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| == Scifi.com == | | | archivenumber = 03 |
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| For the record, btw, as many of you may know from the messageboards, I think the Scifi.com is poorly run and (unlike Ron Moore) doesn't really try to "connect with the fans", as they ''claim'' (the messageboards are a laughingstock of poor moderating, the Battlestar website hasn't been updated in a full year, they only post up Ron's blog and podcasts but that's more Ron's doing than theirs...plus Mrs.Ron tells us that Ron has supplied ''several'' new podcasts to them that they simply haven't put up). Anyway, Scifi Weekly on their front page has a "review a website" thing and I mailed in a "Hey, why not review BattlestarWiki?" request. To be honest, I think they would view us as competition with their abortive, and, also pathetically laughable wiki attempt, Scifipedia (I can't even log in). --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 13:03, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :As much as I fear and despise redundancy as a computer scientist, I really don't have a problem with the Scifipedia. One has only to type in a few basic search words (major characters, episode names, etc.) to see that it really isn't trying to compete with a specialized wiki like this one. They have one big summary article about BSG, and that's about it. I don't view it so much as a rivalry as an entity with an entirely different mission. They're trying to cover a much broader spectrum by covering "Scifi"... especially since that now apparently includes the world of professional wrestling. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:08, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Oh no I don't view them as a rival: I'd like it if they were up and running as a succesful wiki. The reason for my contempt is that the clowns at Scifi.com don't run it well and it's loaded with technical problems. Basically I couldn't log in (they have many log in problems) and their "response" was "well, if you want we could delete your current account"...um, I'm not giving up an over 4,000 post screename for that, and it wasn't much of a "solution". Only the latest in a long string of frustrations--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 13:12, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::My fear is that the "clowns" are just barely plural. What if the only people running the site are Admin and the much maligned Admin1. Maybe Scifi just underestimates how much manpower it takes to maintain an online presence in this day and age. I'd prefer to imagine their problems as being caused by massing staffing/funding shortages. I guess I just don't want to believe that a properly funded and staffed web team could run a site so poorly. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:16, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::Some people have said there's a marked difference between "Admin" and "Admin1", and alothough I realize that they are 2 separate people, I've not noticed a difference; there is?--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 13:37, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::I've not had interactions with either, so I can't testify one way or the other. However the ip of "Admin" seems based out of NYC, while "Admin1" appears to hail from Seattle (I realize proxies can fool this, but most people don't bother). Also, the "note from the admin" (excerpted below) says you can pm either of them. They've just never seemed... responsive or communicative, which has really damaged the situation. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:49, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::"The Battlestar BBoard will be monitored by site administrators throughout the day. If you see a post that you feel violates the rules above, send a private message to "admin" or "admin1" and it will be reviewed. Our decisions regarding what constitutes a violation will be subjective, and will err on the side of free and open discussion, but we will not tolerate openly hostile or abusive behavior.
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| :::::As always, if you have any suggestions for how we can improve our message boards, we'd love to hear them. E-mail us directly at bboard@www.scifi.com."
