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Sciffy Thread

I reported your discovery here. I gave you credit for the find, of course, and hoped that the extra eyes on the subject might help shed some light on the "other" ship. --Steelviper 21:16, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Excellent. The more eyes on it, the better. Seven letters appear to be the key, so Olympus is possible. I haven't used my Sciffy account in months.... --Spencerian 08:02, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Units of Measure (TOS)

Argh, I hate edit conflicts! Was working on that one at the same time you were. :) JubalHarshaw 12:23, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Sorry about that! You have the same thoughts as I do; merging like content that otherwise make articles that are too general and not wiki-specific. I'm working on Squadrons of Galactica right now. --Spencerian 12:44, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Guyle Fraizer as Colonial One co-pilot

Hi there, my source for that is actually that I know Guyle personally (and yes, the one you found on the IMDB is the right one, I'm apparently just an idiot and spelled his name wrong), and he and I talked about it a few times. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zeppo (talk • contribs).

A Comment From Mrs. Ron

Terry Dresbach, a.k.a, "Mrs. Ron" on the Skiffy boards, appreciated my comments on Battlestar's wrap-up season. Given the many messages in this fast-growing thread, I'm humbled that she noticed it. Her response sums up everything that I loved about the new series. It has given us a great ride, and so long as Ron has a stogie and scotch handy, we'll see more good things from him. --Spencerian 10:33, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree. It would be nice to go on, but in the long run it's better to end it on a high point. The main thing I'm disappointed about is that the rest of the show will probably revolve around the search for Earth and the Final Five. Which are far from my favorite themes in the show. I initially liked that it placed character over story and that seems to have changed. But I digress.

Anyways, I'm indifferent to the usual fan outrage as well these days, and even distanced myself a bit from message boards where constant whining seems to be the norm. When an outstanding show really hasn't been give a chance, I can get behind campaigns and be sad, but a three-hour miniseries, 4 seasons and a TV movie are really more than fair these days. If people want to think that the show was directly canceled by the network that is, as usual, to be expected; I'm willing to give the producers the benefit of the doubt. --Serenity 11:18, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Whining is the norm everywhere (except here) at this point, dude --BklynBruzer 12:38, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I don't provide any cheese for all that whine, myself. I'm glad that we're not (yet) seeing a spike because of the news, but that may change. --Spencerian 14:28, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Your comments were great, Spencerian. It basically sums up how I feel. Personally, any time I see a worthwhile TV show survive the dreaded "Firefly" 1 season curse, I smile. Haters will complain about whatever is available; if a show ends, they'll cry about that - if it continues and "doesn't live up", they'll cry about that. Misery loves company. Just another reason to avoid forums. I'd rather be here doing something constructive. JubalHarshaw 14:45, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Agreed. This place is much more fun. And there is so many roads to go in finding Earth. There is going to be a meeting of minds (and maybe more) in what the Cylons and Colonials truly mean to each other. And it may even leave the story just a little open for a backstory. Just my opinion, but You Heard It Here First. :) Terry notes that, in her opinion, Caprica will not make it. But there are so many shows that could use a "re-imagining". As one Slashdot writer said about Ron's abilities: "If I heard he was going to re-imagine The Phone Book, I'd watch it." --Spencerian 14:52, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

That's what I was thinking too: Ron and his people have made one hell of a name for themselves, if they decide to start another project, Sci Fi will happily accept it. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 05:58, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

How about this? --BklynBruzer 08:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I guess that depends on how S4 is gonna end. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 09:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I am honestly happy to say that I'm pleased with this announcement, and I'm glad that your comments were appreciated by the right people. ;-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 14:56, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the welcome :)

Hey, thanks for the welcome, glad you liked my site :) (even if it badly needs rewriting from scratch...) and yep, my aspergersish pedantism about detail would just not let me leave the page on accents saying Aerilon accent was "diluted northern english" when it was a Yorkshire accent (got one or two friends living there), so that's why I created an account! Oh, and happy birthday!!! :) take care, Marianne 10:18, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

