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Archive 1 (May 2nd, 2005 to May 25th, 2006):

I know, I'm just focusing on other things..., Suggestions, Style Conventions, Quote-o-Matic, NPOV?, Fan Fiction, IRC Channel?, How BSG Wiki Compares to Other Wikis, Logo, Quotes link, Article count, Punctuation, Update the spoiler section, Navigation, Main Page Re-org, IMDB Links, Indexing on THE, "Wikipedia", URL Reffer Error, Last.fm now playing image, XHTML, The Community & The Fan Stuff, New Main Page Design, Main Page Same Across different lanauges, BSG Wiki Logo Image location

Archive 2 (May 31st, 2006 to August 5th, 2006):

Friends..., Did you know..., Region 4 Season 2 DVD new Slimline Set, 1900x1200 Res, Proposal to Open Wiki to Unregistered Users, If there was..., Style Sheet Completed, Your Screen Resolution, Quotes, Link to chainki.org Battlestar Galactica pages, Season 3 Teaser, IE v. Firefox, Airdates, CSS with Images

Battlestar Wiki "referenced"

A "little bird" tipped me of to a Scientific American blog entry that referenced Battlestar Wiki. It's kind of dangerous doing a direct link to wiki-content like that, but it's neat that we're being linked to. --Steelviper 07:57, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

For those curious, User:Gmusser is the author of the blog entry. (This can be deduced from the link and the author's name.) --CalculatinAvatar^(C-T) 23:28, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

Question: Should we be annoyed that someone used BattlestarWiki material in their magazine like that, or does it not matter because they're things he contributed to, or what?--The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 23:35, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

It doesn't strike me as a bad thing. Of course, I didn't check to see if the very similar wording was originally contributed by him; I'd imagine it was, so it'd be all positive. To work in a nitpick, so far as I can tell, it's not in the magazine, just online in their blog. --CalculatinAvatar^(C-T) 04:41, 8 August 2006 (CDT)

External images not working amnymore

See my user page. All external images are no just showing as links --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 08:54, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

That sounds like it's probably a Mediawiki setting that can be toggled. --Steelviper 09:02, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, it happened to me, as well; I tend to assume the same thing about the cause. --CalculatinAvatar^(C-T) 23:13, 7 August 2006 (CDT)

Ive also noticed some odd things like the <nowki> tags and stuff arnt working properly, take a look at the box on the edit page where you can click the special characters and also the summaries on the recent edits. Has the wiki software been updated in the last few days to maybe have caused these little glitches? --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 16:40, 10 August 2006 (CDT)

I attempted to invoke {{tl}} once or twice in edit summaries if that's what you mean, but I was forgetting that templates are not supposed to work in edit summaries. (It would do unfortunate things to upload summaries, for one thing.) --CalculatinAvatar^(C-T) 17:29, 10 August 2006 (CDT)

No this is something thats happened very recently. Edit this page and look at the bottom of the page. The code to add to your edits now is wrapped with <nowiki></nowiki> when it shoudl'nt parse that only the actual code in between. Its hard to explain but i think its related to the images not showing up Something has changed in the last week to make this all happen. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 02:56, 11 August 2006 (CDT)

I'll look into this... it's probably a setting issue since I upgraded the Wiki software to MediaWiki 1.7.1. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 09:55, 11 August 2006 (CDT)

Something else ive noticed. When you search for an article that has no page yet. Eg http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Wooyay it automaticly takes you to the edit page http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Wooyay&action=edit --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 05:30, 13 August 2006 (CDT)

Actually, that was a change I made... I was trying to see something. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 18:31, 13 August 2006 (CDT)

I should have mentioned this but I noticed that if I hit ENTER key intead of clicking SEARCH, it gives the same behavior that Mercifull reports. (Maybe I shouldn't do that??).--FrankieG 19:05, 13 August 2006 (CDT)

QotD

The quote is in need of an update. Would anybody be willing to do the honors? --Kevin W. 16:33, 13 August 2006 (CDT)

Often I have to do a Crtl-F5 in IE on one of my computers to get it to refresh the QotD. --FrankieG 18:15, 13 August 2006 (CDT)

Depends on where you live also. --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 18:18, 13 August 2006 (CDT)

First person...