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| :::::: Is that really what it says? "bboard@www.scifi.com"? That's... I mean--That doesn't look like a valid email address to ''me''. Now, granted, I'm not a piece of email-related software, so I could be wrong, but I've never see "www" in an email addy before. Weird. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 14:12, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::I just copy and pasted. But yeah, that struck me as odd as well. Maybe "Admin" (who is the one that made that post) isn't that web-savvy.--[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:36, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::That email address is the default email address for any "webserver" running aphace webserver. It's sad. That email address gets not only reports from errors produced, but any error that occurs on the system. ''Maybe'' we should take advantage of the [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#If_there_was... situation]? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:44, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::::I'm not about to be run off of Skiffy just because of incompetant Administrators. The answer to trolls attacking you is ''never'' to simply ignore them: tell that to Czechoslovakia circa 1939. Not reacting to trolls, not punishing them, simply emboldens them. The answer is to fight back: get Moderators to step in, and if a website doesn't have Moderators, demand that Moderators get appointed until they are. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 14:49, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::::I seen that request on SciFi and it doesn't seem to be working, yet you all stay anyway. At least with a forum that we, as regular wiki users, could easily manage 1000 to 2000 users on a forum that we ran our selfs with rules that are more enforceable because it's user run. You arn't going to get it on SciFi.com unless they are willing to hire (paid employees) because it's a company website. I have yet to see any comapny allow any "user" run moderator on their "company" forums. Ok.. off for a a haircut. I'll be back. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:00, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::::::If I wanted to use a "safe" BSG forum I could simply go to Ragnar Anchorage or HangarDeck5. What I want is Scifi.com: that's where Ron and Mrs.Ron are. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:02, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::Merv, would you like to see an "active" use of the forums on how they can be setup? I would tell you think link, but I need assurance that the link not be given out to the public. I would send the link to you via email. Staying where Ron and Mrs. Ron are fine if you stay in contact with them to ask them questions. I am just offering another alternative to Ragnar Anchorage or HangarDeck5 or even SciFi.com "general" discussion. I would like our forum idea not to be dismissed based on the fact that it would be a startup. Being a webmaster and former server administrator I seen sites jump in activity just because of forums. Wouldn't that be nice? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:57, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::If we are to entertain an idea of setting up a forum, it should be different from Battlestar Wiki, period. I wouldn't mind helping set something up with Shane, but the forum and the Wiki must be two distinct, individual entities, seeing as they have mutually exclusive objectives. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:15, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
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| Maybe we should move the above discussion to the Quorum, since it's more general in nature (and really hasn't involved Spence at all)?--[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:07, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :Done.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 15:14, 13 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Shouldnt the discussion about a forum go on the [[BW:TANK|Think Tank]]? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:30, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::I'm just discussing the general inadequacies of Skiffy here. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 09:22, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::Oh right. I dont use skiffy anymore. Not since they cancelled Invisible Man and havnt even been bothered to release it on DVD. Any questiones asked about it are deleted/ignored. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 09:34, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::To my knowledge, they released the first season of the Invisible Man on DVD in Region 2 almost two years ago, IIRC. (It, too, pisses me off that they can release crap shows on DVD, yet not release something of qualify such as IMan. Then again, there was a battle just to get ''MacGyver'' released on DVD, so perhaps I shouldn't be too surprised...) However, I fully agree with your sentiment, Mercifull. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:15, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::I actually have the first season on DVD. Its rare to find, even in the UK. Id love to get the second series but it doesnt look like sci fi are in a hurry to please its "customers". I could go onto ebay and get a dodgy dvd from someone but it would never been the same quality as the real thing. Plus it would go againsy my stance of only having [http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/Mercifull real copies of films] --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:02, 18 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::Were is the {{tl|rolleyes}} template when needed... :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 03:25, 18 July 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::::http://www.darkwebz.com/forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:38, 18 July 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::::geek++ :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 04:24, 18 July 2006 (CDT)
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| == Seaon Three Teaser Images and other artwork? ==
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| I don't see any images for the Season Three article. I have a whole stack of screen caps made from a relatively high-resolution version of the teaser (I think it was the largest version that got uploaded to the net). Would these be useful and/or wanted?
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| [[User:Scotchfairy|Scotchfairy]] 07:47, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
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| I'm toying an idea for some articles for the wiki.
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| Now, by "toying", I mean I'm incredibly busy and have other things to do but it's a topic of interest to me, which I may or may not ever get around to actually doing even if people wanted me to. I just want to be clear about that.
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| The premise of the show is genocide and the effects of it on the featured characters. I happen to have some expertise in the field of trauma (Ph.D. holding, licensed mental health professional with peer reviewed publications and about 15 years professional experience working with traumtized adolescents and adults.) I've been thinking about whether some historical articles on genocide, some pieces on the known psychological effects of genocide and the effects of major disasters would round out some of the more fictional aspects of the show. Given how Kara has been portrayed as the adult survivor of child abuse, maybe a piece on the effects of that would be in order.
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| This stuff would just be a way of rounding out the fictional elements with some factual pieces related to the series.
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| I'm not thinking dense academic tracts, but reader friendly overviews with appropriate academic citations.
