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Sciffy Thread

I reported your discovery here. I gave you credit for the find, of course, and hoped that the extra eyes on the subject might help shed some light on the "other" ship. --Steelviper 21:16, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Excellent. The more eyes on it, the better. Seven letters appear to be the key, so Olympus is possible. I haven't used my Sciffy account in months.... --Spencerian 08:02, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

Units of Measure (TOS)

Argh, I hate edit conflicts! Was working on that one at the same time you were. :) JubalHarshaw 12:23, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Sorry about that! You have the same thoughts as I do; merging like content that otherwise make articles that are too general and not wiki-specific. I'm working on Squadrons of Galactica right now. --Spencerian 12:44, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Guyle Fraizer as Colonial One co-pilot

Hi there, my source for that is actually that I know Guyle personally (and yes, the one you found on the IMDB is the right one, I'm apparently just an idiot and spelled his name wrong), and he and I talked about it a few times. :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zeppo (talk • contribs).

A Comment From Mrs. Ron

Terry Dresbach, a.k.a, "Mrs. Ron" on the Skiffy boards, appreciated my comments on Battlestar's wrap-up season. Given the many messages in this fast-growing thread, I'm humbled that she noticed it. Her response sums up everything that I loved about the new series. It has given us a great ride, and so long as Ron has a stogie and scotch handy, we'll see more good things from him. --Spencerian 10:33, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I agree. It would be nice to go on, but in the long run it's better to end it on a high point. The main thing I'm disappointed about is that the rest of the show will probably revolve around the search for Earth and the Final Five. Which are far from my favorite themes in the show. I initially liked that it placed character over story and that seems to have changed. But I digress.

Anyways, I'm indifferent to the usual fan outrage as well these days, and even distanced myself a bit from message boards where constant whining seems to be the norm. When an outstanding show really hasn't been give a chance, I can get behind campaigns and be sad, but a three-hour miniseries, 4 seasons and a TV movie are really more than fair these days. If people want to think that the show was directly canceled by the network that is, as usual, to be expected; I'm willing to give the producers the benefit of the doubt. --Serenity 11:18, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Whining is the norm everywhere (except here) at this point, dude --BklynBruzer 12:38, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

I don't provide any cheese for all that whine, myself. I'm glad that we're not (yet) seeing a spike because of the news, but that may change. --Spencerian 14:28, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Your comments were great, Spencerian. It basically sums up how I feel. Personally, any time I see a worthwhile TV show survive the dreaded "Firefly" 1 season curse, I smile. Haters will complain about whatever is available; if a show ends, they'll cry about that - if it continues and "doesn't live up", they'll cry about that. Misery loves company. Just another reason to avoid forums. I'd rather be here doing something constructive. JubalHarshaw 14:45, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Agreed. This place is much more fun. And there is so many roads to go in finding Earth. There is going to be a meeting of minds (and maybe more) in what the Cylons and Colonials truly mean to each other. And it may even leave the story just a little open for a backstory. Just my opinion, but You Heard It Here First. :) Terry notes that, in her opinion, Caprica will not make it. But there are so many shows that could use a "re-imagining". As one Slashdot writer said about Ron's abilities: "If I heard he was going to re-imagine The Phone Book, I'd watch it." --Spencerian 14:52, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

That's what I was thinking too: Ron and his people have made one hell of a name for themselves, if they decide to start another project, Sci Fi will happily accept it. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 05:58, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

How about this? --BklynBruzer 08:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I guess that depends on how S4 is gonna end. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 09:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)

I am honestly happy to say that I'm pleased with this announcement, and I'm glad that your comments were appreciated by the right people. ;-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 14:56, 1 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks for the welcome :)

Hey, thanks for the welcome, glad you liked my site :) (even if it badly needs rewriting from scratch...) and yep, my aspergersish pedantism about detail would just not let me leave the page on accents saying Aerilon accent was "diluted northern english" when it was a Yorkshire accent (got one or two friends living there), so that's why I created an account! Oh, and happy birthday!!! :) take care, Marianne 10:18, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

INTJ

First, happy birthday! Second, my wife just took the myers-briggs yesterday (during her residency orientation), and came out INTJ. I took it in college for a software engineering class (and maybe again in ROTC) and came out INTP. The J, though, will come into play at a later date. (This won't make sense until later, but being a wiki... this is not that unusual.) --Steelviper 13:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy birthday! I am seriously considering adding a jungtype= field to Template:User Data, seriously. Doing the test myself as well, 102 questions take some time though. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:51, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy birthday! -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:48, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