INTJ

First, happy birthday! Second, my wife just took the myers-briggs yesterday (during her residency orientation), and came out INTJ. I took it in college for a software engineering class (and maybe again in ROTC) and came out INTP. The J, though, will come into play at a later date. (This won't make sense until later, but being a wiki... this is not that unusual.) --Steelviper 13:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy birthday! I am seriously considering adding a jungtype= field to Template:User Data, seriously. Doing the test myself as well, 102 questions take some time though. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:51, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy birthday! -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:48, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks, everyone! I tried to do something other than the wiki to celebrate... --Spencerian 09:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Y'all have got me curious now about this test. Is there a place I can take it online? --BklynBruzer 09:29, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Sure. The Myers-Briggs-based test is here. The morality test is here (both links are from Marianne's home page). On a side note, my test was given professionally many years ago, so I'm more apt to continue noting my INTJ class than any that are generated here. --Spencerian 09:43, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy late B-Day! I was away for a while. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 16:08, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

For the record, I'm an ISTP. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

ENTJ here. That's it, I'm definitely gonna do the jungtype field tomorrow. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 16:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

ESTP. --BklynBruzer 17:32, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

WTLFM (Way to long for me). :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 19:48, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Interesting one. In other words, you scored RGDL? --BklynBruzer 20:04, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

The INTJs can take solace in that, if he were real, Gandalf would be an INTJ, and that worked out pretty well for him. :) My scores keep oscillating between INTP, ISTP and INTJ. I like being weird as an INTJ, frankly. I just don't want everyone else to know about it. :/ --Spencerian 10:47, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

Question about commas

I noticed some weird comma placement in your edits. You always write things "In the episode, "Downloaded",..."

Why is there a comma in front of the episode title? Is this some specific grammar rule I don't know about? Because to me it doesn't make any sense to put a comma there. It isn't a separate sentence part and there shouldn't be a pause there. Neither is the episode title a parenthesis, since the sentence doesn't make sense without it :) --Serenity 05:28, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

You're right...it's likely a mental thing. I should write it "In the episode "Downloaded", there was this thing." I suspect I write it that way because episode titles "throw off" the grammar of the sentence when I read them, although they are names and are just objects of the sentence. As a result, I put in a pause to mentally set off the title to prevent confusing it as a element that forms the message of the sentence. It's like this example.

In the episode "You Should Have Watched Yesterday", Tom dies."

The quotations are supposed to set the episode apart, but it never works for me. Not that I should go and reinvent English grammar, however. I'll work my way out of the two-comma habit. --Spencerian 13:20, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Ah ok. That makes some sense. It wasn't meant as huge criticism and you don't have to go around changing everything. Just something I noticed and wondered about. --Serenity 13:25, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

By the way, I think commas go inside quotes --BklynBruzer 21:54, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

For episodes, I think any punctuation goes outside the quotes/parenthesis unless separating more than one episode. --Veepz 22:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, generally we use American punctuation, though personally I hate it, since it doesn't make sense either. But we decided to make an exception for episode titles, since they aren't really quotes. It just looks bad to put the punctuation inside in that case. --Serenity 05:17, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

I'm having a strange sense of de'ja vu. I just got used to putting punctuation OUTSIDE of quotes after the change. If this is a serious point, let's move it back to BW:SAC. I think we're nitpicking...we just need to be consistent, at least in any one article. --Spencerian 12:34, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

User Image

Best one so far! :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 11:02, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

And not one bit of Photoshop! Note the squeegee! --Spencerian 11:52, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

yay! ya.. i noticed that the first time around. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 12:04, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

So sorry...

It was a good game. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 15:19, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Well, can't have everything. I'm rooting for the Packers. They always have heart and deserve it. --Spencerian 17:54, 13 January 2008 (CST)

The NFC game will be interesting. Friends here @ work are putting NYG over GB 3 to 1, however, both teams are evenly match. One is good at passing, the other running. Both play in snow, cold weather. The SD v. Pats game is a joke. SD should forfeit now. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 23:03, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Proud Cheesehead, here! It'll be interesting to see the looks I get from my fellow New Yorkers while I wear my Packers paraphernalia. --BklynBruzer 09:08, 14 January 2008 (CST)

Matrix etc. :)

http://battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=4381&postcount=7 ... Look @ 217kb image. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 02:31, 25 January 2008 (CST)

Thriller?