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| Of course, I'm not even going to waste my time if there's no interest, which is why I'm throwing it out there.
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| --[[User:Cranky1c|Cranky1c]] 06:27, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
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| :Hmmm...well if you want to do something about talking about how the show accurately portrays Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, etc., I would suggest putting it in [[Science in the Re-imagined Series]]; that might be a good spot. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 08:20, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
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| ::I would want to be neutral regarding "accurate portrayal" in the show. The shows fiction, so it's not going to be totally accurate, which is fine. I'm thinking of the casual reader who wants to know more about whats known about reactions to catastrophies and such. It would be more along the lines of the physics of star trek, where the story becomes a point of departure for giving information about real life stuff.
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| --[[User:Cranky1c|Cranky1c]] 08:35, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
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| We use thie template alot, but when I look through, I notice that there is alot of extra stuff that we are putting in to make it harder for ourselfs to remember. I come up with a new format here: [[Template talk:Episode Data/Example Syntax]] - This would show you what you would enter to format an Episode.
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| Would like you to comment on [[Template talk:Episode Data]] page. The example "code" to be used is also on the page. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:14, 6 August 2006 (CDT)
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| == The Hangerbay Comes to Life ==
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| The hangerbay has some new life in it. I have gotten images to work so that you can see it with images instead of nothing. The three most complete pages that are ont he hnagerbay are:
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| * http://www.battlestarwiki.org/hangarbay/index.php/Main Page
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| * http://www.battlestarwiki.org/hangarbay/index.php/Anastasia_Dualla
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| * http://www.battlestarwiki.org/hangarbay/index.php/33
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| Discuss the new look and colors on the [[BW:TANK]] page. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:20, 6 August 2006 (CDT)
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| ==Wormholes==
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| There are a few instances where its been suggested colonial FTLs use worm holes to travel, could someone point me to the ep where this was mentioned because i dont think theyve said they do use worm holes.
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| Also maybe they have to close the "doors" so the inertia doesnt chuck the vipers out the back ;)? [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 06:58, 13 August 2006 (CDT)
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| == DragonCon, Anyone? ==
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| I'll be attending '''DragonCon 2006''' this year in Atlanta. For those not in the know, DC is one of the largest SF cons in the country, with over 20,000 attendees. If you're attending this year, drop me a quick note here on my talk page or here, and what you'll be wearing if you happen to dig doing the costume thing. I may not make it to the first BSG forum, but you be assured that my face will be in others. Use my talk page pictures to find me. How many other black, bald men are you going to find in Atl...oh...wait... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:37, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
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| == Image Taging! ==
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| After two days of work, image tagging is now working once more. Be sure to read the image templates on how to use them. Contact me on my user page for any question on how to use them! Remember... you have to change tme on the "[[:md:Main Page|Media Wiki]]". --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 19:01, 24 August 2006 (CDT)
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| == [[Portal:Cylons/Current Cylon agents]] ==
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| Hello, I wanted to copy this [[Portal:Cylons/Current Cylon agents]] to the german page. But there seems to be a bug. If I watch it alone, everything is O.K. But as soon as I watch it in [[Portal:Cylons]] the pictures are at the wrong place. Is this only to my browser or can anyone confirm this? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 11:03, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :This happens in the english version as well as in the german. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 17:53, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| From here I can link to Wikipedia without using a weblink, but using simply [[Wikipedia:...]]. Does that mean, that this project is an offical Wikimedia project? If not, how is the real relationship? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 11:15, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :No its not a Wikimedia project but the Battlestar Wiki has enabled [[:Wikipedia:InterWiki|Interwiki]] links along with many other popular wikis so that we can easily and seemlessly go from one place to another. You can see a full list of Wkis to link to [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_map here] --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 13:21, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Only the ones in [[BW:INTER]] work. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:23, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Are you sure... ;) Try a few --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 13:40, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::Pretty sure. :) /me goes to the database.. only 6 entries. looks like the same on [[BW:INTER]]. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:42, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::Well it appears that they have all been removed then. I will add some wikis we should interlink to shortly. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 13:52, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| == Photo of human cylons of Galactica 1980 ==
