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Sciffy Thread

I reported your discovery here. I gave you credit for the find, of course, and hoped that the extra eyes on the subject might help shed some light on the "other" ship. --Steelviper 21:16, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Excellent. The more eyes on it, the better. Seven letters appear to be the key, so Olympus is possible. I haven't used my Sciffy account in months.... --Spencerian 08:02, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Units of Measure (TOS)

Argh, I hate edit conflicts! Was working on that one at the same time you were. :) JubalHarshaw 12:23, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Sorry about that! You have the same thoughts as I do; merging like content that otherwise make articles that are too general and not wiki-specific. I'm working on Squadrons of Galactica right now. --Spencerian 12:44, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Guyle Fraizer as Colonial One co-pilot

Hi there, my source for that is actually that I know Guyle personally (and yes, the one you found on the IMDB is the right one, I'm apparently just an idiot and spelled his name wrong), and he and I talked about it a few times. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zeppo (talk • contribs).

A Comment From Mrs. Ron

Terry Dresbach, a.k.a, "Mrs. Ron" on the Skiffy boards, appreciated my comments on Battlestar's wrap-up season. Given the many messages in this fast-growing thread, I'm humbled that she noticed it. Her response sums up everything that I loved about the new series. It has given us a great ride, and so long as Ron has a stogie and scotch handy, we'll see more good things from him. --Spencerian 10:33, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree. It would be nice to go on, but in the long run it's better to end it on a high point. The main thing I'm disappointed about is that the rest of the show will probably revolve around the search for Earth and the Final Five. Which are far from my favorite themes in the show. I initially liked that it placed character over story and that seems to have changed. But I digress.

Anyways, I'm indifferent to the usual fan outrage as well these days, and even distanced myself a bit from message boards where constant whining seems to be the norm. When an outstanding show really hasn't been give a chance, I can get behind campaigns and be sad, but a three-hour miniseries, 4 seasons and a TV movie are really more than fair these days. If people want to think that the show was directly canceled by the network that is, as usual, to be expected; I'm willing to give the producers the benefit of the doubt. --Serenity 11:18, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Whining is the norm everywhere (except here) at this point, dude --BklynBruzer 12:38, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I don't provide any cheese for all that whine, myself. I'm glad that we're not (yet) seeing a spike because of the news, but that may change. --Spencerian 14:28, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Your comments were great, Spencerian. It basically sums up how I feel. Personally, any time I see a worthwhile TV show survive the dreaded "Firefly" 1 season curse, I smile. Haters will complain about whatever is available; if a show ends, they'll cry about that - if it continues and "doesn't live up", they'll cry about that. Misery loves company. Just another reason to avoid forums. I'd rather be here doing something constructive. JubalHarshaw 14:45, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Agreed. This place is much more fun. And there is so many roads to go in finding Earth. There is going to be a meeting of minds (and maybe more) in what the Cylons and Colonials truly mean to each other. And it may even leave the story just a little open for a backstory. Just my opinion, but You Heard It Here First. :) Terry notes that, in her opinion, Caprica will not make it. But there are so many shows that could use a "re-imagining". As one Slashdot writer said about Ron's abilities: "If I heard he was going to re-imagine The Phone Book, I'd watch it." --Spencerian 14:52, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

That's what I was thinking too: Ron and his people have made one hell of a name for themselves, if they decide to start another project, Sci Fi will happily accept it. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 05:58, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

How about this? --BklynBruzer 08:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I guess that depends on how S4 is gonna end. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 09:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I am honestly happy to say that I'm pleased with this announcement, and I'm glad that your comments were appreciated by the right people. ;-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 14:56, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the welcome :)

Hey, thanks for the welcome, glad you liked my site :) (even if it badly needs rewriting from scratch...) and yep, my aspergersish pedantism about detail would just not let me leave the page on accents saying Aerilon accent was "diluted northern english" when it was a Yorkshire accent (got one or two friends living there), so that's why I created an account! Oh, and happy birthday!!! :) take care, Marianne 10:18, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

INTJ

First, happy birthday! Second, my wife just took the myers-briggs yesterday (during her residency orientation), and came out INTJ. I took it in college for a software engineering class (and maybe again in ROTC) and came out INTP. The J, though, will come into play at a later date. (This won't make sense until later, but being a wiki... this is not that unusual.) --Steelviper 13:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy birthday! I am seriously considering adding a jungtype= field to Template:User Data, seriously. Doing the test myself as well, 102 questions take some time though. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:51, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy birthday! -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:48, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks, everyone! I tried to do something other than the wiki to celebrate... --Spencerian 09:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Y'all have got me curious now about this test. Is there a place I can take it online? --BklynBruzer 09:29, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Sure. The Myers-Briggs-based test is here. The morality test is here (both links are from Marianne's home page). On a side note, my test was given professionally many years ago, so I'm more apt to continue noting my INTJ class than any that are generated here. --Spencerian 09:43, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy late B-Day! I was away for a while. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 16:08, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

