Battlestar Wiki talk:Think Tank/Move Squad

Suggestion: Automatically confer move priveleges on registered users after 100 edits? --April Arcus 12:50, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

I like that idea --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 13:44, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

100 "usefull" edits. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 14:22, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

Ugh. I'm loathe to count up individual edits to determine "usefullness". If by "useful", you mean non-spam/vandalism I would agree (although hopefully they'd be blocked long before they hit 100). --Steelviper 14:25, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

Yes. Let us say "100 non-vandal edits". I don't know how we'd even define useful. Fixing a single typo is useful, especially if they fixed a single typo in 100 different articles. That's a lot of proof-reading. And that's a minor edit. As long as we're not looking at 100 edits to link Canadian drugs or whatever, I think we're in the clear. --Day ^{(Talk - Admin)} 15:40, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

Let's not be too picky with the criteria here. 100 non-vandal edits should suffice. Obviously, we should probably make use of the {{move}} template and appropriate categories for users under the 100 edit mark, so new users can suggest moves. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 18:09, 12 July 2006 (CDT)

LocalSettings.php Settings

$wgGroupPermissions['trusted']['move'] = true;

Final?

If there are no other objections, comments, or concerns regarding this, I would like to get this rolling. Please comment within the next 2 days, thank you. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 14:52, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

Support Sounds good to me :) --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 17:03, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

We're "go" here. --Spencerian 17:10, 17 July 2006 (CDT)

Support I'm just gonna vote. I'll re-vote if this dosen't count. Mayber we can call this a two-day voting period in which people can still debate/call for delay/change their votes? Or is there intended to be a longer such period following the two days mentioned by Joe? --Day ^{(Talk - Admin - SotS)} 00:21, 18 July 2006 (CDT)

Support granting move privs to users after 100 edits. Suggest also considering a 2-3 day minimum registration period. --April Arcus 14:56, 20 July 2006 (CDT)

Support Privs to the people! I'm not sure what kind of "restrictions" are easily coded, but April's suggestions sound reasonable. (Avoids granting move privs to highly productive vandals, and gives admins a day or two window to block them). --Steelviper 15:03, 20 July 2006 (CDT)

Oppose I think we should confer Move ability on a case by case basis: remember when that troll moved 300 things in the space of 3 hours? An automatic spam bot could easily gain 100 edits within say 30 minuts, and for another 2 hours move 500 things around (supposing they time this at the dead of night when we're not around and international users like Mercifull are busy); the results would be disasterous. I am rather in favor of the Administrators confering this (liberally) to new users who are obviously not spammers. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 09:16, 21 July 2006 (CDT)

Comment:I think that reasoning may have driven the 2-3 day "waiting period" that April mentioned.Steelviper 09:32, 21 July 2006 (CDT)

Yes, that was what I had in mind. --April Arcus 20:21, 22 July 2006 (CDT)

Oh okay, yeah with a waiting period Support --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 22:09, 22 July 2006 (CDT)

Support I am fine with granting this to people with over 100 edits and a two to three day waiting period. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 20:25, 22 July 2006 (CDT)

Support Once you update the wiki, you should be able to add this to the localsetting.php with ease. --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 02:25, 23 July 2006 (CDT)

Finalized

I've finalized this. The page can be located at Battlestar Wiki:Page Moves (or at the BW:MOVE shortcut). As it is almost 4 in the morning, I am off to sleep and might have missed something. So if anyone has any issues, feel free to correct them or let me know. Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 02:53, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Autoconfirmed

I know this is an ancient discussion, but I'd like to point out that it's technically possible (that's different from advisable) to automatically grant move privileges to users who have made X edits, and/or have registered X days ago. Wikipedia does this as well (accounts older than 4 days get move privileges), and also protects some pages like w:George Bush this way (only accounts older than 4 days can edit it). What I'm saying here is that it's possible to auto-assign move rights to (using examples from earlier discussion) anyone who has 100 edits and has registered at least 3 days ago.

The real question of course is whether we want this. A spambot could potentially register, lay low for 3 days, make 100 edits quickly and then start moving stuff around. The bright side is that when MediaWiki 1.12 is released, I'll be able to write up a simple bot that automatically reverts all actions by a certain user, edits and moves alike. Additionally, 1.12 will allow for throwing a confirmed e-mail address into the mix (i.e. allow move for any account older than 3 days AND with more than 100 edits AND with a confirmed e-mail address). In 1.11 (the current version), it's either/or (either the age+editcount combi, or a confirmed e-mail address).

Clarification of title: the lines to enable this in LocalSettings.php are

$wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['move'] = true;
$wgAutoConfirmAge = 3600*24 * 3; // 3 days
$wgAutoConfirmCount = 100;

Thoughts? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 10:43, 3 January 2008 (CST)

I wouldn't be adverse to trying this out, once 1.12 comes out and your bot is completed. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 11:02, 3 January 2008 (CST)