makes various asides saying they aren't on Galactica. --The Merovingian (C - E) 00:40, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
Ah, ok. I was only half watching. Kkimball 16:16, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

Names of The Eye of Jupiter marines

Has anyone heard/seen in CC the names of the 3 marines that were with Starbuck and Dualla except Fischer? Ausir 17:36, 16 December 2006 (CST)

Split

Should this page be split up to create a new page List of Marines in the similar line as the pilots and deckhands pages? --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 09:10, 19 December 2006 (CST)

I'm not sure. Notice that there are no deckhand or pilot pages, only lists. Ausir 04:14, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Sources

What is the source or reference for referring to the Colonial Marines as a 'Corps?' I'm not saying there isn't one, I just don't recall hearing it. The mere fact that the Colonial Fleet has marines does not necessarily mean they are organized as a corps as is the case in the U.S. -- Monupics 00:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)Reply