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== Regarding your RfA ==
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'''[http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Permanent_documentation_file Permanent documentation file] — The Merovingian, BattlestarWiki.org:'''


Hi Ricimer, while your RfA did not pass, I firmly and wholeheartedly believe that you are fully capable of passing the RfA, should it come up again within, say, six months.  If you have any concerns, feel free to address them with Peter, myself, or any of the other major contributors. Have a happy New Year! -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 12:31, 30 December 2005 (EST)
== The Bot ==


:I have yet to play my trump card. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 12:32, 30 December 2005 (EST)
You said you wanted to take a look at what the bot does when it was working... [[Template:Allopentasks]]. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:40, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
:Thanks. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 13:15, 5 August 2006 (CDT)


:: Should I be afraid? *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] 20:21, 31 December 2005 (EST)
== Template Help ==


== Battle Template ==
I created this [[Battlestar Wiki:Template List Guidelines|page]] (for you and others) for help using the new cite templates so you understand how it works. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:57, 6 August 2006 (CDT)
:I do not understand. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 01:22, 6 August 2006 (CDT)


You're the guy who came up with this, right? Do you think that a) the thing could be made into an actual template (like the Character Data one with dissappearing/reappearing fields, etc) and b) it could be re-designed to look like the Character Data one (in terms of looking like the rest of the theme (the red/black is the default theme, isn't it?)? I don't know how these two things would be accomplished, but I thought I'd put this out there and see what you thought as far as feasability and also as far as ''should'' we do it. --[[User:Day|Day]] 17:00, 18 January 2006 (EST)
== If your going to be around... ==


== User name change ==
I will update the {{tl|Episode Data}} and we three can work on the episode pages. Just let me know. /me goes back try and getting this bot back to work.. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:52, 8 August 2006 (CDT)
:Actually could you do that in circa 6 hours?  THe old ball and chain has me doin' stuff.  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 11:52, 8 August 2006 (CDT)
::Steel's not around in 6. :-| Shouldn't really take that long. Episode Pages # < Character Pages, but there are more changes... --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:55, 8 August 2006 (CDT)


Just letting you know that I changed your name from Ricimer to The Merovingian.  Let me know if you encounter any issues, not that I'm expecting any but just in case Murphy's Law decides to come and play. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 23:19, 7 February 2006 (EST)
== Battlestar List ==


: Also on this topic: You should probably update the first sentence of your User page to reflect the name change. If you want, I could probably get a decent screen-grab of the identically named character from the Matrix. Unfortunately, I don't have a DVD from which to grab pictures that stars any of the folks who founded Paris. --[[User:Day|Day]] 01:24, 8 February 2006 (EST)
I understand the list's canon-bility, but I'd like to know the list, and a reference where I can look at it myself. --[[User:Volostheguardian|Volostheguardian]] 03:52, 9 August 2006 (CDT)
::Yes, actually, that would help immensly. I need one of The Merovingian when he's in Club Hel, standing at the balcony looking imperiously down at Neo. A shot that shows his whole body instead of a closeup would be preferred. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 02:13, 8 February 2006 (EST)
:Oh yeah, sure I'll help you out with that; hmmm...I"m going to need to do some digging, I'll get back to you on that...--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 06:10, 9 August 2006 (CDT)
:::You should watch "Revolutions" again. Merv isn't peering down at Neo but at Morpheus, Trinity, and Seraph (Neo never visits Club Hel in the movie series, although the Path of Neo video game takes him there while the Club is closed). I'll also try to get a screencap for you if time allows. My Matrix knowledge may be better than my BSG knowledge (note witty, illustrated user page; I've been almost tempted to change my user name to something more appropriate... ;) By the way, I like your revised user page. Merv is one of those characters whose deserved more exploration on the same level as the Oracle and the Architect. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:45, 8 February 2006 (EST)
::Where the frak is that list? I'm cutting through alot of felgercarb and I still haven't havent' had a reading on that muthafrakking list. --[[User:Volostheguardian|Volostheguardian]] 03:32, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


