Talk:The Eye of Jupiter/Archive2

Missile Tubes[edit]

Where exactly are they and shouldnt that be an article in "Galactica Areas" Snorkel378

They are located on the dorsal side of the ship, slightly forward of the four guns ahead of the Colonial seal, and sit in two rows of six. And sure, why not create an article in that section? -Madbrood 19:12, 29 December 2006 (CST)

More Nested Analysis[edit]

The tylium planned for the mines could only come from their single Raptor. This supports the high energy yield of the fuel that, at the same time, would not sacrifice the Raptor's flight ability.
- It's also possible that the tylium used was fuel stored at the camp to power its generators and/or refuel the Raptors and other ships involved in the harvest.

Please resolve these into either one or two single-level bullets, then re-add to the article. --Steelviper 09:56, 21 December 2006 (CST)

Done. I also updated the nuke count in this section. Admiral Adama orders launch tubes four through ten loaded, which means he's prepared seven nuclear warheads, not six. --Slander 09:05, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Nicely done. Thanks! --Steelviper 09:51, 22 December 2006 (CST)

Major Point: Note that Hera is the wife of Roman God Jupiter, the derivative of the Greek Zeus. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PhoenixFlight (talk • contribs).

Yes, Hera's counterpart in the Roman pantheon is Juno. The association is noted over many episodes to date. --Spencerian 14:22, 6 January 2007 (CST)

Playing with the date?[edit]

In Kobol's Last Gleaming, they stated the ruins on Kobol were 2000 years old, "around the time of the exodus of the 13 tribes". When they found the beacon at the Lion's Head Nebula, they said it was 3000 years old, and now they're saying the Temple of Five is at least 4000 years old. Each time they give a new date a thousand years earlier, it seems to still coincide with the exodus date of the thirteenth tribe.

Am I the only one noticing this inconsistancy?

My memory may be off, but I was under the impression that the 13th tribe left Kobol long before the other twelve. So... maybe the 13th tribe left 4k years ago, and the rest left 2k years later. Fanwankery? Spotty memory on my part? --Drumstick 02:08, 25 December 2006 (CST)

Both, sort of. The date in "Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I" refers to all thirteen tribes collectively. In "A Measure of Salvation" and "The Eye of Jupiter", they refer to the thirteenth tribe alone.

Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I

Roslin: How old are the ruins?

Billy: We won't know for sure until they send a ground team, but the initial estimates have it on the order of approximately 2,000 years.

Elosha: That's around the time the thirteen tribes first left Kobol

A Measure of Salvation

Adama: According to Cottle, the virus was an exact match to one reported over 3,000 years ago. Right around the time that the Thirteenth Colony left Kobol.

The Eye of Jupiter

Tyrol: Our initial radiocarbon dating suggests that the temple's at least 4,000 years old, which lines up with the exodus of the Thirteenth Tribe.

--April Arcus 03:16, 26 December 2006 (CST)

Here's a thought. What if this isn't an accident? We've speculated already that humanity might have emigrated from Earth to Kobol before the thirteenth tribe returned. If the further away from Kobol we get, the older the artifacts we find, what does that tell us? That the thirteenth tribe was traveling not from Kobol to Earth, but from Earth to Kobol. --April Arcus 06:03, 28 December 2006 (CST)

Well, it may not be an accident, but the Colonials seem to think that the 13th tribe left Kobol for Earth. So why, upon finding that the artifacts get older as they journey further from Kobol/closer to Earth, would they conclude that the dating analysis confirms their scriptures? Put another way, if they dates say the tribe went from Earth to Kobol, but the scriptures say they went from Kobol to Earth, why aren't the Colonials confused? It's an interesting idea, nonetheless. --Drumstick 19:29, 31 December 2006 (CST)