For the record, I'm an ISTP. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

ENTJ here. That's it, I'm definitely gonna do the jungtype field tomorrow. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 16:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

ESTP. --BklynBruzer 17:32, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

WTLFM (Way to long for me). :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 19:48, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Interesting one. In other words, you scored RGDL? --BklynBruzer 20:04, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

The INTJs can take solace in that, if he were real, Gandalf would be an INTJ, and that worked out pretty well for him. :) My scores keep oscillating between INTP, ISTP and INTJ. I like being weird as an INTJ, frankly. I just don't want everyone else to know about it. :/ --Spencerian 10:47, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

Question about commas

I noticed some weird comma placement in your edits. You always write things "In the episode, "Downloaded",..."

Why is there a comma in front of the episode title? Is this some specific grammar rule I don't know about? Because to me it doesn't make any sense to put a comma there. It isn't a separate sentence part and there shouldn't be a pause there. Neither is the episode title a parenthesis, since the sentence doesn't make sense without it :) --Serenity 05:28, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

You're right...it's likely a mental thing. I should write it "In the episode "Downloaded", there was this thing." I suspect I write it that way because episode titles "throw off" the grammar of the sentence when I read them, although they are names and are just objects of the sentence. As a result, I put in a pause to mentally set off the title to prevent confusing it as a element that forms the message of the sentence. It's like this example.

In the episode "You Should Have Watched Yesterday", Tom dies."

The quotations are supposed to set the episode apart, but it never works for me. Not that I should go and reinvent English grammar, however. I'll work my way out of the two-comma habit. --Spencerian 13:20, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Ah ok. That makes some sense. It wasn't meant as huge criticism and you don't have to go around changing everything. Just something I noticed and wondered about. --Serenity 13:25, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

By the way, I think commas go inside quotes --BklynBruzer 21:54, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

For episodes, I think any punctuation goes outside the quotes/parenthesis unless separating more than one episode. --Veepz 22:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, generally we use American punctuation, though personally I hate it, since it doesn't make sense either. But we decided to make an exception for episode titles, since they aren't really quotes. It just looks bad to put the punctuation inside in that case. --Serenity 05:17, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

I'm having a strange sense of de'ja vu. I just got used to putting punctuation OUTSIDE of quotes after the change. If this is a serious point, let's move it back to BW:SAC. I think we're nitpicking...we just need to be consistent, at least in any one article. --Spencerian 12:34, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

User Image

Best one so far! :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 11:02, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

And not one bit of Photoshop! Note the squeegee! --Spencerian 11:52, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

yay! ya.. i noticed that the first time around. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 12:04, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

So sorry...

It was a good game. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 15:19, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Well, can't have everything. I'm rooting for the Packers. They always have heart and deserve it. --Spencerian 17:54, 13 January 2008 (CST)

The NFC game will be interesting. Friends here @ work are putting NYG over GB 3 to 1, however, both teams are evenly match. One is good at passing, the other running. Both play in snow, cold weather. The SD v. Pats game is a joke. SD should forfeit now. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 23:03, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Proud Cheesehead, here! It'll be interesting to see the looks I get from my fellow New Yorkers while I wear my Packers paraphernalia. --BklynBruzer 09:08, 14 January 2008 (CST)

Matrix etc. :)

http://battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=4381&postcount=7 ... Look @ 217kb image. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 02:31, 25 January 2008 (CST)

Thriller?

Latest comment: 16 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

My sources tell me that you perform a mean "Thriller" dance... Have an interesting story behind that? :D -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 05:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Oh, no. It almost makes me happy that I can't go to DragonCon this year. Mind you, dancing in a deckhand jumpsuit is intimidating enough, not to mention hot. But wait a minute...did I dance to that song? All that alcohol make things so blurry... :) --Spencerian 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

hahah! Shane (talk) 16:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Recent problems

Hey again, Spencerian--I hope you are well. About a month ago, you said that the wiki would be going to a standby mode or something (I don't remember the details and I can't check them because every attempt to access my talk page results in an error message). Do you know if the recent problems (main page and inability to edit a few other pages plus the aforementioned talk page, in addition to ongoing French and German site issues) are related to this "standby mode"? Are they continuations of older problems? Anything you can do to shed light on this would help. Thanks, and happy holidays! -- BlueResistance 19:27, 13 December 2014 (EST)

