Talk:Resurrection Ship/Archive 1

I thought that the unknown cylon ship was shaped like a taurus? The ship that Starbuck took photos of in the blackbird was definintly not the same ship that was seen in Cain's earlier recon photos. Is this a completley different ship? Or did the writers just change the design of it because they didnt like the donut shaped one? --BMS 23:19, 6 January 2006 (EST)

Good question. That original shot in Pegasus looked different to me too. If you listen to the podcast for this episode it only gets more confusing. RDM says that the design for the Reurrection Ship was finalized quite a while back. --Watcher 23:27, 6 January 2006 (EST)

It is extremely blurred in the photos, as far as I can tell. Hence the recon op. -- Joe Beaudoin 23:33, 6 January 2006 (EST)

Perhaps. After looking at it carefully, the ship in the recon photo looks like it could be the ship we saw in Res Ship part 1, if you put it "on its side" in relation to the basestars. --BMS 23:42, 6 January 2006 (EST)

That was what I was thinking. It may look different from a different angle. Perhaps we should use this pic as another pic? Unless, ofcourse, someone has a better pic (hopefully). Blacklight

The Resurrection ship in The Pegasus episode look more like an original basestar rather than a triangalur Prism.

Correct for values of "more" == "not at all". --Peter Farago 02:20, 7 January 2006 (EST)

I think we should wait for Ragnar Anchorage or someone else to post better caps, if by the end of today no one has, I'll give a link to a site that does have them up already, though they are smaller (by format) than the ones RA normally posts..--Sauron18 7 January 2006

Is there either a suitable nomenclature to refer to any Cylon with a biological component? Since the resurrection ship can download both Humano-Cylons and Raiders, I wanted a way to refer to both with a single term. Bio-Cylon seemed appropriate, though I now see it's already been negatively hijacked by original series purists. Other than the blurb I added at the end, this article refers exclusively to the resurrection of the humanoid form, which, we now know from "Scar", is technically insufficient. I wouldn't want to clutter up the entire article with the hybrid reference; a single clarification would suffice. I don't think my addition quite does the trick, though. --Timtrout 02:33, 7 February 2006 (EST)

The matter was under fairly heated discussion recently. Humano-Cylon is the term currently in use, but I expect this to change in the near future. --Peter Farago 02:42, 7 February 2006 (EST)

If you're looking for a catch-all term referring to both humanoid Cylons and Raiders (which are kind of the step halfway between humanoid Cylons and Centurions), I would go with "bio-mechanical models".--Ricimer 03:35, 7 February 2006 (EST)

Speculation

This is really just pure speculation that it is "slower"

Other effects may include delayed resurrection of Cylon Agents in the colonies, since resurrecting around a dozen Cylons now takes around 36 hours, whereas before resurrection was instantaneous. This probably means that only small scale Resurrection Apparatae have been installed in the Colonies, rednering the process far slower than with the Resurrection Ship, which could revive dozens of Cylons simultaneousley("Downloaded").

--The Merovingian 16:17, 25 February 2006 (EST)

True, it is, but here is a new fact for the Resurrection Ship. When Sharon and Six get resurrected, the room they are in is inside the Resurrection Ship. I am sure of this. In the background you see empty pods, exactly the same as teh ones previousley seen in the ship, with the whole "Rib" edge and open middle. There is also a sort of mechanism to which they are attached, which implies they enter the room in the pod, then the body is removed (perhaps by other machinery) and placed in the tank. Here is a cap of a detail of the pod...

Resurrection Room:

Close [1] [2]

Far Away [3]

(Credit: Roger at Ausxip)

Resurrection Ship:

Far Away [4]

Close [5]

(Credit: BattlestarGalactica-Online.Com)

--Sauron18 25 February 2006

No. It is so intentionally dark in the scene in "Downloaded" that we can barely see the room even with these pics. Further, the idea was that the Cylons did not originally need a Resurrection Ship; for all we know (indeed, more probably) Resurrection/Download facilities on the surface of the Cylon homeworld look fairly similar to mobile ones on the Resurrection ship. We can't really get anything definative from this. --The Merovingian 19:20, 25 February 2006 (EST)