Thanks, everyone! I tried to do something other than the wiki to celebrate... --Spencerian 09:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Y'all have got me curious now about this test. Is there a place I can take it online? --BklynBruzer 09:29, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Sure. The Myers-Briggs-based test is here. The morality test is here (both links are from Marianne's home page). On a side note, my test was given professionally many years ago, so I'm more apt to continue noting my INTJ class than any that are generated here. --Spencerian 09:43, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Happy late B-Day! I was away for a while. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 16:08, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

For the record, I'm an ISTP. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

ENTJ here. That's it, I'm definitely gonna do the jungtype field tomorrow. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 16:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

ESTP. --BklynBruzer 17:32, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

WTLFM (Way to long for me). :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 19:48, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

Interesting one. In other words, you scored RGDL? --BklynBruzer 20:04, 20 June 2007 (CDT)

The INTJs can take solace in that, if he were real, Gandalf would be an INTJ, and that worked out pretty well for him. :) My scores keep oscillating between INTP, ISTP and INTJ. I like being weird as an INTJ, frankly. I just don't want everyone else to know about it. :/ --Spencerian 10:47, 21 June 2007 (CDT)

Question about commas

I noticed some weird comma placement in your edits. You always write things "In the episode, "Downloaded",..."

Why is there a comma in front of the episode title? Is this some specific grammar rule I don't know about? Because to me it doesn't make any sense to put a comma there. It isn't a separate sentence part and there shouldn't be a pause there. Neither is the episode title a parenthesis, since the sentence doesn't make sense without it :) --Serenity 05:28, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

You're right...it's likely a mental thing. I should write it "In the episode "Downloaded", there was this thing." I suspect I write it that way because episode titles "throw off" the grammar of the sentence when I read them, although they are names and are just objects of the sentence. As a result, I put in a pause to mentally set off the title to prevent confusing it as a element that forms the message of the sentence. It's like this example.

In the episode "You Should Have Watched Yesterday", Tom dies."

The quotations are supposed to set the episode apart, but it never works for me. Not that I should go and reinvent English grammar, however. I'll work my way out of the two-comma habit. --Spencerian 13:20, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Ah ok. That makes some sense. It wasn't meant as huge criticism and you don't have to go around changing everything. Just something I noticed and wondered about. --Serenity 13:25, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

By the way, I think commas go inside quotes --BklynBruzer 21:54, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

For episodes, I think any punctuation goes outside the quotes/parenthesis unless separating more than one episode. --Veepz 22:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, generally we use American punctuation, though personally I hate it, since it doesn't make sense either. But we decided to make an exception for episode titles, since they aren't really quotes. It just looks bad to put the punctuation inside in that case. --Serenity 05:17, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

I'm having a strange sense of de'ja vu. I just got used to putting punctuation OUTSIDE of quotes after the change. If this is a serious point, let's move it back to BW:SAC. I think we're nitpicking...we just need to be consistent, at least in any one article. --Spencerian 12:34, 26 July 2007 (CDT)

User Image

Best one so far! :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 11:02, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

And not one bit of Photoshop! Note the squeegee! --Spencerian 11:52, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

yay! ya.. i noticed that the first time around. :) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 12:04, 5 September 2007 (CDT)

So sorry...

It was a good game. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 15:19, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Well, can't have everything. I'm rooting for the Packers. They always have heart and deserve it. --Spencerian 17:54, 13 January 2008 (CST)

The NFC game will be interesting. Friends here @ work are putting NYG over GB 3 to 1, however, both teams are evenly match. One is good at passing, the other running. Both play in snow, cold weather. The SD v. Pats game is a joke. SD should forfeit now. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 23:03, 13 January 2008 (CST)

Proud Cheesehead, here! It'll be interesting to see the looks I get from my fellow New Yorkers while I wear my Packers paraphernalia. --BklynBruzer 09:08, 14 January 2008 (CST)

Matrix etc. :)

http://battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=4381&postcount=7 ... Look @ 217kb image. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 02:31, 25 January 2008 (CST)

Thriller?

