Talk:Razor/Archive2

We'll need to retitle this article when we get a proper title that's not ambigous as "Battlestar Galactica (DVD movie)". The article will also need to become an episode summary as well. Maybe it may be better to rename this as "Battlestar Galactica (2007 DVD movie)" to avoid confusion with the Miniseries and other DVD releases. -- Spencerian 11:02, 17 April 2007 (CDT) ^{(Talk - Contribs - WonderNumbers)}

I brought it in line with the standard episode guide format for now. Adding the year number is a good idea for now, but later we'll probably have a real name --Serenity 11:06, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

I agree. Battlestar Galactica (2007 DVD movie) would be good if we don't get an official title. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 11:09, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Right. I'll rename it. --Spencerian 11:56, 17 April 2007 (CDT)^{(Talk - Contribs - WonderNumbers)}

Numbering and prev/next

How are we gonna number this one? 4.00 currently redirects here, but if that's the number we're going with, it should be 400 (in line with 101 through 320). Or are we gonna pull another webisode and not number it at all? Also, the webisodes are missing from the episode guides' Prev/Next sequence. Is this one gonna be included? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 11:09, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

400 is possible. But do we need to determine that right now? We could as well wait until some information about it is known. Agree though, that the webisodes should be in the sequence. I'll see to that... --Serenity 11:11, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

We can wait, just wanted to point out we'll want a number at some point. Thanks for the sequence thingy, I could've fixed it myself but wondered whether they were left out intentionally (because there's no critical story in them, apart from Nora's death which is recapped in Occupation).--Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 11:33, 17 April 2007 (CDT)

Since Joe made 4.01 redirect here, the episode data needs to be changed to 4.01 too. And the rest of the episodes after it, to off course (well, one for now). For what it's worth the casting sides (see below), call it 4.01 and 4.02. That's probably correct, since it's TWO episodes that belong together - possibly shown as one movie. So "He That Believeth In Me" would be 4.03 --Serenity 16:04, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

That's what I've figured, given what I've read thus far. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:10, 11 June 2007 (CDT)

"Razor"

I recently noticed Razor being created as a redirect to this page. Is "Razor" this movie's working title? Do we have a source for that? Never mind. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 08:45, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

If the official name is Razor, though, this page should be renamed to "Razor". Could someone on Sci Fi Forums (or somewhere else) ask for confirmation on the Razor and HTBIM titles? I've asked on BW:OC, but that page isn't viewed very much. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 11:09, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Well, the press release confirming the last season drops the "Razor" title. Can we construe this as confirmation, or at least enough to justify a move? --Mars 14:10, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Given that there remains no official title, the working title redirect is just fine for the wiki's needs, and keeps it more searchable that our title here. It is not likely we'll get an official title (like the episodes) until they are officially announced. --Spencerian 15:45, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Does Sci-FI Wire not count as an official source? I would think a press release from the network would be official enough to warrant the article's name change. Alpha5099 16:27, 4 June 2007 (CDT)

It's the writers that ultimately choose the name. The episode "Home" became a two-parter at the last minute. Season 3 had a sudden change for its very first episodes. Sci Fi's own "official web site" lists ship information with numerous errors. Heck, the press release for the series end was filled with heinous errors. It is best to wait and not jump ahead. Again....we already have a redirect for any searches on the term of "Razor", so we're covered. We reverse the redirect once we see the name on the TV schedule. --Spencerian 22:16, 4 June 2007 (CDT)

According to [this] Ron Moore confirmed the title at the LA Q&A event. It's second hand, but straight from the head honcho. --Serenity 16:51, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

Since RDM confirmed it, it's good, until it gets changed. Remember episode titles can change right up until the episode airs. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 18:47, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

Sequence numbers

This source cites 401 and 402 as the sequence numbers for "Razor", and 403 for "He That Believath In Me". Are we gonna follow this scheme? Ask Brad? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 09:11, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