My sources tell me that you perform a mean "Thriller" dance... Have an interesting story behind that? :D -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 05:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, no. It almost makes me happy that I can't go to DragonCon this year. Mind you, dancing in a deckhand jumpsuit is intimidating enough, not to mention hot. But wait a minute...did I dance to that song? All that alcohol make things so blurry... :) --Spencerian 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

hahah! Shane (talk) 16:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Recent problems

Hey again, Spencerian--I hope you are well. About a month ago, you said that the wiki would be going to a standby mode or something (I don't remember the details and I can't check them because every attempt to access my talk page results in an error message). Do you know if the recent problems (main page and inability to edit a few other pages plus the aforementioned talk page, in addition to ongoing French and German site issues) are related to this "standby mode"? Are they continuations of older problems? Anything you can do to shed light on this would help. Thanks, and happy holidays! -- BlueResistance 19:27, 13 December 2014 (EST)

Hello Spencerian! Sorry I didn't see your message on my talk page literally years ago, but thanks for the message. I do check in here every so often. That the wiki is still online makes me happy and almost unbearable nostalgic for times past. I suppose I should ask Joe what might be needed to help keep this online as I'm Facebook friends with him. I hope all is well with you and yours! JubalHarshaw 21:55, 14 February 2016 (EST)

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 ''For discussions prior to December 18, 2006, [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=93841 click here.]''
-==Updated User Page==
+''For discussions prior to May 9, 2007,
-I stole my revised article design from Mercifull, and is living proof that I can't wiki code worth a damn. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 21:04, 19 December 2006 (CST)
+[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=121460 click here.]
-:He stole the design from me. Joe stole it from him. lol. Been going around. heh. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:14, 19 December 2006 (CST)
-::It continues the rounds; I've "borrowed" now. =) [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 23:04, 12 January 2007 (CST)
-==Response to EoJ Reversion==
+== Sciffy Thread ==
+I reported your discovery [http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2275066 here]. I gave you credit for the find, of course, and hoped that the extra eyes on the subject might help shed some light on the "other" ship. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:16, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
+:Excellent. The more eyes on it, the better. Seven letters appear to be the key, so Olympus is possible. I haven't used my Sciffy account in months.... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:02, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
-Hi, just wanted to drop a quick line regarding the rollback to the article summary.  I posted a comment regarding it on the Talk page, but wanted to say that as it was written, it seems too narrative.  Granted, my changes may have confused readers, but I feel it needs to be consolidated.  What do you think? --[[User:Sgtpayne|Sgtpayne]] 12:26, 20 December 2006 (CST) <sup>([[User_Talk:Sgtpayne|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sgtpayne|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Sgtpayne|E]])</sup>
+==Units of Measure (TOS)==
+Argh, I hate edit conflicts! Was working on that one at the same time you were. :)   [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 12:23, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
+:Sorry about that! You have the same thoughts as I do; merging like content that otherwise make articles that are too general and not wiki-specific. I'm working on [[Squadrons of Galactica]] right now. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:44, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
-:Shane had a good idea. We could break it up into acts (commercial breaks) but we should keep the relative order. I'll give that a try if someone hasn't done so; I have the episode downloaded. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:03, 20 December 2006 (CST)
+== Guyle Fraizer as Colonial One co-pilot ==
+Hi there, my source for that is actually that I know Guyle personally (and yes, the one you found on the IMDB is the right one, I'm apparently just an idiot and spelled his name wrong), and he and I talked about it a few times.  :) {{unsigned|Zeppo}}
-==Response from Meteor==
+== A Comment From Mrs. Ron ==
-Hi you added something to my talk page recently. I just rewatched the scene in Kobol's Last Gleaming part 1 where Elosha, Billy and Roslin discuss Kobol. Billy says the ruins on the planet are 2,000 years old. Elosha responds that this corresponds with when the 13 (not 12) colonies left Kobol.
-While I agree you're probably right about the 13th colony leaving for earth 3,600 years ago and the other 12 colonies only a mere 2,000 years I do think the article should reflect the fact that Elosha's comment is not entirely accurate. [[User:Meteor|Meteor]]