Latest comment: 16 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

My sources tell me that you perform a mean "Thriller" dance... Have an interesting story behind that? :D -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus} 05:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Oh, no. It almost makes me happy that I can't go to DragonCon this year. Mind you, dancing in a deckhand jumpsuit is intimidating enough, not to mention hot. But wait a minute...did I dance to that song? All that alcohol make things so blurry... :) --Spencerian 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

hahah! Shane (talk) 16:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Recent problems

Hey again, Spencerian--I hope you are well. About a month ago, you said that the wiki would be going to a standby mode or something (I don't remember the details and I can't check them because every attempt to access my talk page results in an error message). Do you know if the recent problems (main page and inability to edit a few other pages plus the aforementioned talk page, in addition to ongoing French and German site issues) are related to this "standby mode"? Are they continuations of older problems? Anything you can do to shed light on this would help. Thanks, and happy holidays! -- BlueResistance 19:27, 13 December 2014 (EST)

Hello Spencerian! Sorry I didn't see your message on my talk page literally years ago, but thanks for the message. I do check in here every so often. That the wiki is still online makes me happy and almost unbearable nostalgic for times past. I suppose I should ask Joe what might be needed to help keep this online as I'm Facebook friends with him. I hope all is well with you and yours! JubalHarshaw 21:55, 14 February 2016 (EST)