We could just hold off on episode numbers until something definite is known. For know we can just use episode names, and add the numbers later. --Serenity 10:22, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Obviously, since this is the last season, we don't need any official numbering policy and can continue to implement episode numbering on an ad-hoc basis. The trouble is where official resources disagree (the third season podcasts were consistantly numbered as if "Occupation/Precipice" were two episodes, while on said podcasts, RDM consistantly referred to them as if "Occupation/Precipice" were a single episode). My personal opinion is that it makes the most sense to label each hour of the season with its own production code, and to give mid-season ancillary material such as "The Resistance" and "Razor" the X.00 designation. That being said, we should obviously defer to the production staff if they follow a consistant practice. --Peter Farago 13:49, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree. Let's wait for the Season 4 podcasts to hear what number RDM gives them. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 15:30, 5 June 2007 (CDT)

Casting sheets (SPOILERS!)

Get this and this

1.) Flashbacks to the Cylon attack from Pegasus's point of view. It counterpoints Adama by showing how Cain reacted to the news. The new character, Kendra Shaw, is shellshocked at first, but quickly pulls herself together. Scenes showing the destroyed Colonial Fleet.

After Pegasus joins the Fleet, Lee Adama finds himself reviewing herself. Similar to Starbuck she has some discipline problems and got busted by Fisk and Garner. Since he doesn't give a damn about those two and needs someone from Pegasus to work with him, he promoted her to be his XO.

2.) Flashback to the first Cylon War with a young William Adama flying a Viper sortie. Helena Cain is a child and living through an attack on her home colony of Tauron. The battlestar Columbia is destroyed (this must be the predecessor of the one destroyed in the second war). In the course of the fight Adama is shot down on some planet and somehow finds a lab where the Cylons experimented on humans. He sees on the of new basestars. This is directly before the Armistice, which is declared before he can do something about it.

All very interesting, but hard to source. And still subject to change. It tracks with everything else known though.

Also according to IMDB this is the actress to play Kendra Shaw. And I know that this isn't entirely reliable. Looks hot though :) --Serenity 17:21, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

The trailer preview that aired yesterday confirms that this is, indeed, the actress, or at least someone who looks A LOT like her. --Sauron18 17:53, 23 June 2007 (CDT)

Director

Where has it been cited that Félix Enríquez Alcalá is going to direct? There's no mention of this within the body of the article. Keep in mind that I haven't listened to the audiofile, and the two TV Week links appear to be dead. --Mars 12:59, 9 June 2007 (CDT)

SciFy Portal

http://www.syfyportal.com/news423777.html

According to this Cain and Gina were lovers. In her childhood Cain's family were attacked by Cylons (which fits perfectly with the script excerpt above) and she had to make a decision to save herself or her sister. And the TOS Centurions will be seen extensively in full CGI glory.

The article says that the source is anonymous though. Still, it sounds very plausible. Include or not? --Serenity 12:34, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

Minisodes/Webisodes

How do we deal with those webisodes that will air in October? We have an own article for "The Resistance", but since the "Razor" ones are basically cut material that will be included in the DVD version, we might want to put them into the normal "Razor" article. When they air we can have a separate section, and later include them into the summary (once the DVD is out). They could be marked with a '*' for example to note their webisode status. --Serenity 17:19, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

That seems a sensible approach. Also, we may want to create Razor webisodes (and articles of the same caliber) as a redirect to the "Razor" article, so as to avoid creating repetitious content. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 17:21, 27 August 2007 (CDT)

Shaw's patch

I'm sure some of us noticed this already, but the patch is a yellow color. I wonder if she's a survivor from another battlestar or ship entirely. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 18:16, 21 September 2007 (CDT)

Re-imagined Series definition: in military parlance, directive to continue the attack; otherwise used to refer to journalists ^{(TRS: "Maelstrom")}

Re-imagined Series definition: the process of using the FTL engines to make an near-instantaneous apparent faster-than-light transport of a ship from one point in space to another

Re-imagined Series definition: Executive Officer, e.g. Saul Tigh