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| Hello, does anybody have Photos of the human cylons of Galactica 1980? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 11:57, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| : If I recall correctly, there was only the one, [[Andromus]], and a picture of him ([[:Image:Andromus.jpg|Image:Andromus.jpg]]) is on that page. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:14, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Wasn't there two? A man and a woman. And O'm sure i've seen a picture of them in a car together. Could be wrong mind, memory isnt what it used to be hehe --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 16:06, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Again, it's been years (thankfully) since I've watched the 1980 episodes. All I remember is Wolfman Jack, a microwave, and a bunch of Cylons busting some party. And even this is something I am attempting to remove from my long-term memory. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:22, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::: Don't forget the [[Quotes:08 31 | meatballs]]! --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:30, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::That quote contains possibly some of the worst script EVER! --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 16:39, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::Thanks for the photo, Joe. :o) Definitly there were three male humanoid aliens. The first indeed was Wolfman Jack ;o), the father of all DJs. And the other both were male humanoid cylons beside three centourios aboard an spatial. Thus the idea of human cylons is NOT!! an idea of the new Battlestar Galactica. But only one of the human and one of the centourios were alive the crashdown and later sitting in the car. Bye the way: Does anybody know the weight of a classic centourios? ;o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 17:50, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::I remember that my family was rolling on the floor laughing, when the spatial was going to crashdown on the earth. One of the two humanoid cylons stated: "Chance to be alive: humanoids about 60% .... centourios about 12%. Then the three centourios turned her "face" back to the humanoids = camera and looked a sight and sorrowful. Although this is more than 20 years ago, I never forget this sight to behold. :o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 02:07, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :I've got all 10 hours worth of Galactica 1980 on my Tivo box (though I may have to build a Ghostbusters-style containment unit around that part of the hard drive to hold it). As soon as I upgrade my tivo's wireless adapter to a supported one (so that the Tivo won't reboot whenever I try to transfer shows) I hope to get some more screenshots for 1980. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:17, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
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| O.K. Don't bite the newbee. ;o) I do not know, what a sandbox is in german. Could someone explane this term? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 18:05, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :Sandbox is just a place to trest stuff out without having to worry about creating antoher page or messing up an live article. :) I have no idea on the translation of sandbox. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:19, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Aaaah! In german it is "[[wikipedia:de:wikipedia:Spielwiese]]" = "playground". Its the same as the test sides in my account. Thanks for explaning. :o) -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 18:42, 3 September 2006 (CDT)
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| Hot Topic now has Battlestar t-shirts. One has the seal of the "Vigilantes" squadron, and the other says "What the Frak?" with a Colonial emblem on the back. Do we want to add them to the merch section? Here's a link: [http://search.hottopic.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&lbc=hottopic&w=battlestar Hot Topic Battlestar Galactica Shirts]--[[User:Thetruthseeker|Thetruthseeker]] 10:32, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :I'm not sure if these are officially licensed products based on that link. Thanks to places like CafePress, creating stuff like this with trademarked logos without official licensing is too easy. I'd prefer that we not add this one as I cannot yet find an ''official'' product that comes close. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:02, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::To be honest, I don't think they are officially licensed. I'd rather not link them unless we have definitive proof that they are. Thoughts? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:20, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::I agree. Too iffy. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:37, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Concur. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:42, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::I don't care if they aren't officially licensed, I want one of those "What the frak?" shirts. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 07:43, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
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| There are also these shirts at the SciFi.com store, which I would assume are official. Should we add those to the merch? [http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/index.php?v=nbuscinowbst&SESSID=71f3df2f2afdbce1063221a2b036318e Battlestar Merch at the SciFi.com Store]
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| --[[User:Thetruthseeker|Thetruthseeker]] 09:52, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
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| : The shirts from NBC-UNI are fine. We should probably create an article for them, something along the lines of [[Officially licensed t-shirts]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:40, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Raise your hand if you just put in an order for a "Frak Off" shirt! *raises hand* --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 11:45, 13 September 2006 (CDT)
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| == Do you see the ball? ==
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| The first time, Apollo landed on Galactica in the miniseries, he was asked: "Do you see the ball?". I never understood, what this "ball" is. Does anybody know? -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 22:26, 11 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :[http://forums.xbox.com/5290851/ShowPost.aspx Xbox forum thread]
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| :''"Call the ball" has to do with the glideslope you need to be on to land the plane on the carrier. There is a system on the left side of the carrier called an Optical Landing System and it shines lights to let the pilot know where he is in relation to the deck, also known as a "Meatball" because of the circle shaped and red lights. It works with the same idea as the crosshair on your HUD. So the carrier is just telling the pilot to confirm that he can see the lighting for the glideslope. Then, the pilot (if he see's it) will then say "I have the ball".''