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-Transferred my basic bio from Wikipedia to here. To all of us BSG addicts: Praise the Lords of Kobol and pass the munitions...  [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:52, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)
+''For discussions prior to January 1, 2006, [http://battlestarwiki.org/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASpencerian&diff=21890&oldid=21664 click here.]''
-Annililated three major stub pages today. Guess I'm all hyped up for Season 2's premiere today. Stop me before I de-stub again... [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:51, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)
+''For discussions prior to June 1, 2006, [http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=60768 click here.]''
-: [[Wikipedia:Destroy All Humans|Destroy All Humans]]!... erm, I mean stubs.  :-) Yes, please keep on nuking all the stubs.  Thanks! :-) -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 17:51, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)
+''For discussions prior to September 1, 2006, [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=75116 click here.]''
-== We're a POV Wiki, Within Reason ==
+''For discussions prior to December 18, 2006, [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=93841 click here.]''
-This is just my understanding, but BSG Wiki is not quite like the formal Wikipedia. As such, as we enter factual information about the episode, we also may add opinion, some commentary, and speculation as appropriate. This is definiitely different from Wikipedia where such Personal Point of View comments are not acceptable. One thing that we must remember not to do is to get all bent out of shape and delete an opposing view simply because we have a different interpretation of events. One suggestion is to add a counterpoint with sufficient reasons or evidence that support your view. This is fiction, and I doubt that RDM will explain everything (where's the fun if he did that?), so we're left to figure things out on our own. So, don't hack and slash, but if you find my posts (or others) are just too wordy or prose-ridden, do what you feel is right, of course...  [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:45, 4 Aug 2005 (EDT)
+''For discussions prior to May 9, 2007,
+[http://en.battlestarwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Spencerian&oldid=121460 click here.]
-:Thanks for some of the clean-up in the Gauis Baltar and the Marines/Defense entries. I do have a question about the "tense" convention being used here on BSG-wiki. While you note that this is not wikipedia, I am curious as to why we are using present tense usage on events which occurred prior to the current episode? It seems to me events as they unfold should be used in the past-tense while ongoing terms and concepts that are presumed still active within the context of thew "current timeline" of the show would be present tense. For example, shouldn't descriptions of Baltar's background, and events which have already occurred on Caprica, etc. be in the past tense, while referring to him as the Vice President, and duties onboard Galcatica, etc. be present tense? Likewise shouldn't passages about say the development of the Mark II Viper be past tense, while current disposition and capabilities be present tense? Not trying to be overly pedantic, but if we were to use and adopt the convention that this "encyclopedia" were to be discussing things and concepts within BSG as if it "were real" so-to-speak, like say in a present day encyclopedia would describe the development of the F-14 Tomcat in past tense terms but describe current description of the presently active variants of the F-14 (i.e. the F-14D) and its deployment and present status within the arsenal of the United States Navy, it would be present tense. Whereas descriptions of say, a WWII German Stuka Bomber would all be past tense. [[User:Lestatdelc|Lestatdelc]] 12:29, 30 November 2005 (EST)
+== Sciffy Thread ==
+I reported your discovery [http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2275066 here]. I gave you credit for the find, of course, and hoped that the extra eyes on the subject might help shed some light on the "other" ship. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:16, 9 May 2007 (CDT)
+:Excellent. The more eyes on it, the better. Seven letters appear to be the key, so Olympus is possible. I haven't used my Sciffy account in months.... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:02, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
-::Thanks (and welcome!), Lestatdelc--fresh faces to help the wiki articles is always helpful. You're right--"historical" items of Gaius' history (things that happen before the series and Mini-Series) can and should be left as past-tense. But episodic info should be present tense since in fiction they are always "doing" and not "done", so instead of "Gaius shot Crashdown", it's "Gaius shoots Crashdown." The [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions]] project page details this more, and I've not been expert at it myself, but try to correct what's outside of convention whenever possible. If I've changed any of the tenses improperly, do feel free to dive in to correct. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:23, 30 November 2005 (EST)
+==Units of Measure (TOS)==
+Argh, I hate edit conflicts! Was working on that one at the same time you were. :)   [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 12:23, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
+:Sorry about that! You have the same thoughts as I do; merging like content that otherwise make articles that are too general and not wiki-specific. I'm working on [[Squadrons of Galactica]] right now. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:44, 31 May 2007 (CDT)
-== Episode Project Page? ==
+== Guyle Fraizer as Colonial One co-pilot ==
-Heya. I heard you were particularly active in writing the episode articles. If so, you might consider collaborating with some other users that are, too, to create a project page for episodes. [[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] created a [[Battlestar Wiki:Characters|Characters Project Page]] for better planning and communication. I can't speak from experience, but it might be good to make note of various conventions or templates or whatever used for episode articles. If you decide to put this together, I made a [[:Category:Project Page|Project Page]] category so we could keep track of the various convention & template pages. I don't mean to tell anyone what to do. Just thought I'd draw your attention to this. --[[User:Day|Day]] 07:18, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
+Hi there, my source for that is actually that I know Guyle personally (and yes, the one you found on the IMDB is the right one, I'm apparently just an idiot and spelled his name wrong), and he and I talked about it a few times.  :) {{unsigned|Zeppo}}
-:Hi, Day. Thanks for letting me know of this tool. I'm more of a major article content writer than article creator, so I've usually not done much in page formatting and creation. I've generally followed the lead of Peter and others who obviously have stronger wiki formatting skills, then apply or update any new material on pages that use their templates. Collectively the wiki has improved on formatting and templates, but yes, many early character bios must be cleaned up, and I'll get to Peter's character project page and your general project page to lend a hand. Same for the episode pages as applicable, although most of the second season pages appear to be in fair shape. Excellent idea. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:03, 31 August 2005 (EDT)