+[[Terry Dresbach]], a.k.a, "Mrs. Ron" on the Skiffy boards, appreciated [http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2276767&st=120 my comments] on ''Battlestar's'' wrap-up season. Given the many messages in this fast-growing thread, I'm humbled that she noticed it. Her response sums up everything that I loved about the new series. It has given us a great ride, and so long as Ron has a stogie and scotch handy, we'll see more good things from him. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:33, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:I agree. It would be nice to go on, but in the long run it's better to end it on a high point. The main thing I'm disappointed about is that the rest of the show will probably revolve around the search for Earth and the Final Five. Which are far from my favorite themes in the show. I initially liked that it placed character over story and that seems to have changed. But I digress.
+:Anyways, I'm indifferent to the usual fan outrage as well these days, and even distanced myself a bit from message boards where constant whining seems to be the norm. When an outstanding show really hasn't been give a chance, I can get behind campaigns and be sad, but a three-hour miniseries, 4 seasons and a TV movie are really more than fair these days. If people want to think that the show was directly canceled by the network that is, as usual, to be expected; I'm willing to give the producers the benefit of the doubt. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:18, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Whining is the norm everywhere (except here) at this point, dude --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:38, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::I don't provide any cheese for all that whine, myself. I'm glad that we're not (yet) seeing a spike because of the news, but that may change. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:28, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::Your comments were great, Spencerian. It basically sums up how I feel. Personally, any time I see a worthwhile TV show survive the dreaded "Firefly" 1 season curse, I smile. Haters will complain about whatever is available; if a show ends, they'll cry about that - if it continues and "doesn't live up", they'll cry about that. Misery loves company. Just another reason to avoid forums. I'd rather be here doing something constructive. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 14:45, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::Agreed. This place is much more fun. And there is so many roads to go in finding Earth. There is going to be a meeting of minds (and maybe more) in what the Cylons and Colonials truly mean to each other. And it may even leave the story just a little open for a backstory. Just my opinion, but You Heard It Here First. :) Terry notes that, in her opinion, ''Caprica'' will not make it. But there are so many shows that could use a "re-imagining". As one Slashdot writer said about Ron's abilities: "If I heard he was going to re-imagine ''The Phone Book'', I'd watch it." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:52, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::::That's what I was thinking too: Ron and his people have made one hell of a name for themselves, if they decide to start another project, Sci Fi will happily accept it. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 05:58, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::::[[Galactica 1980 (RDM)|How about this?]] --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::::::I guess that depends on how S4 is gonna end. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+: I am honestly happy to say that I'm pleased with this announcement, and I'm glad that your comments were appreciated by the right people. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 14:56, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
-== Response from MatthewFenton regarding clean up ==
+== Thanks for the welcome :) ==
-Hey. Responded at the talk page showing some concerns as to why I believe it needs a clean up - if you don't think it needs a clean up then feel free to remove the tag, I've shown my concerns at least, hopefully it can make the article better. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 17:39, 1 January 2007 (CST)
+Hey, thanks for the welcome, glad you liked my site :) (even if it badly needs rewriting from scratch...) and yep, my aspergersish pedantism about detail would just not let me leave the page on accents saying Aerilon accent was "diluted northern english" when it was a Yorkshire accent (got one or two friends living there), so that's why I created an account! Oh, and happy birthday!!! :) take care, [[User:Marianne|Marianne]] 10:18, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
-== Red Pill ==
+== INTJ ==
+First, happy birthday! Second, my wife just took the myers-briggs yesterday (during her residency orientation), and came out INTJ. I took it in college for a software engineering class (and maybe again in ROTC) and came out INTP. The J, though, will come into play at a later date. (This won't make sense until later, but being a wiki... this is not that unusual.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+:Happy birthday! I am seriously considering adding a <code>jungtype=</code> field to [[Template:User Data]], seriously. Doing the test myself as well, 102 questions take some time though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:51, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+:Happy birthday! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 16:48, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Thanks, everyone! I tried to do something other than the wiki to celebrate... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Y'all have got me curious now about this test. Is there a place I can take it online? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:29, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::Sure. The Myers-Briggs-based test is [http://similarminds.com/embj.html here]. The morality test is [http://www.outofservice.com/morality/ here] (both links are from Marianne's [http://xmoogle.org/me.html home page]). On a side note, my test was given professionally many years ago, so I'm more apt to continue noting my INTJ class than any that are generated here. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:43, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::Happy late B-Day! I was away for a while. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:08, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::: For the record, I'm an ISTP. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 16:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::ENTJ here. That's it, I'm definitely gonna do the jungtype field tomorrow. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::ESTP. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 17:32, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::WTLFM (Way to long for me). :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 19:48, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::Interesting one. In other words, you scored RGDL? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 20:04, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+The INTJs can take solace in that, if he were real, [[w:Gandalf|Gandalf]] would be an INTJ, and that worked out pretty well for him. :) My scores keep oscillating between INTP, ISTP and INTJ. I ''like'' being weird as an INTJ, frankly. I just don't want everyone else to know about it. :/ --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:47, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
-[[Battlestar_Wiki:Requests_for_bureaucratship/Spencerian|Follow the "Yellow" Link]] [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:46, 5 January 2007 (CST)
+== Question about commas ==
-:Strange... it's not yellow for me. (Monobook has either blue or pinkish). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:58, 5 January 2007 (CST)
-::Aww...this is very cool, one way or another. I'll fill it in a little later today. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:15, 5 January 2007 (CST)
-== Welcome, Young Padawan! ==
+I noticed some weird comma placement in your edits. You always write things "In the episode, "[[Downloaded]]",..."
-Congrats! Here's a [[w:Squeegee|Squeegee]], and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Bureaucrats|some pertinent reading material from Wikipedia]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:04, 13 January 2007 (CST)
+Why is there a comma ''in front'' of the episode title? Is this some specific grammar rule I don't know about? Because to me it doesn't make any sense to put a comma there. It isn't a separate sentence part and there shouldn't be a pause there. Neither is the episode title a parenthesis, since the sentence doesn't make sense without it :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:28, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-:Have we seen a [[Squeegee Boy]] in BSG yet? :-) Congrats Spenc! [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:07, 13 January 2007 (CST)
-::Congrats man, you've earned it. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 21:54, 13 January 2007 (CST)
-::: Congratulations ;-) [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:08, 14 January 2007 (CST)
-:::: Congratulations! --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 08:06, 14 January 2007 (CST)
-:::::Much obliged, everyone. Thanks. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:58, 14 January 2007 (CST)
-== Thanks ==
+:You're right...it's likely a mental thing. I should write it "In the episode "Downloaded", there was this thing." I suspect I write it that way because episode titles "throw off" the grammar of the sentence when I read them, although they are names and are just objects of the sentence. As a result, I put in a pause to mentally set off the title to prevent confusing it as a element that forms the message of the sentence. It's like this example.
-Just wanted to thank you for the advice you left on my talk page, next time I'll try not to jump the gun without better researching.--[[User:The One True Fred|The One True Fred]] 08:00, 26 January 2007 (CST)
+<blockquote>In the episode "You Should Have Watched Yesterday", Tom dies."</blockquote>
-:We've all done it before, but its not much of a learning curve. Once you know what's probably rumor and what's good, it only makes contributing and reading things here that much more intriguing. Don't let it sway your enthusiasm! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:05, 26 January 2007 (CST)
-== Howdy ==
+:The quotations are supposed to set the episode apart, but it never works for me. Not that I should go and reinvent English grammar, however. I'll work my way out of the two-comma habit. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:20, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-Are you a fan of the flying bikes of doom? [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 04:44, 27 January 2007 (CST)
+::Ah ok. That makes some sense. It wasn't meant as huge criticism and you don't have to go around changing everything. Just something I noticed and wondered about. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:25, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-:Um, I have no idea what that is. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:10, 27 January 2007 (CST)
-::"[[Flying motorcycle]]" I presume --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:12, 27 January 2007 (CST)