:"Neo" just came out; I was thinking Seraph & Co., just typed the wrong thing.  (''That little Judas!  I'm going to have him killed and buried in a shallow grave, then dig him up and kill him again...'''That's the beauty of a shallow grave!''') ''--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 16:52, 8 February 2006 (EST)
:::I think some were deleted, and I don't have time to dig; check some of the TOS battlestar entries' History pages, as they may have contained "Zoic-only RDM Battlestar info" from a while ago.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 11:16, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
::::"According to information releaed by [[Zoic|Zoic Studios]], the '''''Rycon''''' is one of the five [[battlestar]]s built by the [[Colonial]]s during the [[Cylon War]], the others being ''[[Galactica]]'', ''[[Columbia]]'', ''[[Pegasus]]'' and ''[[Atlantia]]''. There is currently no [[Canon|canonical]] data to support this, but as the ''Rycon'' was a name used in the [[Battlestar Galactica (TOS)|the original series]], it is probable the name would be carried forward to the [[Battlestar Galactica (RDM)|new series]]."
::::I dug that out of the Rycon entry. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:25, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


::I actually took a philosphy class and my choice for a paper was on ''The Matrix''. Basically, I've made several of the more...insightful speculations about The Merovingian on his Wikipdia article.  You see, Morpheus and Neo represent Socrates:  wanting to get out of "The Cave" to the real world beyond, etc.  However, I believe (and I'm the only person I know of who's thought of this; I didn't read it anywhere, but thought it up after reading ''Leviathan'') that The Merovingian is the embodiment of Thomas Hobbes in The Matrix.  He spouts off Hobbesian thought all of the time.  Hobbes said that "choice is an illusion" that the only constant is "cause and effect", and that the best thing we can do with our lives is kind of movie along with the flow of causality in such a way that we enjoy all of the *physical, transient* pleasures that we can, while we can.  Live a life of comfornt and luxury, etc.  The Merovingian *lives out* this ideal: He's living in complete luxury, like at Le Vrai, the Chateau, Club Hel (and he has affairds with women all the time, etc), he wields a great deal of physical power...yet recognizes that it's all just "a game" devoid of purpose; it's transient, etc.  He's stopped seeing any higher meaning in anything. --->Hobbes was a big critic of Socrates, and his philosophy was the polar opposte of Socrates' thought.  In the same way, The Merovingian opposes Neo and Morpheus' philoshpy of getting out of the Matrix. 
:::::How could it be Five? Doral stated in the Miniseries that there were originally Twelve. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 11:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
:I hold with the theory that he's a former One, that got his brain pattern scanned into a computer to outlive the death of his bodyBut he got so disillusioned with all of the lies and how the quest for freedom was just a reset button, that he turned against all of this and became the master of the Exiles, living the complete opposite of all of this (note; he ''really hates'' the Oracle, and views everything Neo says about her with extreme sarcasm)Plus, the initials "LV" on the walls of "Le Vrai" are Roman numerals for "LV" = 55.  Now, we've already seen 303= Trinity, 101= Neo.  So there's something about The Merovingian and the number "5".  On top of this, when we first meet him there are 5 glasses set out in front of him (and Persephone, his Trinity-analog, has 3 chocolates on her plate).  --->There have been 5 "Ones" before Neo.  I think the Merovingian is the ''first'' "One".  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 17:01, 8 February 2006 (EST)
::::::[[User:Ernestborg9|Ernestborg9]] appears to have created that entry (at least the Rycon). I've got no idea where that came from. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:49, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
:::::::If I ever meet that Ernestborg9 guy in person (an impossibility) I'm going to beat him to a pulpHe hasn't come here for over a year, but he wrote a LOT of junk we later had to fixMost obviously is the "Reviews" he did instead of "Analysis" for episodes, but on top of that; I mean just from technical articles, ship articles, character articles he just made a lot of bad stuff we later had to fix. :) --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 11:59, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