Those were definetley pods back there, and judging by the size and illumintation of the room and the period of time, it couldn't be in ultra shiny, just nuked caprica. Which would leave two choices, Homeworld and Resurrection Ship. Since they had the ship in the fleet, for this purpose exactly, it is likely that they didn't go all the way home, but rather in the ship. Its also what the ship was designed for, dropnet of Cylon Agents (and raiders) and since the point of the episode was to show us Cylon resurrection, it would be smart to use a room in the res ship. I think it is worthy enough to at least mention as: "It is quite possible that the room where Caprica-Six and Sharon Valerii resurrect is located, in fact, within the Resurrection ship. --Sauron18 25 February 2006

No. From what we gathered in "Resurrection Ship, part I" the Res Ship was built after Galactica escaped outside of the range of the Cylon homeworld.--The Merovingian 19:48, 25 February 2006 (EST)

Thats not true, it wasn't built just for that. We don't actually get the direct Cylon Explanation, but the ship is too massive to build in that short amount of time. They already had the ship. --Sauron18 25 February 2006

We have no idea how long it would take the Cylons to build a Resurrection Ship. It's very possible they built it after Galactica's escape. --Redwall 20:11, 25 February 2006 (EST)

They are Machines; they have a far greater productive capacity than humans, and they have the resources of an entire planet at their disposal.--The Merovingian 20:55, 25 February 2006 (EST)

My point is, it is not a fact, and it doesn't make any sense. Machines also don't use too much more than they need, they had tops 12 models in the fleet, and the ship is full of tens of thousands of HUman models, I'm sure its got its raiders, but its got an overdose of human models. It is obvious they wouldn't put so many for 12 cylons when many more Cylons would need them in the COlonies. It makes more sense that it was built for the attack specifically, that the COlonies are out of range and that this ship was built all along the way. Even though they are machines, given their current situation (occupying 12 planets) it would be impossible to build a ship this large and fill it with everything it needs in just a few months. --Sauron18 26 February 2006

Interior

I was thinking of adding information on the Resurrection Room, which has been proven to be within the Resurrection Ship. The screencap of the room isn't very detailed, however, one of the people who worked on the SFX of this and certain other aspects of the show redid the model they used for the Resurrection Ship. This rendering is official and shows parts of the room which were previousley unseen. Any opinions? I have good versions of both the screencap and the "unshadowed" picture. --Sauron18 22:24 19 June 2006 (CDT)

If you can't site the source of the image, I think it should be ok. It does have to be a legitimate source however. --StrayCat0 22:21 25 June 2006

(CDT)

Actually, it's Alain Rivard. He has an entry here on the BSwiki and the link to the site is there. ;)--Sauron18 01:11 20 June 2006

Let's see 'em. So far, I reserve judgement, but only because I feel like I've seen no evidence one way or the other. My initial interpretation was that the Cylons had built a badly lit res facility on Caprica, but I'm not writing the thing, so I could be wrong. I'd like to see both shadowed and unshadowed. --Day ^{(Talk - Admin)} 01:17, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

Well, Sharon's might've been in Caprica, but Six's couldn't since they were just attacking at the moment. Um, that it was the interior was confirmed through the communiques, basically Ngarren (Bradley Thompson) told us that the Cylons wouldn't need a resurrection ship if they could be reborn in basestars, and also confirmed their planet is too far away, so sort of jotted out the two possibilities for Six's rebirth. With Sharon's he said it would be either in a Caprica room or in one of the Resurrection Ships. But since Six was too early for Caprica....

Anyways, here is a smallified version of Alain's Resurrection Room Render

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/619/chamber9ke.jpg

The "Shadowed" one is the screencap from the actual episode. He's also got a neat model of old Ressy. Either way, it could always go in a BTS section, or just be mentioned, but I thought it looked perfect. It doesn't have the tub, but it's still the room. I dunno. --Sauron18 01:33 26 June 2006

I don't believe there's any indication that this room is on board the Resurrection Ship. --Peter Farago 02:18, 26 June 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, for all we know her consciousness just got stored and woke up later. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 07:29, 26 June 2006 (CDT)