Hello Spencerian! Sorry I didn't see your message on my talk page literally years ago, but thanks for the message. I do check in here every so often. That the wiki is still online makes me happy and almost unbearable nostalgic for times past. I suppose I should ask Joe what might be needed to help keep this online as I'm Facebook friends with him. I hope all is well with you and yours! JubalHarshaw 21:55, 14 February 2016 (EST)

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 ''For discussions prior to January 1, 2006, [http://battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASpencerian&diff=21890&oldid=21664 click here.]''
-== Citation Jihad ==
+''For discussions prior to June 1, 2006, [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=60768 click here.]''
-I hope my update settles the origin of the word "Godfrey". --[[User:Dreamer|dreamer]] 10:00, 9 February 2006 (EST)
+''For discussions prior to September 1, 2006, [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=75116 click here.]''
-:Your update appears more accurate than any thus far, and with source. Nice work. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:52, 9 February 2006 (EST)
-:: Thank you, I also provided a source for Moore's comment about battlestar groups, buried a few paragraphs down inside the January 20 2005, 11:59 PM blog post  (I always thought that.. to ...and smaller carriers as well.) --[[User:Dreamer|dreamer]] 18:48, 9 February 2006 (EST)
+''For discussions prior to December 18, 2006, [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=93841 click here.]''
-== Thanks ==
+''For discussions prior to May 9, 2007,
+[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=121460 click here.]
-For your comment and the welcome! Admittedly the entry walks a thin line in terms of RDM relativity and redundancy, however I believe it's one BSG fans are interested in, it provides a more general background for all things BSG and through it perhaps a better understanding of the series. Of course I may be part of a small minority saying this, but I'd at least like to see how the discussion goes on the trivia page before you obliterate my long, hard work from existence :) --[[User:Dreamer|Dreamer]] 00:30, 8 February 2006 (EST)
+== Sciffy Thread ==
+I reported your discovery [http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2275066 here]. I gave you credit for the find, of course, and hoped that the extra eyes on the subject might help shed some light on the "other" ship. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:16, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
+:Excellent. The more eyes on it, the better. Seven letters appear to be the key, so Olympus is possible. I haven't used my Sciffy account in months.... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:02, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
-:Sure, Dreamer. It does look like we need to send this article away; but (as you noted elsewhere) as an online encyclopedia, the ease of finding information is as important as recording it. Take a look at the actor bios and see if there is a format or convention that would give consistancy to ensure that others who look for trivia can find it. But do note that "trivia" is just that; information that is least relevant, and so is less important in our pecking order here than the content of episodic or character articles. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:54, 8 February 2006 (EST)
+==Units of Measure (TOS)==
+Argh, I hate edit conflicts! Was working on that one at the same time you were. :)   [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 12:23, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
+:Sorry about that! You have the same thoughts as I do; merging like content that otherwise make articles that are too general and not wiki-specific. I'm working on [[Squadrons of Galactica]] right now. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:44, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
-*I am confused: it wasn't really "hard work"; only 5 times appeared on your Trivia page.  Further, the two notes that Grace Park and Tricia Helfer are models-turned-actresses were already in their biographies, and the notation the Glen Larson was working on Knight Rider was also in his article.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 00:53, 8 February 2006 (EST)
+== Guyle Fraizer as Colonial One co-pilot ==
-:I was joking on the hard work part, hence the smiley. I consider it only a personal stub, as to continue upon it and add further data in the near future.  --[[User:Dreamer|dreamer]] 00:58, 8 February 2006 (EST)
+Hi there, my source for that is actually that I know Guyle personally (and yes, the one you found on the IMDB is the right one, I'm apparently just an idiot and spelled his name wrong), and he and I talked about it a few times.  :) {{unsigned|Zeppo}}
-::Gotcha. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 01:20, 8 February 2006 (EST)
+== A Comment From Mrs. Ron ==
-==The CNP==
+[[Terry Dresbach]], a.k.a, "Mrs. Ron" on the Skiffy boards, appreciated [http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2276767&st=120 my comments] on ''Battlestar's'' wrap-up season. Given the many messages in this fast-growing thread, I'm humbled that she noticed it. Her response sums up everything that I loved about the new series. It has given us a great ride, and so long as Ron has a stogie and scotch handy, we'll see more good things from him. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:33, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:I agree. It would be nice to go on, but in the long run it's better to end it on a high point. The main thing I'm disappointed about is that the rest of the show will probably revolve around the search for Earth and the Final Five. Which are far from my favorite themes in the show. I initially liked that it placed character over story and that seems to have changed. But I digress.