:::Yeah, that theory and his Hobbes relationship (I think--it may be in a book I read) is on the Wikipedia article. I edited the article in dispute of Merv being a past One. It all comes down to some logic points. ''Why'' does he hate the Oracle so much? Because she succeeded where he failed. She stabilized the Matrix by adding true choice, where Merv was likely tapped by the Architect earlier to program basic cause-effect subroutines in the Matrix code as well as manage the root-programs in Matrix-beta-2 that could be used to help with these changes (these programs he now holds for his own purposes). The Architect realized the utopian flaw in beta-1 and thought that simple cause-effect (combined with the root-programs--the monsters of myth) would be sufficient to convince the human minds. He was wrong, of course. Remember that the Merovingian is big on cause-effect, and the Oracle states that he is one the oldest of them all, which makes his human origin very unlikely as the machines by then were fully distrustful of humanity and saw itself as a steward, not bothering to hear out humanity anymore than we would listen to the needs of an ant. The One is purely human; if the Merovingian were a "One", he would have been generated within beta-2, and, as a result, would not be like the Ones that base their power from true choice (particularly the power to ''dis''believe what they see and act otherwise). To add to that: Merv could also be very mad at the Oracle because, in the Oracle's version of the Matrix, any powers he may have had in beta-2 are practically non-existent. (You gave me a new take the character now from that...hmm.) Oh, and "La Vrai" means, "The Truth", which is just Merv's way of protesting of what's around him..vulgarities of "choice". Only in his establishments, by the name implication, will the populace understand the "truth" about what is illusion to him (choice) and real (cause and effect).
==IGN interview EJO's Bush Comments==
Just wondering if you caught EJO's commemts on Bush. Lucy tried to cover for him :).--[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:25, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
:What are you specifically referring to? I saw the interview but I thought it was the usual "he's a moron" stuff. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 20:26, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
::Let me see if I can get this right, EJO talking about Adama being so overwhelmed like George Bush and want to throw his hands up, But Bush comes out every morning talking about the happy day it is. Lucy goes not he (bush) doesn't say that. I'll listem again if you want me, but I think that is close. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:35, 19 August 2006 (CDT)


:::I wrote a paper about the origin of the One (with a bit on Merv) for a SF convention that will BLOW. YOUR. MIND. If you like, I'd be happy to send you a PDF of it. I've not published this as yet, so it's a unique read that incorporates the above. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:29, 8 February 2006 (EST)
== CNP ==
 
Oh no, this CNP we're uploading has tons of backdoors! Sure it looks like a good idea, updating the styling and such, but pretty soon we're going to be stuck about 300 gigabytes from our homepage with our pants down and only McAfee to protect us. --[[User:Volostheguardian|Volostheguardian]] 00:29, 23 August 2006 (CDT)
:I don't make these updates; Shane and Joe are doing that, I'm not involved at all.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 09:30, 23 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Wormholes ==
 
*I'm not arguing with you. But out of curiosity could you provide the source where RDM specifically said FTL tech is wormhole based? -- [[User:Troyian|Troyian]] 16:21, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
:I'd have to check the blog; I actually don't really care about tech stuff, I was just pointing out that BSG doesn't call it a "Jump Point".  --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] <sup>([[Special:Contributions/The Merovingian|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/The Merovingian|E]])</sup> 16:54, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Message posted at Scifi.com Messageboards ==
 
I can't respond on the wiki, so a brief though polite response [http://mboard.scifi.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=2107532&page=0&vc=1 here]. -- The_Merovingian 09/01/06 12:25 PM
 
: For your consideration, here's the thread from where this comment originates: http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=BattlestarGalactica&Number=2107532&page=0&fpart=2. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:31, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
 
== Name Change ==
 
I'm changing my user name from "The_Merovingian" to "V"
 
The Matrix reference is getting dated, and V for Vendetta is cool. Needed a fresh start.
 
<nowiki>**</nowiki>Everyone is supposed to know that "The Merovingian" and "V" are the same person; it will even be in my sig for a time. I asked the Admins to change my name and they said okay. Just to let you guys know. --  The_Merovingian 09/06/06 02:38 PM
 
(the above message was received as a PM by Steelviper on the Scifi.com Bulletin board system --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT))
:I get confused with people changing names. Ive used the same one for like a bazillion years. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 15:21, 6 September 2006 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 20:47, 1 November 2007

Permanent documentation file — The Merovingian, BattlestarWiki.org:

The Bot[edit]

You said you wanted to take a look at what the bot does when it was working... Template:Allopentasks. --Shane (T - C - E) 11:40, 5 August 2006 (CDT)

Thanks. --The Merovingian (C - E) 13:15, 5 August 2006 (CDT)

Template Help[edit]

I created this page (for you and others) for help using the new cite templates so you understand how it works. --Shane (T - C - E) 00:57, 6 August 2006 (CDT)

I do not understand. --The Merovingian (C - E) 01:22, 6 August 2006 (CDT)

If your going to be around...[edit]

I will update the {{Episode Data}} and we three can work on the episode pages. Just let me know. /me goes back try and getting this bot back to work.. --Shane (T - C - E) 11:52, 8 August 2006 (CDT)

Actually could you do that in circa 6 hours? THe old ball and chain has me doin' stuff. --The Merovingian (C - E) 11:52, 8 August 2006 (CDT)
Steel's not around in 6. :-| Shouldn't really take that long. Episode Pages # < Character Pages, but there are more changes... --Shane (T - C - E) 11:55, 8 August 2006 (CDT)