-== Ellen Tigh ==
+== A Comment From Mrs. Ron ==
-I have a question for you concerning your recent edit to [[Ellen Tigh]] at the bottom of [[Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions]]. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 22:33, 13 September 2005 (EDT)
+[[Terry Dresbach]], a.k.a, "Mrs. Ron" on the Skiffy boards, appreciated [http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2276767&st=120 my comments] on ''Battlestar's'' wrap-up season. Given the many messages in this fast-growing thread, I'm humbled that she noticed it. Her response sums up everything that I loved about the new series. It has given us a great ride, and so long as Ron has a stogie and scotch handy, we'll see more good things from him. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:33, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:I agree. It would be nice to go on, but in the long run it's better to end it on a high point. The main thing I'm disappointed about is that the rest of the show will probably revolve around the search for Earth and the Final Five. Which are far from my favorite themes in the show. I initially liked that it placed character over story and that seems to have changed. But I digress.
+:Anyways, I'm indifferent to the usual fan outrage as well these days, and even distanced myself a bit from message boards where constant whining seems to be the norm. When an outstanding show really hasn't been give a chance, I can get behind campaigns and be sad, but a three-hour miniseries, 4 seasons and a TV movie are really more than fair these days. If people want to think that the show was directly canceled by the network that is, as usual, to be expected; I'm willing to give the producers the benefit of the doubt. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 11:18, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Whining is the norm everywhere (except here) at this point, dude --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 12:38, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::I don't provide any cheese for all that whine, myself. I'm glad that we're not (yet) seeing a spike because of the news, but that may change. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:28, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::Your comments were great, Spencerian. It basically sums up how I feel. Personally, any time I see a worthwhile TV show survive the dreaded "Firefly" 1 season curse, I smile. Haters will complain about whatever is available; if a show ends, they'll cry about that - if it continues and "doesn't live up", they'll cry about that. Misery loves company. Just another reason to avoid forums. I'd rather be here doing something constructive. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 14:45, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::Agreed. This place is much more fun. And there is so many roads to go in finding Earth. There is going to be a meeting of minds (and maybe more) in what the Cylons and Colonials truly mean to each other. And it may even leave the story just a little open for a backstory. Just my opinion, but You Heard It Here First. :) Terry notes that, in her opinion, ''Caprica'' will not make it. But there are so many shows that could use a "re-imagining". As one Slashdot writer said about Ron's abilities: "If I heard he was going to re-imagine ''The Phone Book'', I'd watch it." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:52, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::::That's what I was thinking too: Ron and his people have made one hell of a name for themselves, if they decide to start another project, Sci Fi will happily accept it. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 05:58, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::::[[Galactica 1980 (RDM)|How about this?]] --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 08:33, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::::::I guess that depends on how S4 is gonna end. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:00, 2 June 2007 (CDT)
+: I am honestly happy to say that I'm pleased with this announcement, and I'm glad that your comments were appreciated by the right people. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 14:56, 1 June 2007 (CDT)
-== Mercury-Class Battlestar ==
+== Thanks for the welcome :) ==
-Since we have gone back and forth once, I wanted to talk to you about it here.  Stating that a battlestar is a Mercury-Class Battlestar, even if it happens to be pegasus, is not a spoiler.  It is unnecessary to be in spoiler tags.  We don't state anything else about it.
+Hey, thanks for the welcome, glad you liked my site :) (even if it badly needs rewriting from scratch...) and yep, my aspergersish pedantism about detail would just not let me leave the page on accents saying Aerilon accent was "diluted northern english" when it was a Yorkshire accent (got one or two friends living there), so that's why I created an account! Oh, and happy birthday!!! :) take care, [[User:Marianne|Marianne]] 10:18, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
-:Okay, but would that be of plausible interest to anyone who explicitly did ''not'' want to have that episode spoiled? It's not as if the Mercury class has ever been mentioned before. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 17:26, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
+== INTJ ==
+First, happy birthday! Second, my wife just took the myers-briggs yesterday (during her residency orientation), and came out INTJ. I took it in college for a software engineering class (and maybe again in ROTC) and came out INTP. The J, though, will come into play at a later date. (This won't make sense until later, but being a wiki... this is not that unusual.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 13:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+:Happy birthday! I am seriously considering adding a <code>jungtype=</code> field to [[Template:User Data]], seriously. Doing the test myself as well, 102 questions take some time though. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:51, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+:Happy birthday! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 16:48, 19 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Thanks, everyone! I tried to do something other than the wiki to celebrate... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::Y'all have got me curious now about this test. Is there a place I can take it online? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:29, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::Sure. The Myers-Briggs-based test is [http://similarminds.com/embj.html here]. The morality test is [http://www.outofservice.com/morality/ here] (both links are from Marianne's [http://xmoogle.org/me.html home page]). On a side note, my test was given professionally many years ago, so I'm more apt to continue noting my INTJ class than any that are generated here. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:43, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::Happy late B-Day! I was away for a while. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:08, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::: For the record, I'm an ISTP. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 16:21, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::ENTJ here. That's it, I'm definitely gonna do the jungtype field tomorrow. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 16:24, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::ESTP. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 17:32, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+::::WTLFM (Way to long for me). :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 19:48, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+:::::Interesting one. In other words, you scored RGDL? --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 20:04, 20 June 2007 (CDT)