+:Anyways, I'm indifferent to the usual fan outrage as well these days, and even distanced myself a bit from message boards where constant whining seems to be the norm. When an outstanding show really hasn't been give a chance, I can get behind campaigns and be sad, but a three-hour miniseries, 4 seasons and a TV movie are really more than fair these days. If people want to think that the show was directly canceled by the network that is, as usual, to be expected; I'm willing to give the producers the benefit of the doubt. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:18, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Whining is the norm everywhere (except here) at this point, dude --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:38, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::I don't provide any cheese for all that whine, myself. I'm glad that we're not (yet) seeing a spike because of the news, but that may change. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:28, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::Your comments were great, Spencerian. It basically sums up how I feel. Personally, any time I see a worthwhile TV show survive the dreaded "Firefly" 1 season curse, I smile. Haters will complain about whatever is available; if a show ends, they'll cry about that - if it continues and "doesn't live up", they'll cry about that. Misery loves company. Just another reason to avoid forums. I'd rather be here doing something constructive. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 14:45, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::Agreed. This place is much more fun. And there is so many roads to go in finding Earth. There is going to be a meeting of minds (and maybe more) in what the Cylons and Colonials truly mean to each other. And it may even leave the story just a little open for a backstory. Just my opinion, but You Heard It Here First. :) Terry notes that, in her opinion, ''Caprica'' will not make it. But there are so many shows that could use a "re-imagining". As one Slashdot writer said about Ron's abilities: "If I heard he was going to re-imagine ''The Phone Book'', I'd watch it." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:52, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::::That's what I was thinking too: Ron and his people have made one hell of a name for themselves, if they decide to start another project, Sci Fi will happily accept it. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 05:58, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::::[[Galactica 1980 (RDM)|How about this?]] --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::::::I guess that depends on how S4 is gonna end. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+: I am honestly happy to say that I'm pleased with this announcement, and I'm glad that your comments were appreciated by the right people. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 14:56, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
-In the mini-series, Doral comes to Baltar on Ragnar with a list of civilian ships that have the CNP, which indicates that there are non-military ships with the program.
+== Thanks for the welcome :) ==
-Furthermore, there are a '''lot''' of Vipers leaving the Galactica at Ragnar to engage the Cylons.  I was under the impression there were only twenty Mark II Vipers aboard the Galactica, and that its original Mark VII squadron was destroyed on the way back to Caprica.  Therefore, at least some of those Vipers might have been the survivors of other ships that made their way to Ragnar after Adama gave the order to rendezvous there for a counterattack.
+Hey, thanks for the welcome, glad you liked my site :) (even if it badly needs rewriting from scratch...) and yep, my aspergersish pedantism about detail would just not let me leave the page on accents saying Aerilon accent was "diluted northern english" when it was a Yorkshire accent (got one or two friends living there), so that's why I created an account! Oh, and happy birthday!!! :) take care, [[User:Marianne|Marianne]] 10:18, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
-Furthermore, later in the series, the Galactica seems to have an awful lot of Raptors, and Crashdown is described as being a refugee from the Triton, which IIRC was one of the battlestars destroyed around the time of the Atlantia.  Therefore, it seems that some Raptors might have made their way there was well.  The Raptors also have FTL (unlike, apparently, the Vipers) and judging by how the Raiders never tried to virus Boomer and Helo, Raptors might be less suspectible to Cylon interference, so any Raptors that escaped the destruction of their battlestars would have an easier time getting away from the Cylons then Vipers would.
+== INTJ ==
+First, happy birthday! Second, my wife just took the myers-briggs yesterday (during her residency orientation), and came out INTJ. I took it in college for a software engineering class (and maybe again in ROTC) and came out INTP. The J, though, will come into play at a later date. (This won't make sense until later, but being a wiki... this is not that unusual.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+:Happy birthday! I am seriously considering adding a <code>jungtype=</code> field to [[Template:User Data]], seriously. Doing the test myself as well, 102 questions take some time though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:51, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+:Happy birthday! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 16:48, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Thanks, everyone! I tried to do something other than the wiki to celebrate... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Y'all have got me curious now about this test. Is there a place I can take it online? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:29, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::Sure. The Myers-Briggs-based test is [http://similarminds.com/embj.html here]. The morality test is [http://www.outofservice.com/morality/ here] (both links are from Marianne's [http://xmoogle.org/me.html home page]). On a side note, my test was given professionally many years ago, so I'm more apt to continue noting my INTJ class than any that are generated here. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:43, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::Happy late B-Day! I was away for a while. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:08, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::: For the record, I'm an ISTP. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 16:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::ENTJ here. That's it, I'm definitely gonna do the jungtype field tomorrow. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::ESTP. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 17:32, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::WTLFM (Way to long for me). :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 19:48, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::Interesting one. In other words, you scored RGDL? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 20:04, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+The INTJs can take solace in that, if he were real, [[w:Gandalf|Gandalf]] would be an INTJ, and that worked out pretty well for him. :) My scores keep oscillating between INTP, ISTP and INTJ. I ''like'' being weird as an INTJ, frankly. I just don't want everyone else to know about it. :/ --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:47, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
-Also, Dualla describes reports of system failures throughout the Fleet, and then describes how a battlestar lost power.  How effective was the CNP with the capital ships?  We've seen it used quite effectively on Vipers, but Dualla's description of its effects on battlestars is vague (power loss in at least one case and undescribed "system failures").
+== Question about commas ==
-Congrats on being made Admin.
+I noticed some weird comma placement in your edits. You always write things "In the episode, "[[Downloaded]]",..."
---[[User:mq59|mq59]] 12:16, 3 January 2006 (EST)
+Why is there a comma ''in front'' of the episode title? Is this some specific grammar rule I don't know about? Because to me it doesn't make any sense to put a comma there. It isn't a separate sentence part and there shouldn't be a pause there. Neither is the episode title a parenthesis, since the sentence doesn't make sense without it :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:28, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-:Hi, Mq59. I remember the scene with Doral (in CIC, Baltar was being "serviced" by virtual Six when he was interrupted) and will review it on my copy of the miniseries; you may be right on the CNP's use on civilian ships. As far as Crashdown's origination, it's not clear if he flew in on a Raptor (the largest of any refugee ship; no other indications show any other Colonial Fleet craft escaped to Ragnar) or even flew in at all; Valerii may have been kidding about a transfer he made from the ''Triton'' before the attack. We don't have enough information to pull a good speculation here, although I would defer it to escaped since we know Raptors have FTL ability and are small enough not to be noticed as well by Cylon forces. We just don't have any information from the Miniseries that additional ships made it. Raptors had CNP as well, but yes, since they are designed for electronic countermeasures, they may be less subceptible to infiltration, CNP or not. If you can find Doral's exact line to Baltar, that will be enough as a source. However, we shouldn't globally say that all civilian ships used the CNP; it's practical that commercial commerce ships, such as modern freighters, may use similar hardware from the same ship contractor that builds military ships and so have a similar specification for CNP. Most civilian ships, such as passenger liners, were just defenseless and easy to destroy, CNP or not.
+:You're right...it's likely a mental thing. I should write it "In the episode "Downloaded", there was this thing." I suspect I write it that way because episode titles "throw off" the grammar of the sentence when I read them, although they are names and are just objects of the sentence. As a result, I put in a pause to mentally set off the title to prevent confusing it as a element that forms the message of the sentence. It's like this example.
-:The CNP was very effective, obviously: all but two battlestars were destroyed. We saw in "Valley of Darkness" what happens when a battlestar is infected. We know that, while the battlestar may not have been fully shutdown like a fighter would, the number of systemic failures would be enough to leave a battlestar effectively defenseless and fodder for a basestar and her fighters. If a second Cylon fight occurred during "Valley", ''Galactica'' would have been screwed. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:49, 3 January 2006 (EST)
+<blockquote>In the episode "You Should Have Watched Yesterday", Tom dies."</blockquote>
-Peter Farago found the "civilians with the CNP" quote and put it in the "Talk: CNP article."
+:The quotations are supposed to set the episode apart, but it never works for me. Not that I should go and reinvent English grammar, however. I'll work my way out of the two-comma habit. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:20, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-I know no capital ships made it to Ragnar.  However, it seemed they had too many Vipers and Raptors (the Vipers in the mini and the Raptors during the actual series) for an about-to-be-decommissioned ship.
+::Ah ok. That makes some sense. It wasn't meant as huge criticism and you don't have to go around changing everything. Just something I noticed and wondered about. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:25, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-The CNP worked--it seems like virtually all the Colonial Fleet was destroyed in a single day (not sure what length of time the miniseries actually covers, but it's not that long).  I was curious about how effective it was and how many casualties the Cylons could have theoretically suffered.