-::: Galactica 1980 :-P [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 08:22, 27 January 2007 (CST)
-::::Oh, lords, no. It's only ten episodes, but because of its horror I blame it for my social inadequacies in high school, my acne, the heartbreak of psoriasis and global warming. Who can I sue? Is that Oprah calling...? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:33, 27 January 2007 (CST)
-:::::Also, FYI, Dr. Phil on line 5. --[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 08:59, 27 January 2007 (CST)
-== The origin of mankind ==
+:::By the way, I think commas go inside quotes --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:54, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
+:::For episodes, I think any punctuation goes outside the quotes/parenthesis unless separating more than one episode. --[[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 22:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
+::::Yeah, generally we use American punctuation, though personally I hate it, since it doesn't make sense either. But we decided to make an exception for episode titles, since they aren't really quotes. It just looks bad to put the punctuation inside in that case. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:17, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
+:::::I'm having a strange [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions/Archive4#American_style_punctuation_with_episode_titles sense of de'ja vu.] I just got used to putting punctuation OUTSIDE of quotes after the change. If this is a serious point, let's move it back to [[BW:SAC]]. I think we're nitpicking...we just need to be consistent, at least in any one article. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:34, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
-I noticed a comment in my talk about why you removed notes about the real Earth as homeworld for Humanity some months ago, feeling they were fanwanking.   At the same time you pointed to pages about the sacred scrolls and various fan theories about the Exodus or Exodi in the show.  In order to learn, I wanted to understand the difference.  Is it just where I put it?   My goal was to add only factual information.   While I realize that the Earth in the show is going to be somewhat fictionalized (if we ever see it) there is an important difference between an Earth that had a different history than ours, and one where the science is so different that you might as well say Mars had canals (a common SF trope from before the 60s) or that rocks fall up.
+== User Image ==
-However, where is the proper place to speculate what theories of Earth are consistent with what the writers are trying to show us in the program?   The question of whether, in the re-imagined series, Earth is a colony of Kobol, or instead Kobol is a colony of Earth (and why that was covered up) is an important one to the show, and there are a number of clues in the show pointing to the latter case. {{unsigned|Bradtem}}
+Best one so far! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:02, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+:And not one bit of Photoshop! Note the squeegee! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:52, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
+::yay! ya.. i noticed that the first time around. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:04, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
-:I agree that removing your comments while allowing the convoluted theories in [[Sacred Scrolls]] stand isn't right. It's either both or neither. And if I ever saw fanwank, that's it. I'm toying with the idea of deleting that eyesore and presenting both theories very briefly, but without going into much detail. In fact that's what I'm going to do now. I've already mentioned that on the talk page there as well. However, I don't think those theories should be expanded much further there, as they go beyond the scope of "Sacred Scrolls" --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 06:18, 1 February 2007 (CST)
+== So sorry... ==
-::I tend to agree with Serenity, Bradtem. Obviously the writers want to play with the viewers and make the more "thoughtful" of us wonder about this chicken-and-egg origin. At the same time, they purposefully don't indicate if BSG occurs in real-world Earth's past, present or future. As a result, we shouldn't speculate in detail, thus the concision or removal of your contribution (my apologies as I can't remember the specific reasons and haven't time right now to delve through the history for review). As Serenity noted, we should touch on the possibilities, but we must not go into elaborate "hypotheses" about it as that is strictly fanwanking. A few short definitive notes based on what has aired, and we must leave the rest of the speculation to the talk pages of the article or the reader's imagination. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:02, 1 February 2007 (CST)
+It was a good game. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:19, 13 January 2008 (CST)
-:::I think his confusion stems from the fact that you linked him to a page that contained far more baseless speculation than his [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Earth&diff=prev&oldid=88518 relatively short addition] you removed. It looked like you removed something that was fine elsewhere. He didn't even really speculate, but presented a scientific fact. Personally  I agree with it, and hate those "we don't really have to pay attention to science. They can do what they want" arguments. Of course there is the possibility of BSG taking place in an alternate universe which has also been hinted at in podcasts/interviews.