To get http://media.battlestarwiki.org/ active on their computer gets a cookie. :) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 04:36, 14 August 2006 (CDT)

I win. Got it working 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 04:04, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

I'm sorry, but I stole your cookie. Now I need some milk... :-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 18:33, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

New Season 3 Teaser

During the SG-1 200th episode. Did someone capture this?! There was some shots that were not in the ... well original one. :-D --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 19:23, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

I will DVR the 1:00AM repeat. Thanks for the heads ups. --FrankieG 19:30, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

it's a SciFi and Monk night. :-) (almost got the subdomains working with joe cept I have to do some reading so rewriting rules) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 19:36, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

This is the special. Not the episode it self, but I would get the show also. :) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 19:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

For some unexplicable reason, I didn't check the guide, like I always do on friday, when I got home or I would have been watching it (the special). I always DVR the 'Gates. --FrankieG 19:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

Did a quick writeup for the one on SG1-200 here.--FrankieG 20:54, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

I Tivo'ed it on the first wave, some shots of Gatea, more Tigh (He's the "narrator") a great shot of Boomer (After entering the prison), Six. It was great, I haven't watched it again since I recorded it, but I will in a while (obviousley). --Sauron18 21:48, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

Is this it? http://www.lucylawless.info/battlestar-galactica/episodetrailers.html --DrBat 19:12, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

No, that is the Eureka teaser, which some of shots are in the this new one. --FrankieG 19:34, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

"Media" Uploading

Now active. You can head over the the Media Wiki, sign up (with your same name), and start uploading. You won't be able to link the images to any articles pages just yet, but you can tag the image and upload them correctly for now. :) Enjoy! :) (Anyone have any ideas for a Main Page design?) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 20:21, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

I was thinking of a smaller version of the Main Page design we have now. That would be fine by me. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 21:02, 20 August 2006 (CDT)

Techincal

Typo under Sister Projects. --FrankieG 09:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

I would have fixed it but I (being DUH!) couldn't figure out how to get to the page. When I click on the icon button beside "Sister" it stays on the home page. --FrankieG 11:25, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

doh. my fault. I'll change it in the BW:MAIN project so it won't happen again :-) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 11:30, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

Fix is up on main page. Battlestar Wiki: 1 Confusing Navigation: 0. --Steelviper 12:10, 22 August 2006 (CDT)

Search Box

Merc and others have been suggestion to me that we move the search box after the "navigation" box. Just wanted to get some option before I made such a move. Let me know. :-) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 12:18, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

I'd lean towards "movin' on up". It's on my screen at 1280x1024, but I can imagine it'd easily fall off smaller resolutions, and it's pretty useful for getting around (especially once you're used to shortcuts, etc.) I'm really enjoying the bsgMonoBook, by the way! I'm less enthused about the color scheme than I am the fact that we've got a choice now. If you don't like it, you can always run your own skin (now). --Steelviper 12:22, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

Support as per discussion on gtalk. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 13:03, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

Good idea. --FrankieG 16:00, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

Yeah, move it up, please. Just had the same idea. --Pedda 16:26, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

k. It will likly happen later tonight when go gets to do a nother update of the files. :) --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 16:27, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

Styles: Font style in edit box

I'm used to the fixed-width typeface in the editing box. Is this a new characteristic of the three skin options? I like the CSS for the most part, but it would be better to see text with a fixed width option more characteristic of wikis. Also, the Preview header text "This is only a preview; changes have not yet been saved!" shown in a article edit mode with the default BSG skin is so dark in my Firefox browser as to be unreadable. --Spencerian 16:37, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