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| :Terrestrial-based aviation also uses glideslope (VASI, etc.) but they don't look like a ball. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:21, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Or.. "[[wikipedia:Meatball#Cultural reference|Meatball]]" is another term used be the USN. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 07:31, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::And I think you see Galactica's "ball" when Kat lands during Final Cut. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 07:42, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ''"Viper four-five-zero, this is Galactica. Approach port landing bay, hands-on, speed one-zero-five. Checkers red, '''call the ball'''."''
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| == Request from FrakParty.com ==
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| Hi folks! We are in awe of all that you've accomplished here.
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| We (a few friends and I) just launched [http://frakparty.com FrakParty.com]. We whipped it up as an afterhours project - would've liked to have had it done sooner, but so it goes.
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| This is a site to allow BSG fans to organize viewing parties. The idea is for people to invite their friends, but also to be able to meet other fans in their area. We're hoping that people will also arrange viewings in public places with big screens - bars, even theaters, etc...
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| Is there any where appropriate in the wiki to let people know about FrakParty? This is a non-commercial site just put up as a service for fans.
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| : Awesome. Perhaps the [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Battlestar_Wiki:Community_Portal/Fan_Sites&action=edit Community Portal Link Area]? Otherwise, the Quorum (where you currently have it) is a pretty good start. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:11, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::Love the hats, especially how Adama got the King hat and Six got the tiara. :) It's an intriguing idea. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:56, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::: RDM mentioned Frak Party in his latest blog. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 19:27, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
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| == Copyright violations BY Wikipedia?! ==
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| I was scanning the various BSG articles on Wikipedia when I realized many articles there have directly lifted from Battlestar Wiki. We could consider this a form of flattery, or ask them to rewrite their own since our CC license isn't compatible with their GDFL license--or is it true in the reverse?
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| In any case, I marked their [[Wikipedia:Battlestar|Battlestar]] article as a copyvio as it's almost a direct lift from [[Galactica type battlestar]]. What's to be done, or does anything really need to be done? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 22:58, 27 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :You are correct that the GFDL doesn't allow the inclusion of CC-BY-NC-SA content, and thus shouldn't be using our content. From a practical standpoint, however, I'm not particularly interested in pressing the issue. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:14, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :You'll actually find that the [[Battlestar]] article does have some content which has been lifted from BSGWiki, however the majority is unrelated, i've removed the violation text while i rewrite it. I notice in the history youa re the primary contrib to the article for the RDM Galactica, If you wish you ould dual license your text under the GFDL allowing Wikipedia to reproduce any text you created. [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 03:41, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ==Template works in Wikipedia, but not in Battlestar Wiki ... Why?==
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| Hello, "Template" means in German "Vorlage". I have a "Vorlage" on my Wikipedia User Page [[:wikipedia:de:Benutzer:Tirkon/Test]]. It is an episode list of one season, which can be expanded to all seasons and collapsed back. I think, it is clear, where its good for. I have copied this "Vorlage" to my Battlestar Wiki account [[:de:Benutzer:Tirkon/Test]]. But there the expanding and colapsing does not work. Does anybody know, why? Thank you for an answer. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 19:23, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :When importing templates from Wikipedia, one has to remember that there is a considerably foundation that many Wikipedia templates take advantage of. You'd not only have to copy over the code of the Navigation List, but also all the templates included in it, and all the templates that those templates include (and so on). Which is not to say that it is impossible, just sometimes tedious and time consuming. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 06:18, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::There is another "Vorlage" = template, which was included in Wikipedia. I have also copied this [[:de:Vorlage:EpisodeExpand]]. Could it be, that there are other templates in Wikipedia, which are needed but not visible in the text of the template? Sorry for silly questions, but I never before established templates. And I cannot ask in Wikipedia, because it is no problem there. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 06:40, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Shane will probably be able to respond more precisely once he comes online. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 06:49, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::Thanks, the edit side of the included template in Wikipedia does not show any included templates. see here: [http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vorlage:Navigationsleiste&action=edit], They are normally mentioned under the edit-box. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 06:57, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::Yeah, what I was mistaking for inclusions were actually parameters (with three brackets). It may be a CSS issue, with all the different classes being used (NavFrame,NavHead,NavContent and NavEnd), which is REALLY Shane territory. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:06, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::Simple Answer, interactive java is disabled for now until 1.8. I'll revisit adding this then, but likly this will not be installed. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:18, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::: Thank you for your answers. Pity, it would also be a good solution for spoiltext, if it could be configurated that way, that it is always closed, if any page is opened. It could also hide pictures and wikilinks, which is a problem at present. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 13:12, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
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| ==Standards and Conventions Adjustments==
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| Please visit [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions]] to comment on film, TV and other citation formatting guidelines suggested for inclusion to the wiki policy. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:51, 30 September 2006 (CDT)
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| Seriously thinking about writing our own "essay" about it and why it should be avoid at all cost at Battlestar Wiki. Just something that can be referenced internally. Thoughts? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 14:46, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
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| : Good idea. Once you're done, dunk it in the Tank. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:39, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
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| :By all means. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:16, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
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| :Huh? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:11, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
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| :: [[w:Fanwank|Here is what Frankie's referring to.]] -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 22:15, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
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| :::Oh, thanks Joe! And yeah, good idea Frankie. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 22:31, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::You're very welcome. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 22:38, 1 October 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::Here's what I have so far [[User:Gougef/Fanwanking]]. I know it's "harsh." --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:09, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::Looks great so far, actually. I want to crosslink with this and the [[Battlestar Wiki:Citation Jihad]] subsection on derived content to warn people not to confuse that with fanwankery, which is wholly unsubstantiated. I'll add a bit for that.--[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:46, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
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| :::::::It's going a little far to say that fanwaking is completely forbidden. A certain amount of speculation is appropriate (take, for example, [[Articles of Colonization]] - the simplest explanation would be that the producers messed up referred to article 21 instead of 23 by mistake. However, the situation was different enough that Tyrol could plausibly have been invoking different rights in each case). It only becomes problematic when we concoct patently inplausible scenarios to excuse what are obviously production errors. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:28, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
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| ::::::::Want me to put it in the tink tank has a mutual proposal to be worked on? As a recovering fanwanker ;), I know I was probably being too harsh. Thanks for the great ideas. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 18:40, 2 October 2006 (CDT)
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| == Wiki up again ==
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| Just to let everyone know, the Wiki is up again. Basically had to restart the server since there was an error in MySQL; I don't know what exactly cause it, as of yet. If there are any other problems that may arise, please let me know. Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:03, 7 October 2006 (CDT)
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| == Science in the Re-imagined Series Reorganization ==
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| Please see the [[Talk:Science in the Re-imagined Series]] article for information and to add your comments on a major reorganization planned by me for these article and various articles. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:12, 10 October 2006 (CDT)
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Scifipedia
It seems Sci Fi has set up their own wiki, and looking through there I saw some articles which were, while not text-for-text copies, strongly influenced by our setup here. Is this a problem, or can we just let it pass by? --BklynBruzer 12:47, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