+:Well, can't have everything. I'm rooting for the Packers. They always have heart and deserve it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:54, 13 January 2008 (CST)
-:::But as you said, that's a discussion more suitable for forums, and a short outline of each point of view probably suffices here. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 08:25, 1 February 2007 (CST)
+::The NFC game will be interesting. Friends here @ work are putting NYG over GB 3 to 1, however, both teams are evenly match. One is good at passing, the other running. Both play in snow, cold weather. The SD v. Pats game is a joke. SD should forfeit now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:03, 13 January 2008 (CST)
-::::I understand now. Thanks for the clarification. The whole subject is too confusing, which means we're doing the right thing in concising it in the first place. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:46, 1 February 2007 (CST)
+:::Proud Cheesehead, here! It'll be interesting to see the looks I get from my fellow New Yorkers while I wear my Packers paraphernalia. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:08, 14 January 2008 (CST)
-::While the theories and speculation may be fanwanks, tracking down the real clues found within the show that back up or refute speculations is a worthwhile function for a wiki, in my view.  However, it does mean you probably need to make references to the theories to understand why a real canonical detail is important to note.  For example, Adama calls the Lagoon Nebula by the name M8, which is an 18th century Earth designation.   That's either a writing error or pretty hard evidence regarding theories of the origin of Kobol and the colonies in the show.  Either way it's worth noting, and the context is important.   Sometimes there isn't even a theory.  Today you removed an addition to the article of the Temple of 5, where I noted that there are 6 drapes and 5 figures standing on 5 of them, one is vacant.   I don't actually know what that means in terms of speculation, but it smells like it's important so I was surprised to see it removed.    In addition, my addition of information on Tyrol's reluctance to destroy the temple is also, in my view, important -- Tyrol is demonstrably under some external influence when it comes to the temple, so again I think it's important to understanding the temple, not just to the story of the episode, though I don't yet know why and did not include any speculation as to why.  I ask this because it's obviously no fun to contribute items just to have them reverted.  I try to stick to facts and information from actual episodes when editing pages that are not meant for speculation. --[[User:Bradtem]]
-:::Those are all things that can be added to the episode articles (generally under "Analysis"). The M8 thing is mentioned on [[Home, Part II]] example. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 17:02, 1 February 2007 (CST)
-::::I understand a desire not to repeat all the episode summaries in other places, but everything in an article about a special object or character is from some episode, so does it not make sense to include the key points to understanding the object in question in the article about it?  It's a pretty fuzzy line, my view is that you really only want to roll back something that's false or a pointless addition.   The line about M8, if it's not a writing error, for example, is arguably the most important clue given in the Temple of Athena scene about the nature of Earth.  It would be odd to me to not repeat it both under the episode summary, but also in the pages on Earth and the Tomb.    If somebody adds every single thing from an episode, that might be rolled back as redundant.  But if they filter what they judge to be the most important things learned about something, that is, if done well, useful information so I would not roll it back.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 15:53, 3 February 2007 (CST)
-:::::I understand. There ''is'' a fuzziness to what we do as administrators and other contributors that have been here awhile. I apologize if the edits that we have done have been confusing, as a wiki, while trying to stick to guidelines and policies, can sometimes not enforce them properly, or in this case, may be enforcing too strictly. There are plenty of articles that overlap in content, like [[Battle of Ragnar Anchorage]] and [[33]]. The key is theme; the battle page details the strategic element only (no character analysis) while the episode summary is heavier on character and event information. False or overly speculative stuff is reverted as soon as we find it, but it's not really a "sin" to add episodic stuff to a item article, it's just less preferred to keep the article fully on topic. The M8 information, as you might know, is detailed in the notes of the Tomb of Athena article. I agree with your thoughts on it, and again I apologize if the situation has taken anything from the fun you get in enjoying the wiki. I'm assuming that I am wrong in this problem because, as a veteran contributor, we can get set in our ways sometimes. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:54, 3 February 2007 (CST)
-== Superbowl ==
+== Matrix etc. :) ==
-So colts fan, what's your plans for the big game? [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:07, 1 February 2007 (CST)
+http://battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=4381&postcount=7 ... Look @ 217kb image. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 02:31, 25 January 2008 (CST)