Characterostic - Yes. I can change to what font. I am starting to hate the font in here myself because I can't see the wiki code very well. So give me a font and I will change it. Preview text - Sending to Joe for an upload. Minor mistake on my part. Anything else? --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 16:47, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

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-== Friends... ==
-What does another site have to do, really, to get on our little "Friends" list? I just wondered if there were any rules or... what? I thought, since we link Memory Alpha, that it might be appropriate to link the [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Wookieepedia], seeing as how it's another huge Wiki about a popular SciFi universe (or Space Opera, but let's not split hairs). Anyway... What's the story? --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 00:03, 31 May 2006 (CDT)
-:Well.. I created the "friends" section to hightlight sites that have a lot of common elements to each other. Gateworld - Learn about most BSG News Here. MA - A lot of the Actors/Crew have down work in Star Trek and BSG is compared to Star Trek. Wikipedia - Has large sections of just everything. inlcuding the templates, and styles we use on the site. This is my unoffical policy of the friends section bear in mind. I wouldn't just put any old site on this section unless if it did had a significant impact on the subject matter at hand. I don't see alot of Star Wars references in this Wiki. That's why I would not put that site in this section. Plus we have a thing with {{tl|gateworldphoto}} and I think Joe is talking or might soon be talking with {{tl|memoryalphaphoto}}. We use alot of the same common images. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:21, 31 May 2006 (CDT)
-:: Ah. Now I know. Fair enough. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 01:56, 31 May 2006 (CDT)
-:::The star wars wiki is totally messed up anyway. Continuity to chopped to shreds. Films, guides, novels, animated series... --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:05, 13 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::Well, ''our'' wiki is ''your'' wiki's friend, anyway.  Stop by sometime.  --[[User:DianeDuane|DianeDuane]] 11:09, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
-:::::I don't mean that it's the fault of the wiki owners or admins or anything, I just mean that Mr Lucas has created a complete mish mash up of events and continuities. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 04:27, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
-::::::Have to disagree there. Ever visited Memory Alpha, the Star Trek site? Now '''that's''' a really fscked up world. Star Wars, in comparison, is almost as orderly as "Babylon 5." Almost. Lucas does a remarkably better job at keeping continuity, but Star Trek has hardly tried. I can't visit Memory Alpha out of fear that my head will explode from the ''concept'' of making a wiki from all of that mess... :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:19, 1 August 2006 (CDT)
-== Did you know... ==
-So I was thinking of adding a "Did You Know..." section under the "Airdates" section (if for no other reason than that space is not used), but I couldn't figure it out. I have some ides for Did You Know...s, so if someone else has already started working on this, lemme know. Just while I'm thinking of it, I'll post what's in my head now right here. Otherwise I'll forget.
-::'''Did You Know...'''
-::*...that [[Wikipedia:Thrace|Thrace]] is a geographic area somewhat north of [[Wikipedia:Greece|Greece]]?
-::*...that both [[Zak Adama]] and [[Ellen Tigh]] have been portrayed by two different actors?
-::*...that [[Karl Agathon|Helo]] was originally never intended to appear after being left on [[Caprica]] in the [[Miniseries]]?
-::*...that [[Samuel Anders]]' last name is derived from the Greek word for "Man"?
-I thought of some more while I was typing that. Anyway... there's those. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 23:37, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
-: Oh. I just now saw that there's a "Did you know..." section on the RDM portal... Is there a reason not to put it over here and include questions from all continuities? --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 23:39, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
-::I still like the idea of "did you know" on the front page. I can add it to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Main page|main page project]]. Under what section is the question. With the news being so long it is really tough. Right now I am working on the cite.php file to see if I can place the refernces in another area (new section on the front page - also see [[Battlestar Wiki:Main page#Current Design|current design]]) so they would not interfere with the disuption of the news elements with the left side coloum. Plus I think the airdates will get longer once our internationial users start putting up their airdates. So everything will balance out I think for Season 3. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:48, 2 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::I'll get right on it.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 07:52, 3 June 2006 (CDT)
-==Region 4 Season 2 DVD new Slimline Set==