- Which articles? --Shane (T - C - E) 12:53, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
- Aaron Douglas, for one. Let me find a few more. --BklynBruzer 12:57, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
- Katee Sackhoff is eerily similar to ours, as well. --BklynBruzer 13:00, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
- Well, at first, I was going to say they probably just used an appropriate license, but SCIFIPEDIA:Terms of Use definitely means they don't. This is a problem, as the content there clearly infringes. The same user originated both of the example articles, and they show clear similarity in a way suggesting an attempt to disguise the copying or a very poor effort to paraphase. --CalculatinAvatar(C-T) 13:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
- Let's have Joe notified on this. They (in proxy) own the rights to talk about the show, but not to copy from other wikis if they are going to respect the MediaWiki process and the licensing. Oh, this isn't new: Wikipedia contributors have greatly boosted many articles from us as well. --Spencerian 15:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
- Yeah, I know it's not new, but I figured it should be brought up. --BklynBruzer 17:21, 18 October 2006 (CDT)
- I've been aware of the growing issue. Scifi claims that they are the ones who wrote the original articles, such as the one on Edward James Olmos. Right now, I need help gathering evidence to the contrary -- please feel free to either e-mail me or post any evidence here. Since my time is now getting extremely limited, I need help in this. Thank you! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 19:20, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
german Battlestar Wiki
Again german Battlestar Wiki was the first, who aired a german description of the new episode Exodus, Part II. Thank you to all of you, who aired the english description very fast and made this translation possible. :o) -- Tirkon 14:30, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
- Danke, Tirkon and to everyone as well. Folks like yourself on the Internationalization project are some of our most remarkable contributors because you have to manage up to 3 separate versions, while us meager English users just have our place. --Spencerian 20:49, 21 October 2006 (CDT)
Miniseries Standardization
Of all the episode articles, the Miniseries article is most nonstandard, with much information that has been discussed ad nauseum in many other articles on Battlestar Wiki. As with any episode article, the content should reflect the parts aired, the significant summary of events, and brief questions and analysis generated by the initial broadcast (many of which has been answered).
The current format has extended analysis in the second part, most of which is painfully redundant with Battlestar Galactica (RDM) and many, many other articles. I will be revising both parts to reflect their episodic nature, separating the events in each part, with questions and analysis for each episode. The articles will be renamed based on our current naming procedure in managing multi-part episodes. Both parts will avoid extended questions and analysis as much from the miniseries has been answered, but will point to the episodes and other articles that answer these questions. Any topics or sections that discuss the overall changes between the Re-imagined Series and Original Series will be moved to Battlestar Galactica (RDM) if the item is not already present. --Spencerian 09:28, 25 October 2006 (CDT)
- The Cylons (RDM) article seems as an introduction to the Battlestar Galactica (RDM) as well. Further I also think, that the term Cylon Agent is at the latest obsolete now. Caprica-Six, Galactica-Sharon and Caprica Sharon are the first examples against. Especially Caprica-Sharon could be called a "human agent" now. A Number Five shot Caprica Six because she helped Baltar. German version had the "mercy of the late birth" and did not use the term from the beginning ;o) -- Tirkon 11:34, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
Special Number Three in third season
Since the third season we have one Number Three Character who played and will probably play in future a special role. If I remember correct, it was the same Three, who was slain by Six in Downloaded. We heard that the oracle said, she never should hold the child, because everything will change then. But she did. The first consequence was, that she did not nuke the town. I think, now at the latest we should give her a special name. In the describtions it would be much easier, to identify her. What do you think? And what is about Caprica-Three, because she was introduced there? -- Tirkon 11:18, 26 October 2006 (CDT)
Images
I am not sure why, but my entires on Valkyrie, Eugene Novacek and Admiral Corman which were primarily just images uploaded onto the pages were deleted...I don't get it, doesn't it help to have pictures to refer to the subject the page is discussing. If it is a matter of spoiling future episodes with these pictures, readers are imformed at the top of the page which all of the above mentioned pages have, that the page is a spoiler. If it is my own fault for not siting where i got the images taking them down isn't exactly the answer, why not modify them yourselves. I realize I am a huge amateur so, discussing this for me will help myself and possibly others.
- It's not a spoiler issue at all, and your efforts are appreciated. In this case I believe it was simply a matter of the images being duplicates of images already previously uploaded. I'll see if I can track down the image names so that the articles that you mention can be corrected. --Steelviper 14:49, 9 November 2006 (CST)
- Apparently they can be found at Shane's gallery. --Steelviper 14:55, 9 November 2006 (CST)