+:::By the way, I think commas go inside quotes --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:54, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
+:::For episodes, I think any punctuation goes outside the quotes/parenthesis unless separating more than one episode. --[[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 22:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
+::::Yeah, generally we use American punctuation, though personally I hate it, since it doesn't make sense either. But we decided to make an exception for episode titles, since they aren't really quotes. It just looks bad to put the punctuation inside in that case. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:17, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
+:::::I'm having a strange [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions/Archive4#American_style_punctuation_with_episode_titles sense of de'ja vu.] I just got used to putting punctuation OUTSIDE of quotes after the change. If this is a serious point, let's move it back to [[BW:SAC]]. I think we're nitpicking...we just need to be consistent, at least in any one article. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:34, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
-I may write a fanfic called "The Death of the Poseidon" describing the destruction of a battlestar during the opening attack--the Raiders shut down virtually all of the Vipers and destroy the defenseless Raptors, but lose many Raiders trying to close with the "Poseidon" to trigger the CNP (a Raider "eye-dance" in the mini and "Flight of the Phoenix" seems to be the preferred way of jacking with the Colonials).  The Poseidon's fire controls go haywire and main power shuts down, enabling the Cylons to launch a bunch of nukes.  By the time they get the backups running, the nukes are too close to shoot down and BANG!
+== User Image ==
-Hmm...if I make the battlestar the "Triton" instead of the "Poseidon," perhaps I can involve Crashdown.
+Best one so far! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:02, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+:And not one bit of Photoshop! Note the squeegee! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:52, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
+::yay! ya.. i noticed that the first time around. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:04, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
---[[User:mq59|mq59]] 1:24, 3 January 2006 (EST)
+== So sorry... ==
-:Nice catch, MQ. I've readded your contribution with the source that Peter provided. Enlightening. For the Viper count, there is an article that tracks the number of Vipers, but it escapes me. [[Flight of the Phoenix]] has a notation on this. There are enough Vipers but fewer pilots nowandays. ''Galactica'' had two Mk.II squadrons at the start of the war.
+It was a good game. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:19, 13 January 2008 (CST)
+:Well, can't have everything. I'm rooting for the Packers. They always have heart and deserve it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:54, 13 January 2008 (CST)
+::The NFC game will be interesting. Friends here @ work are putting NYG over GB 3 to 1, however, both teams are evenly match. One is good at passing, the other running. Both play in snow, cold weather. The SD v. Pats game is a joke. SD should forfeit now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:03, 13 January 2008 (CST)
+:::Proud Cheesehead, here! It'll be interesting to see the looks I get from my fellow New Yorkers while I wear my Packers paraphernalia. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:08, 14 January 2008 (CST)
-:We don't host fan fiction here, of course, but I'm sure you'd have an audience for your story somewhere! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:41, 3 January 2006 (EST)
+== Matrix etc. :) ==
-Does the Viper count include the mini-series?  Four Vipers (I believe) were destroyed on-screen at the Battle of Ragnar Anchorage.  However, when the Vipers are launched, it looks like there are a lot more than the 30-odd Vipers they've got by "Flight of the Phoenix."
+http://battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=4381&postcount=7 ... Look @ 217kb image. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 02:31, 25 January 2008 (CST)
-I saw the mini last night and Adama referred to "twenty Vipers" being in their museum section (the Mark IIs).  Assuming Apollo left his Mark VII there when he took out his father's Mark II for a spin during the decommissioning, the other seven or so Mark VIIs they've got by "Flight" had to come from somewhere.  This doesn't take casualties at Ragnar into account.
+== Thriller? ==
-I have to actually start writing the story first.  I've got one Internet project to finish within the next week or so, and classes for me (I am in college) resume Monday.--[[User:mq59|mq59]] 14:21, 3 January 2006 (EST)
+My sources [http://www.colonialfleet.org/quorum/index.php?showtopic=13&view=findpost&p=77652 tell me] that you perform a mean "Thriller" dance... Have an interesting story behind that? :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
-:It's complicated. I'm currently keeping track of everything in the notes section of [[Galactica (RDM)]], but the matter may deserve its own article in the near future. My own impression, anyway, was that Galactica had two squadrons of Mk. VIIs (in active service out of the port flight pod) and one squadron ofn Mk. IIs (in the museum on the starboard pod). After the twenty Mk. VIIs in Ripper's squadron were destroyed, the Mk. IIs were reactivated, bringing the total to the (roughly) 40 fighters seen at the Ragnar battle. I'm not 100% sure of this, however, as there are still other sources to consult. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 14:33, 3 January 2006 (EST)