-Can we please include the new Region 4 release set for 16 August 2006 for Australia [http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/787854]. This is an Australian Store. I have made several edits in the Mini series and Season 1 DVD set to include the Region 2, 4, and 5. Im unsure that it includes all episodes, but i would assume it would be the case as for it being Season 2 not Season 2.0, and having a price tag of AU$80 and of course being released after the full season 2 was aired. --[[User:Lgamser|Lgamser]] 23:35, 13 June 2006 (CDT)
-== 1900x1200 Res ==
-I just got my cable installed from Comcast today, and this site looks REALLY well on this big screen (24") computer monitor I have. It looks very good! :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:34, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
-== Proposal to Open Wiki to Unregistered Users ==
-I think the time has come, or close to it to re-open the Wiki to all users without the need to register. We have the tools, the policy, the people, to support a full time 24/7 operation of keeping the wiki in check. We also have the most imporatnat policy [[BW:PRO]] (in progress) for information to be keeped sucure. With the summer starting and October coming up quickly and the new found acess to the [[BW:OC]] page, it would be nice to see some other contribuations from real outsiders.
-I don't know if this should be done right away, but we need some sort of guidelines worked on in [[BW:PRO]] and possaibliy [[BW:IP]] and we would need [[BW:PRI]] up and voted on. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:04, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
-:The problem, as Joe and others (before Joe created admin status to the wiki last fall) can vouch, involves zombie PCs that are used to spam the wiki by anonymous editing. Spammers don't adhere to policy, and nothing we write will keep a spammer from making a mess of things. We were hit a lot last summer by this problem until Joe restricted anonymous editing. Spammers still get on, but now they have to make a more concerted effort, and it appears its hardly worth their time. The latest MediaWiki update might have further flummoxed them, as well. I'm for requiring registered users; IPs are too anonymous, and I want to credit or blame someone for changes, as well as not have some yahoo wreck months of everyone's work. We really aren't on here 24/7, so I can't say that's an effective argument for reinstating this. We see quite a number of new users each week, and the rate increases when new episodes are in play, so I can't see how opening what is already an open wiki (registration needed) will do. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:23, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
-::We are 24/7. Usually when most of us are asleep Mercifull is online and same with Ford. Our Euorpe is base is growing. [[BW:PRO|Protecting]] important pages [[BW:SAC]] and such can be protected. If people where giving the oppertunity to prove themself instead of admins & users hiding behind the curtain of signing up. I don't see alot of vandlism at the Memory Alpha wiki which has open editing. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:28, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::I've expressed before, in my 3rd Administratorsship election, that I think we would get more contributions if we switched back to allowing all people to contribute.  As for spammers being a problem:  MemoryAlpha (The Star Trek Wiki) is open content and they are able to police their wiki against these problems quite well. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 19:09, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::I think it's an unnecessary risk, there are many people out there who would just join to mess things up. You of all people know this Merv. Also, for the past few months I have noticed that some people's thoughts about the wookie have changed to the negative. I don't think we are really in an information-full time where we need to allow unregistered users edit pages and be allowed to vote in wiki decisions. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 22:29 23 June (CDT)
-:::::Even on Memory Alpha, unregistered users are not counted in actual site votes.  You need an account.  People's thoughts about the wiki have changed "to the negative"?  If you're referring to the Moist Board gang such as loraque & Co, they're a dozen trolls that no one takes seriously, sauron.  I don't need to tell you that :) --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 22:36, 23 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::::My opinion is stated, I simply consider it an unnecessary risk. --[[User:Sauron18|Sauron18]] 00:48 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::::::Perhaps its something we could do as a trial period at some point after series 3 has started. At the moment i fear that if we open to all people would just be posting unsourced spoilers and fanfiction relating to series 3. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 04:47, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::::::Bad idea! BAAAAAD idea! It doesnt take a lot to register here - and with registered users, it means that if someone does post junk or whatnot, it's easy enough to block them from making edits and by being registered users, they have the added benefit of being part of the community - rather than fly by night posters. Just my 2p :) --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 07:18, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::::::::I agree with Ford. Merciful's idea might be a nice compromise. However, I don't see how the theoritical postives (maybe someone will post who would not otherwise) outweighs the known bads (vandalism and spamming will increase). There is very little that the great group of existing contributers miss. Is there a way to allow limited anonymous posting? Maybe to a "lost and found" page for info that the regular contributers may have missed. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:23, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::::::::::I like Mercifull's idea. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 10:47, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::::::::Personally, I don't fully agree with the idea that the more we open the wiki the more good contributors we'll get. Wikipedia, for instance, has a serious problem with anonymous IPs vandalizing Wikipedia with nonsense edits. (Sometimes they are minor and don't get caught for days, despite all the people that do RC patrol.) I'm more concerned with the quality of our editors and our articles than the quantity of either. If I may steal something that SV previously mentioned, we're scored on how well we do things, not on how timely they are. This doesn't mean that I'm not open for seeing whether or not we can relax some of the restrictions to editing, but before we just open the floodgates, we need to have a plan of action. Right now, it would be to our benefit to plan, seeing as this is our "downtime". -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:18, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::::::::: What can I say? I agree with Joe. I think, too, that unregistered editing tested in the middle of a season would be dangerous. That is a time when we'll be getting a lot of attention (as opposed to now) and if we have some kind of melt down due to the test, we'd really be shooting ourselves in the foot. I'm much, much more concerned with quality over quantity. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 22:36, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-=== Poll on Mercifull's Idea ===
-'''Support'''
-* {{Support}} [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:04, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-'''Oppose'''
-* {{oppose}} --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 22:34, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-* {{oppose}} A change like this should be a long-term committment. Either it works or it doesn't. I'm not fond on chasing down vandals or their ill-work over 1,299 articles, either. Once a zombie is in, their automation could spam EVERY. SINGLE. ARTICLE. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:18, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-* {{oppose}} --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:40, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-* {{oppose}} --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 18:44, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-I just want to comment that it was just an idea I was posting about. It was not meant as a formal proposal as I did not think it all though fully at the time of posting --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 14:48, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-:Try not to take it personally. I don't think a referendum on this topic is out of line at all - I just happen to oppose it. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:50, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-::I'm not taking it personally dont worry. I just wasnt especting for people to have a vote on a passing thought lol --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 15:37, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-== If there was... ==
-[[Image:Forum Example.jpg|thumb|150px]]
-http://forum.battlestarwiki.org
-What would you ''like'' as your fourm format?
-* Stylized BSG Format
-* Seperate "Username" Database
-** Found no plugin for sharing databases (sorry!)
-* [http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=119241 "Wiki" Generation Links on the Forum]
-* Used for non-pertaining Wiki discusstions
-* ''Add your suggestion on this list...''
---[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 08:09, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-* Strictly administered. I'm tired of moronic conversations on other unnamed boards. I like the idea though. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 09:11, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-*I do not understand what you are proposing.  If it's a subforum of some kind, we don't really need one. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 10:50, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-* This was proposed a while ago, I think, but we realized that none of the decent reasons for having a forum could not also be served by things that already exist. The Wiki, itsself, provides an infrastructure for discussing editing, etc. There are plenty of fora for discussing the show in a non-Wiki setting (allowing for wide-ranging speculation without worrying that people might think you're proposing inclusion of your craziness in an artile) and ours would just be in competition with them. If you want to get to know your fellow contributers, many share their AIM screen names and/or email addresses, and for those that don't, you could always ask. I guess what I'm saying is that I think the idea is kind of needless. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 22:40, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-**I agree with Day. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 08:10, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-*I found [http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=112973 this thread] with some information on merging databases which might be useful should people decide to have a forum here. Its a nice idea but i dont know if this place really has the demand for a forum right now? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 03:29, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-* The main reason I'd be interested in a forum would be as a possible way to get feedback from the "users". As easy as we think it is to edit a talk page, the whole "Wiki edit" system (and the user registration) is really intimidating for a lot of folks that might have some really relevent things to say. I'd like to find some way for the people that primarily read the wiki (rather than edit it) to have a voice. A forum isn't necessarily the only solution for this, but it is one possibility. The danger of the forum, of course, being that wiki-matters might get brought up there and not end up being discussed at the proper location on the wiki as well. The transparency of the decision-making, criticism, communication, etc. is one of the wiki's great strengths, and I would not want to jeopardize that. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:04, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-**I think thats one of the benefits of these mediawiki modifications for the forum in that you can link very easily to wiki pages. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 08:12, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-* I agree with SV. Also, I think that "learning" may be easier through a forum. Like an interactive formatting thread, or a NPOV thread, etc. with questions and answer.  --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 08:14, 26 June 2006 (CDT).
-* For God's sake, no. One of the best things about the wiki is that all discussion takes place on talk pages here, and is easily visible by anyone - visitor or editor. I don't want to have to go to an entirely separate site to see discussions. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:54, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-**it is however a good way for administrators to communicate with each other securely --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 15:45, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::Peter is correct that the open nature is healthy. Unlike other communities that shall remain nameless (*cough* skiffy *cough*) you get to see all the "deliberations" out in plain sight so there is no confusion as to why an action was taken. That's really refreshing. My biggest argument for an off-wiki means of communication was for giving a voice to those who can't/won't deal with the Wiki-editing UI. Which, theoretically we might be able to overcome through other means (some sort of a "suggestion box" page with a simple text window input, for example). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:02, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::I would expect the forum to be more off topic/chat type of place rather than relating directly to the wiki. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 16:19, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-== Style Sheet Completed ==
-The style sheet and new "look" of BSG elements is done. You can view the style [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/hangarbay/index.php/Main_Page here], but their is no content. Once the style sheet is upload to this wiki, I am sure you will see a huge difference along with some major edits to change most of the elemtns into CSS. Myself and Mercifull have been working on this for a while. A "Mediawiki" color look will also be created. We will also create a "Template" page of the new CSS so people know the class of each element that is in the CSS in-case you are not familmar with CSS code. That's about it. The wiki is "open" edit so you can fool around with the new style. The images are not transfered yet (i.e. the new Site images) because I am working on the code to make sure they are loaded differently from the default. No images also work on the site. Comments on the [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Main page|main page]] project page. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:50, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-: Will this style sheet effort also be taking care of the non-default styles? I understand that the white background one is somewhat popular, as well, and so we'd want to alter the SS that it's working off of to interpret new classes into aesthetically synchronous colors, etc. I applaud the two of your for doing this. I kept wanting to, but was also feeling kind of daunted by the need to support multiple style sheets (that's a lot of CSSing!). --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 22:46, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-::The CSSing while be a problem because there are some many things to change. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:52, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-::: I thought... it was "Completed" already. Perhaps the verb "to CSS" is unclear. I envisioned it meaning the writing of the .css file specifically, not any connected changes to HTML. That miscommunication is probably my fault. Anyway, if you want to delegate something related to this project to me, I play well with CSS and XHTML, so I don't think I'd break anything irreparably. I also don't want to barge in and mess things up if you and Merciful have got a little groove going on, or something. Lemme know. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 23:51, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::CSS refers to <tt>class=</tt> and not <tt>id=</tt>. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:05, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::::You must be confused. CSS selectors can select elements by both class and ID. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:22, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::: Indeed. CSS refers to Cascading Style Sheets. And, anyway, that distinction doesn't seem to relate to my post in the least. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 23:26, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-== Your Screen Resolution ==