-:Not sure. A bunch of friends are throwing a party, so I thought I'd go and cheer (or cry) with them, show off my new work MacBook Pro laptop...stuff like that. This frakker ''rocks''... :) Anywho, our city is happy just to be in the Big Show; winning will be OK, but, prior to 1984, we normally sided with the Bears, so it's kinda win-win for everybody. Heard that we're vying to be the host for Super Bowl 45 in 2011... ha. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:26, 1 February 2007 (CST)
-::The odds are in the colts favor... 7 to 1. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:29, 1 February 2007 (CST)
-:::'''''GO COLTS.''''' --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:55, 3 February 2007 (CST)
-:::::'''''COLTS WIN! COLTS WIN!''''' Wondering where Indianapolis is? See [[w:Indianapolis, Indiana|this link]]. I almost went on Wikipedia tonight to <s>vandalize</s>edit in "Home of the Super Bowl Champion Indianapolis Colts" to the page! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 22:17, 4 February 2007 (CST)
+== Thriller? ==
-:::::Very good game....I think. @ the Police "Party" there was a door prize @ the end. A '''''Sirus Satellite System'''''. What are the odds... I won! Both winnars tonight! :-)!!!! [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:11, 4 February 2007 (CST)
+My sources [http://www.colonialfleet.org/quorum/index.php?showtopic=13&view=findpost&p=77652 tell me] that you perform a mean "Thriller" dance... Have an interesting story behind that? :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
-::::::Are you Sirius?! :) Congrats, Shane! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 07:31, 5 February 2007 (CST)
-:::::::Yeah. Little travel one for the car. Wish it were an XM because I a bigger Baseball fan than Football, but this will be good for Football Season next year. Plus... I don't listen to a lot of music. Guess I have a larger selection now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:05, 5 February 2007 (CST)
-:::: I know where Chicago is and I know where the Dolphin Stadium is in FL. But I have no idea where in the US Indianapolis is ^_^. It's gotta be some make-belive city im sure. It conjours up images of [[w:Indy Racing League|Indy car]] racing tho, and an old TV show called [[w:Eerie, Indiana|Eerie, Indiana]] --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 08:06, 5 February 2007 (CST)
+:Oh, no. It almost makes me happy that I can't go to DragonCon this year. Mind you, dancing in a deckhand jumpsuit is intimidating enough, not to mention hot. But wait a minute...did I dance to that song? All that alcohol make things so blurry... :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
+::hahah! [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
-==Question==
+== Recent problems ==
-Hi Spencerian. I made a boo boo yesterday and included a potential spoiler (marked with spoiler tag) about the final five in that article and not the talk page as I intended (Meteor need sleep...I could have sworn I put it into the discussion page). Should I move it or leave it where it is? I can understand if people don't want to see a spoiler in the actual article especially since it has yet to be confirmed. -Whatever everyone thinks is best...I didn't intend for it to be in the actual article. --[[User:Meteor|Meteor]] 05 February 2007.
+Hey again, Spencerian--I hope you are well.  About a month ago, you said that the wiki would be going to a standby mode or something (I don't remember the details and I can't check them because every attempt to access my talk page results in an error message).   Do you know if the recent problems (main page and inability to edit a few other pages plus the aforementioned talk page, in addition to ongoing French and German site issues) are related to this "standby mode"?  Are they continuations of older problems?  Anything you can do to shed light on this would help.  Thanks, and happy holidays! -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 19:27, 13 December 2014 (EST)
-:That's OK, we caught it. While not verified, it's still from a cast member, so we give it some slack but wrapped it in a spoiler tag. No worries. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:19, 6 February 2007 (CST)
-== "cylon conspiracy" analisys ==
+::Hello Spencerian! Sorry I didn't see your message on my talk page literally years ago, but thanks for the message. I do check in here every so often. That the wiki is still online makes me happy and almost unbearable nostalgic for times past. I suppose I should ask Joe what might be needed to help keep this online as I'm Facebook friends with him. I hope all is well with you and yours! [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 21:55, 14 February 2016 (EST)
-Hi,
-I removed my "cylon conspiracy" Analysis from Epiphanies article (About the cylons causing Roslin's cancer).
-[[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Epiphanies&oldid=106852]]
-I moved it to the discussion. I still think it is good, but I haven't watched all the series including Torn. This is why I would not like to go into the argument now, so I won't find out any spoilers.
-Thanks. --[[User:Cyborg|Cyborg]] 10:55, 6 February 2007 (CST)
-:Sure thing, Cyborg. ''Battlestar'' takes a lot of work to track all the stuff going down, so it's no biggie. I'll try not to spoil any more for you. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:58, 6 February 2007 (CST)
-== Epiphanies "why did altar save Roslin analysis" ==
-You removed my question from Epiphanies article. Your answer to me was valuable and was not on the article, so I added it as an analysis.
-http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Epiphanies&oldid=106884
---[[User:Cyborg|Cyborg]] 11:23, 6 February 2007 (CST)
-:Good idea! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:27, 6 February 2007 (CST)