+:Oh, no. It almost makes me happy that I can't go to DragonCon this year. Mind you, dancing in a deckhand jumpsuit is intimidating enough, not to mention hot. But wait a minute...did I dance to that song? All that alcohol make things so blurry... :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
+::hahah! [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
-==Rank= Administrator==
+== Recent problems ==
-OK. Now I'm jealous. --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 14:51, 4 January 2006 (EST)
+Hey again, Spencerian--I hope you are well.  About a month ago, you said that the wiki would be going to a standby mode or something (I don't remember the details and I can't check them because every attempt to access my talk page results in an error message).   Do you know if the recent problems (main page and inability to edit a few other pages plus the aforementioned talk page, in addition to ongoing French and German site issues) are related to this "standby mode"?  Are they continuations of older problems?  Anything you can do to shed light on this would help.  Thanks, and happy holidays! -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 19:27, 13 December 2014 (EST)
-:''(yodaspeak)'' Be careful you should be, or [[Battlestar Wiki:Requests for adminship|suffer my fate, you will!]] ''(/yodaspeak)'' --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:02, 4 January 2006 (EST)
+::Hello Spencerian! Sorry I didn't see your message on my talk page literally years ago, but thanks for the message. I do check in here every so often. That the wiki is still online makes me happy and almost unbearable nostalgic for times past. I suppose I should ask Joe what might be needed to help keep this online as I'm Facebook friends with him. I hope all is well with you and yours! [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 21:55, 14 February 2016 (EST)
-:: '''''LOL!''''' --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 19:52, 4 January 2006 (EST)
-==Welcome==
-Thanks for the welcome - I probably won't be contributing all that much (admin duties on Wikipedia keep me busy, as well as the ''Doctor Who'' Wikiproject). Just had to correct some really nagging spelling mistakes. :) --[[User:Khaosworks|Khaosworks]] 17:31, 8 January 2006 (EST)
-:I know the feeling. Joe (our admin) just empowered me and two others as sysops here, so I'm learning to budget my time--I used to be all over Wikipedia and their Matrix series pages until I found this place. :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:27, 8 January 2006 (EST)
-==Editing User Pages==
-From what I've learned of [[Wikipedia:Wikiquette|Wikiquette]] it is considered bad form to edit a user's page. However, I've been working the [[Special:Disambiguations|Disambiguations Page]] to try to get links pointed where they are intended to go, and one of the results on that page is a user page. I guess the first step would be to ask them to change it on their talk page, but considering their last contribution was a few months ago there's a good chance that they might never respond. I guess I should just let it go, but the OCD side of me wants the Disambuations Page to someday read like the Double Redirects page (0 results returned). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:58, 17 January 2006 (EST)
-:Sounds fine. Was this in reference to Day's adjustment on a link on my user page? It was understandable, so I ignored it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:32, 17 January 2006 (EST)
-::Oh, no. If I were to call out Day, I'd call him out. This was about my Viper disambig crusade today. [[User:Neochiiz3000]] has a link to Viper that I was thinking about switching to Viper (RDM). I've restrained myself, and the issue may resolve itself if we end up doing a redirect to Viper (RDM) off of Viper. If not, I'll ask first... and edit if there isn't a response for a while. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:39, 17 January 2006 (EST)
-:::Yeah, that sounds like the proper thing to do. As an admin, it should not be inappropriate for you to edit a user page after you ask for permission first and time elapses, or if the content of the page violates our policy. Yeah, I hope you had a script for that--how many pages did you DO!? You're going to wake up in a nightmare at 4 in the morning and scream "Viper!" --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:47, 17 January 2006 (EST)
-:::: Two things. One: Yeah, Steelviper. I broke my The <s>FLeet</s> Fleet purge into several phases (still not done as of this writing), so I would remain sane. Two: I felt that a) Spence would see the reasonability of my editing his user page that particular time and that b) he'd see my name by the edit and maybe be forgiving. However, this may be similar to the way that, after I know you a while, I get the idea that your personal space and my personal space can be the same space and that puts some people off, so lemme know if I got a bit close to you, there, Spence. And I mean that in general, not just in this one case. I don't plan on making a habit of editing others' user pages, but this ''is'' my first Wiki and I'm still learning the finer points of Wikiquette and which rules are hard a fast for all and which might be bent for "friends" etc. --[[User:Day|Day]] 23:21, 17 January 2006 (EST)
-::::Script? Man... that's a really good idea. I've not played with that yet, though, so all those edits you saw were manual. For some of the other big offenders (Battlestar, The Twelve Colonies) I was thinking of going more with the redirect + disambig on the top, since 95%+ of the new content is going to be about RDM... and I'm not sure if I could survive all 600+ of the disambig fixes. I didn't keep an exact count, but I cranked out around 100 viper edits. (I'd do blocks of about 10 to try to stay sharp). As for editing user pages, I'm with you Day (in that I wouldn't mind somebody who knew me to fix something that's broken, or maybe even somebody that didn't know me if it were particarly bad). However, I get the impression that some people are pretty sensitive about the issue, so I wanted to get a second opinion. I still need to drop a note to that user though... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:38, 18 January 2006 (EST)