Battlestar List[edit]

I understand the list's canon-bility, but I'd like to know the list, and a reference where I can look at it myself. --Volostheguardian 03:52, 9 August 2006 (CDT)

Oh yeah, sure I'll help you out with that; hmmm...I"m going to need to do some digging, I'll get back to you on that...--The Merovingian (C - E) 06:10, 9 August 2006 (CDT)
Where the frak is that list? I'm cutting through alot of felgercarb and I still haven't havent' had a reading on that muthafrakking list. --Volostheguardian 03:32, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
I think some were deleted, and I don't have time to dig; check some of the TOS battlestar entries' History pages, as they may have contained "Zoic-only RDM Battlestar info" from a while ago.--The Merovingian (C - E) 11:16, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
"According to information releaed by Zoic Studios, the Rycon is one of the five battlestars built by the Colonials during the Cylon War, the others being Galactica, Columbia, Pegasus and Atlantia. There is currently no canonical data to support this, but as the Rycon was a name used in the the original series, it is probable the name would be carried forward to the new series."
I dug that out of the Rycon entry. --Steelviper 11:25, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
How could it be Five? Doral stated in the Miniseries that there were originally Twelve. --The Merovingian (C - E) 11:43, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
Ernestborg9 appears to have created that entry (at least the Rycon). I've got no idea where that came from. --Steelviper 11:49, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
If I ever meet that Ernestborg9 guy in person (an impossibility) I'm going to beat him to a pulp. He hasn't come here for over a year, but he wrote a LOT of junk we later had to fix. Most obviously is the "Reviews" he did instead of "Analysis" for episodes, but on top of that; I mean just from technical articles, ship articles, character articles he just made a lot of bad stuff we later had to fix. :) --The Merovingian (C - E) 11:59, 18 August 2006 (CDT)

IGN interview EJO's Bush Comments[edit]

Just wondering if you caught EJO's commemts on Bush. Lucy tried to cover for him :).--FrankieG 20:25, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

What are you specifically referring to? I saw the interview but I thought it was the usual "he's a moron" stuff. --The Merovingian (C - E) 20:26, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
Let me see if I can get this right, EJO talking about Adama being so overwhelmed like George Bush and want to throw his hands up, But Bush comes out every morning talking about the happy day it is. Lucy goes not he (bush) doesn't say that. I'll listem again if you want me, but I think that is close. --FrankieG 20:35, 19 August 2006 (CDT)

CNP[edit]

Oh no, this CNP we're uploading has tons of backdoors! Sure it looks like a good idea, updating the styling and such, but pretty soon we're going to be stuck about 300 gigabytes from our homepage with our pants down and only McAfee to protect us. --Volostheguardian 00:29, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

I don't make these updates; Shane and Joe are doing that, I'm not involved at all.--The Merovingian (C - E) 09:30, 23 August 2006 (CDT)

Wormholes[edit]

  • I'm not arguing with you. But out of curiosity could you provide the source where RDM specifically said FTL tech is wormhole based? -- Troyian 16:21, 27 August 2006 (CDT)
I'd have to check the blog; I actually don't really care about tech stuff, I was just pointing out that BSG doesn't call it a "Jump Point". --The Merovingian (C - E) 16:54, 27 August 2006 (CDT)

Message posted at Scifi.com Messageboards[edit]

I can't respond on the wiki, so a brief though polite response here. -- The_Merovingian 09/01/06 12:25 PM

For your consideration, here's the thread from where this comment originates: http://mboard.scifi.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=BattlestarGalactica&Number=2107532&page=0&fpart=2. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:31, 1 September 2006 (CDT)

Name Change[edit]

I'm changing my user name from "The_Merovingian" to "V"

The Matrix reference is getting dated, and V for Vendetta is cool. Needed a fresh start.

**Everyone is supposed to know that "The Merovingian" and "V" are the same person; it will even be in my sig for a time. I asked the Admins to change my name and they said okay. Just to let you guys know. -- The_Merovingian 09/06/06 02:38 PM

(the above message was received as a PM by Steelviper on the Scifi.com Bulletin board system --Steelviper 14:37, 6 September 2006 (CDT))

I get confused with people changing names. Ive used the same one for like a bazillion years. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 15:21, 6 September 2006 (CDT)