-Just before I take my vacation here, I want to know your screen resolution. Just incress the count or add your if it's not there. Thanks.
-* 800x600 - 1
-* 1024x728 - 4
-* 1280x1024 - 3
-* 1280x800 - 1
-* 1400x1050 - 2
-* 1600x1200 - 1
-* 1680x1050 - 1
-* 1900x1200 - 1
---[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:46, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-:Comment: As a mac user, I am unaccustomed to running my web browser at any fixed size. I strongly oppose any redesign which would require moving to fixed widths. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 23:21, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-::This is not dealing with the website. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:40, 26 June 2006 (CDT)
-:: I am in Peter's boat as well, seeing as I edit on a G4 and typically have two browser windows opened side-by-side. (Particularly helpful when you're accessing online sources and writing an article at the same time.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 10:04, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-::Ditto. I use a Mac laptop. A Mac's higher resolution means that we usually see a website in a not-so-flattering manner. In the case of a screen saver, it would be best to offer one that works in the wider dimensions that all LCD Macs offer. That is, instead of 1024x768, make a 1024x640, or a 1152x720. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:26, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::Shane is/was working on screensavers (win32 for now, but possibly mac in the future), and was looking at what size of background images, etc. he needed, I think. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:19, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::This is irrelevant, but as a factual matter, Mac screens tend to have lower resolutions than comparably sized non-Mac screens. (The reason is preservation of 72dpi for graphic artists or somesuch, and this is not meant as flamebait.) I think you mean the aspect ratio is higher, as a 14" widescreen is physically smaller than a 14" 4:3 display and is thus likely to have a lower resolution. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 01:04, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-I use a 17" 1280x1024 5:4 TFT for daily use, 1680x1050 20.5" 16:10 TFT on another machine (not mine) and 1400x1050 5:4 on my laptop (Compaq Evo N180c) --[[User:Fordsierra4x4|Fordsierra4x4]] 18:47, 27 June 2006 (CDT)
-:1400x1050 is 4:3 (factor of 350). --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 01:04, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-== Quotes ==
-I was thinking... if someone spots a typo in the quote of the day, there's no easy way for them to edit it. Should we make an (edit this) link in the title bar that's unobtrusive, or at least, maybe, make the title a link to [[Battlestar Wiki:Quotes]]? That do folks think? --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 02:40, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-:Click the little "quotes" [[Image:BSG WIKI Quotes.png|20px]] icon and it takes you right to the page for the current QOTD. Then you just gotta wait a couple of mins for the wiki to update the main page. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:09, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-::You can also "force" a refresh, by adding "&action=purge" to the url, and running it. Some of the portals have a "refresh" button that do that very thing (more for refreshing the "subpages" that make up the portals). Regarding the main page links, Day is correct that there isn't a link to BW:QUOTE if you were looking to add to future quotes (or browse through the existing quotes). It might be nice to find a way to get that link in there somewhere. The icon link to the current day's quote is neat, though.--[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:51, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::I think a link to the main quotes page would be quite a cool feature to have on the left menu in the projects section --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 07:58, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-:::: The icon being a link is great and all, but I find it entirely counter-intuitive. I, obviously, would never have guessed that it was there, and I imagine other users would think similarly. Can we brainstorm more straight-forward ideas, too? --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 19:44, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-::::: I would never have guessed it either. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:34, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
-== Link to chainki.org Battlestar Galactica pages ==
-I have just set up the wiki [http://www.chainki.org chainki.org] which amongst other things contains a bunch of [http://en.chainki.org/index.php?title=Battlestar_Galactica_Series Battlestar Galactica pages].  Two things:
-# I'd love to see a link from your site to the Battlestar Galactica pages there, but I'm not sure where to put it.  Could you please add such a link to your site?  Thanks.
-# I don't see your website there!  Get to it battlestarites!  (You could even be the first people ever to create an account and add a link)
-[[User:Brusselsshrek|Brusselsshrek]] 10:23, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
-:I added a link to the BSG pages in the [[Battlestar Wiki:Community Portal|Community Portal]] link area, and added Battlestar Wiki to the BSG section at Chainki. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:43, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
-::Great!  Thanks Steelviper.  You have the honour of adding the first ever link to chainki.  Hopefully not the last either.  Bit easier than the Dmoz submission process eh? :-)  [[User:Brusselsshrek|Brusselsshrek]] 10:49, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
-== Season 3 Teaser ==
-Eureka has already been shown, and the teaser for Season 3 has been seen. There is nothing updated about this on the entire site. Not even mentioned on SciFi.com's Galactica site.
-No details about the teaser. No locations online to see it. Further, near complete absence of discussion about it, as well as what the teaser concludes to some of the ideas posted about Season 3. It's new information, and allows plenty of speculation. I am not Wiki experienced to know exactly how these things are put in place. So what should be done here?
-Is it not fair to assume that the images and dialogue in the teaser should be added in some way to the Season 3 page? Shouldn't there be an update in Fleet news about it, as well as a link to see the trailer online?
---[[User:AJFederation|AJFederation]] 07:14, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
-:I saw an advanced screening of the trailer in early June, and have already updated the Season 3 page with info from it.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 09:53, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
-:See [[Talk:Season 3 (2006-07)#BSG Teaser on Eureka]]. I don't think they've posted the trailer up on Scifi or otherwise officially released it. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:20, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
-:I stand corrected. There is a link to the last minutes of Eureka plus the trailer over at Scifi... but it's buried in javascript. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:23, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
-::[http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?p=6038707 Forum Thread with youtube link]. (Look where the thread starter got their information about the trailer happening. Neat.) I don't think we should link to anything but the official scifi released video in the article(s) though. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:28, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
-::: We started discussing it [[Talk:Season 3 (2006-07)#BSG Teaser on Eureka | here]] three days ago on July 18. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 08:02, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
-::::An [http://www.megaupload.com/?d=72SJYT52 unoffical download source] of higher quality (not for front page posting). Still trying to find the trailer on the scifi.com site. It's in the little banner on the BSG video page, but I can't find it once I click the link. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:35, 21 July 2006 (CDT)
-::Okay. So I guess the last thing is getting the official trailer link. Of course if there are tweaks between the two teasers, it would be nice to be able to see both. So far I can't find anything on the web from the MTR teaser. --[[User:AJFederation|AJFederation]] 11:19, 23 July 2006 (CDT)
-== IE v. Firefox ==
-Another survey.
-*IE Users - 2
-*Firefox Users - 4
-*Rogue Opera Users - 1
-Updated the count. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:21, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
-=== Comment ===
-Only if you use more than one browser.
-* IE at work, FF at home --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 12:24, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
-* typically, Firefox on XP and Opera on Gentoo --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 13:02, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
-== Airdates ==
-I was going though... and the airdates for the US and the UK are out of wack. Some episodes state that they are on the same day, and I don't remember this ever happening unless... I was on drugs, which I do not do. So I am going through all the episodes fixing the dates. For the UK, someone going to have to do a check on the UK side. I don't understand those at all. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:20, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
-:UK Airdates are complete in the Episode Template I am working on. I'll update or someone else can the new dates that I gotten off IMDB that is fine too. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:40, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
-== CSS with Images ==
-Well... I turned the hangerbay have images: http://www.battlestarwiki.org/hangarbay/index.php/Main_Page
-This will give you a much better idea on how it would turn out. Talk [[Battlestar Wiki:Think Tank/CSS Layout|here]] still to keep everything together. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:58, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
 == Battlestar Wiki "referenced" ==