-==D'oh!==
-Sorry about the goof up on the Crashdown page. I guess my enthusiasm got the better of me. Thanks for pointing me right. [[User:Joemc72|Joemc72]] 13:44, 19 January 2006 (EST)
-:Not a problem. Sometimes I'm wrong (and do feel free to correct me if you see a goof), but what you noted was a common interpretation for others here, so you're not alone. It ''may'' be probable that a place known as Triton exists, but using Occam's Razor (simpliest answer is likely the correct one) is best here. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:02, 19 January 2006 (EST)
-== I feel like you don't ''talk'' to me any more... ==
-That's a bit of a joke. However, I'm speaking of [[Talk:Saul Tigh#Picture?|this discussion]] that I tried to start after you changed Tigh's picture the first time. There was some discussion about it on the Island of Misfit Images and the, I think, two other people who chimed in agreed that the old one was much more nice looking. Anyway, I thought I'd prod you here for a response on Saul's talk page. --[[User:Day|Day]] 20:57, 23 January 2006 (EST)
-== Clear=both; ==
-Ahha! [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=CIC&curid=797&diff=26666&oldid=26629 This page] looks much better now. Great use of the Empty-and-CLeared-Div trick. There are probably a few other articles that could use this. Anyway, wanted to give props. --[[User:Day|Day]] 01:25, 25 January 2006 (EST)
-:It's YOU I need to give props to. It's a simple bit of code that works well. Thanks for the help. I've been reluctant to update some pages in need of images because of formatting, so you've given me a good tool. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:14, 25 January 2006 (EST)
-== Character Template Clarification ==
-You didn't want it to get conversational over at the template talk, so I thought I'd ask here. What do you mean by "unneccessarily fill the template and it is growing ridiculously large"? Are you talking about the number of articles that link to the template ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Character_Data]])? Does the number of articles that utilize a template have a negative impact on that template somehow? I guess I don't understand the technical maintenance implications of it. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:18, 3 February 2006 (EST)
-: I meant the ''sheer dimensions of it'' (just [[Template:Characters]], not the character data template)...it's growing THICKER and THICKER and looks awful, worthless data notwithstanding. I can start to appreciate Peter's distaste for it now. I suggested the standard to aid in slowing down the amount of characters added to it, but nothing will stop the growth except to remove it altogether. A much smaller redesign could also help. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:27, 3 February 2006 (EST)
-::Ah! Much clearer now! (I had just made a change inside Phelan's Character Data template, which had me in the wrong frame of mind.) I had (vaguely) noticed that the "Character" template was growing, but honestly I had come to ignore it. If it becomes a duplication of Category: Characters it ceases to be a navigational aid. I'd still like to come up with an elegant solution using Categories, but I don't think categories will be able to provide the immediate visual appeal that a (properly sized) character template is going to have.
-::Do character templates always span the entire series? There might be a character that satisfies your criteria, but is not terribly relevant in a season or two. Is that just a function of character template maintenance (keep it up to date and trim), or a situation where you have character templates for different time periods/seasons? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:35, 3 February 2006 (EST)
-:::As Peter might attest, maintaining these things can be a bitch and be visually unappealing. I find that a similar template for the Matrix movies on Wikipedia works, but now I understand why Peter thinks it sucks here--it will grow like a cancer and pull much needed "white space" off the article, making things that much more cluttered. The Matrix stuff is generally over. But BG has to grow, and we have 50000 characters plus 12 Cylons to account for. I think we have enough links in articles to not deal with the character template, more I think of it. That thing is for browsing, nothing more. Or, we add in the central characters and regular guest stars and leave it at that. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:44, 3 February 2006 (EST)
-:::: I think we should kill it. Inject some Cylon baby blood and let our character pages walk tall and healthy again. If we want to aid browsing of characters by type or something, we could do some categorization that would work wonderfully, I think. We've talked about a lot, but, say, Main/Supporting (needs a new name, but both Bill and Saul would go here), Recurring (Zarek and that level of folk), Pilots/ECOs (also needs a new name), Command Staff, Civilians, Deck Crew, Marines... That way, someone could scroll down to the end and see a list of categories this character is in and choose what similarity they want to browse by. The current system assumes the user wants to browse by the criteria of Main/Supporting, whereas multiple categories let the ''user'' choose. This is maybe not the best place to voice this, huh? --[[User:Day|Day]] 02:35, 4 February 2006 (EST)
-== TOS Character Improvements ==
-Are there any other characters that you would like to see spruced up (other than Tigh, who is still a Todo)? If so, please add them to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Original Series Article Development Project|OSAD]] page. I think we're getting closer to where we need to be on the characters. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:24, 21 February 2006 (EST)