Okay, it could also be that we're giving the Colonials too much credit in their dating. Elosha is a priest. Maybe her date of 2,000 is based on scripture, not fact. Also, the date of 4,000 could just mean that it predates the time that they knew the other 12 colonies left Kobol, thus it had to be built by the 13th tribe. The 13th tribe may have had outposts all throughout the galaxy while still calling Kobol home. Furthermore, since there are apparently 21,000 years of recorded history, maybe to the Colonials a few thousand years of inaccuracy in dating don't really make a difference. You could compare it to modern day humans who confuse the 15th and 16th centuries. Of course, now I'm fully in the territory of fanwanking/making up excuses. The seven months/nine months disparity with regard to the Colonial election was never even acknowledged, so there is a good possibility these inconsistent dates are just a product of sloppiness. --Drumstick 19:40, 31 December 2006 (CST)

Nut we Don't know how long it took to get everyone from earth off of kobol because it would take awhile to get huge civilizations away from a planet.Snorkel378

Dichotomy of Signs to Earth[edit]

I find it rather interesting that the first real sign to Earth that they found was a satellite/probe (first found by the Cylons). This would represent the high tech sign-post to Earth. The second sign to Earth is this hidden "Temple of Five" which is plainly a spiritual sign. Anyone else thing this is very interesting? I wonder what was on the satellite. Too bad RDM didn't allow them to examine it. Bstone 21:57, 26 December 2006 (CST)

The G-4[edit]

Hey how come in the summary it doesnt mention the G-4 about to go off right by Tyrol? Snorkel378

Unaware how events are escalating around and above him, Chief Tyrol illuminates the carved writings of the Temple with his flashlight and reads the inscriptions, trying to locate the actual resting place of the Eye. At one point, his flashlight's beam moves close to the target-shaped symbol in the center of the central spire.

How about we make that:

Having strapped explosives to the central spire of the temple, Chief Tyrol...

--Catrope 06:17, 31 December 2006 (CST)

No I mean the activation light on 1 of the explosives is blinking which means it is going to detonate.The article does not mention that. Snorkel378

There is nothing to suggest that the blinking lights don't simply mean that it is armed rather than about to explode. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)}

Yes but the music can easily tell u what is happening and it has a danger coming sound to it-Snorkel378

Thats fanwanking. We have seen nothing to suggest that the explosives are about to detonate. All we know is that the explosives are armed and the flashing light could simply be to note that fact. You may very well be right but so far there has been no aired information to say that you are and until the next episode airs we wont know. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 03:24, 3 January 2007 (CST)

You are right I geuss im some crazy kid huh :) Snorkel378

The explosives set by Tyrol and Anders in Occupation have a light that blinks, but the explosives only go off when the detonator is activated. The light is in no way indicative of and impending explosion -Madbrood 15:51, 12 January 2007 (CST)

Last name in the credits[edit]

Okay, after a month, I think I finally found the last remaining actor/character in the closing credits. Thanks to the inane sense of necessity in scrunching the credits (so they can apparently advertise the same things they do 23 times a day in normal commerical airtime) I was unable to read the last name, getting the first two through squinting and deduction. I skimmed one last time and believe I found the last, unreadable name. According to this site it's Tygh Runyan as Pvt. Byers. I looked at the guy at IMDb and although he's not given the credit (no surprise), he can be spotted in the episode. Even Tv.Yahoo, a considerably more reliable source, has him listed (sans character name). Any disagreement in adding him? I'm sure someone here has clear visual access to the credit, but I'm going through a consensus since it hasn't been added by said "someone". --Mars 00:04, 16 January 2007 (CST)

Do you have a screenshot for us to look at? Might be best to wait for it to air in HD then it will be much clearer. Alternatively ask on the Battlestar Wiki:Official Communiques page. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 03:27, 16 January 2007 (CST)

TYoJ Will be airing in HD over here in a few weeks, not sure about America though. MatthewFenton 03:32, 16 January 2007 (CST)

I have the iTunes copy of this: I've confirmed the same names and spelling. Do we know where he is (on the planet?). That would be enough to make a stub. --Spencerian 09:23, 16 January 2007 (CST)

I've only spotted him in one scene. It's at the start of Act 4 when Anders is dividing them up into two teams. He is among those Sam is talking to, wearing a cap and at one point, he's given an entire frame (with Anders' shoulder in the foreground). He appears mainly in a shot where he is at the very left, with Lee, Barolay, and Anders to his right. I hope that paints a good enough picture since I'm unable to get a screencap. --Mars 13:59, 16 January 2007 (CST)