+The INTJs can take solace in that, if he were real, [[w:Gandalf|Gandalf]] would be an INTJ, and that worked out pretty well for him. :) My scores keep oscillating between INTP, ISTP and INTJ. I ''like'' being weird as an INTJ, frankly. I just don't want everyone else to know about it. :/ --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:47, 21 June 2007 (CDT)
-::I understand what you're saying about not spoiling it for someone who has no interest in knowing, however this isn't stating any IMPORTANT information that would lead you to explicitly know anything.  People who are newbs to BSG wouldn't know if the Pegasus ship has been featured before, if it was going to return, or how many episodes away its return is.  And BSG veterans may know about Pegasus, but wouldn't explicitly know when or if the Pegasus were going to return.  Therefore, I submit this is not a spoiler.  However, this is specific case is not a major concern for me, the episode is two days away anyways, but rather the principle of the issue at hand because it might arise again and I'd like a consensus on the issue.  I believe that small splices of info that couldn't explicitly give away plot twists are not spoilers and therefore in the interest of not needlessly continually reediting pages that should not have been editted to begin with we should treat trivial information that does not reveal plot are not spoilers.  In conclusion I will go to our future spoiler policy's definition of a spoiler:In fandom parlance, a "spoiler" is one or more pieces of information that may spoil the user's interest in an ongoing series.  If anyone can give me a couple of reasonable explanations as to how the fact Pegasus is a Mercury-Class Battlestar is a spoiler and if a majority of people agree that trivial information not revealing plot but mention future events/items/characters I will resign the issue.--Zareck Rocks 18:50, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
+== Question about commas ==
-:::The reason that "Mercury-Class" is a spoiler is because it a term not told in any aired episode. We only know "Galactica" but have not been told yet what ''her'' class was, much less that of the others. We know (at least until "Pegasus") only that there were other more advanced battlestars. Thus, "Mercury-Class" is a spoiler. The name "Pegasus" is also one, but we got that an episode name and it's not worth protecting that matter. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:58, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
+I noticed some weird comma placement in your edits. You always write things "In the episode, "[[Downloaded]]",..."
-:::I'm inclined to state that any specifics regarding an upcoming episode that hasn't been directly outlined in say...TV Guide or the Sci-Fi channel's own description would amount to a spoiler.  I agree that the class of Battlestar is probably a trivial detail but as the episode has not aired we should leave it out until it does.  The only exception to this would be where the specific revealed happened to be part of the teaser trailer airing to promote the episode.--[[User:Feldspar|Feldspar]] 19:06, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
+Why is there a comma ''in front'' of the episode title? Is this some specific grammar rule I don't know about? Because to me it doesn't make any sense to put a comma there. It isn't a separate sentence part and there shouldn't be a pause there. Neither is the episode title a parenthesis, since the sentence doesn't make sense without it :) --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:28, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-:::: This is a spoiler according to the not-yet-instituted policy. It may be a kind of miniscule, nit pickey, lame spoiler, but it fulfills the following:<br/>
+:You're right...it's likely a mental thing. I should write it "In the episode "Downloaded", there was this thing." I suspect I write it that way because episode titles "throw off" the grammar of the sentence when I read them, although they are names and are just objects of the sentence. As a result, I put in a pause to mentally set off the title to prevent confusing it as a element that forms the message of the sentence. It's like this example.
-::::: ''Therefore a spoiler is one or more pieces of information from an episode that has yet to air'' anywhere ''in the world.''<br/>
-:::: This is just a technicality, but if you're gonna make a rule, you should follow it all the way. Maybe this is an indication that the proposed policy is a bit strict. I dunno. That's my opinion, though.  Anyway, we're not bound by the proposed one yet. For another couple days or something, anyway. I think. I can't keep things perfectly straight. --[[User:Day|Day]] 19:51, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
-:::I added my comments to the main policy page, but Peter said what I have said. ANY connecting information leads to a spoiler if it hasn't been announced officially or aired. We don't rate the importance of information as to whether it's a "big" or "small" spoiler. If it's not aired yet, it's gotta have a tag, but at least it can be added to the page. My only failure was to make whole pages as a spoiler instead of using the spoiltext tag more judgiciously--and I was corrected by others. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:58, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
+<blockquote>In the episode "You Should Have Watched Yesterday", Tom dies."</blockquote>
-:::::IMO, the policy is sound, and leaves no room for interpretation. This is a good thing, since it will keep us from having exegetical fights instead of wiki-ing. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:54, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
+:The quotations are supposed to set the episode apart, but it never works for me. Not that I should go and reinvent English grammar, however. I'll work my way out of the two-comma habit. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:20, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-: See [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Spoiler Policy/Compromise]] for my reply. -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 22:48, 21 September 2005 (EDT)
+::Ah ok. That makes some sense. It wasn't meant as huge criticism and you don't have to go around changing everything. Just something I noticed and wondered about. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:25, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
-== Laird's first name. ==
+:::By the way, I think commas go inside quotes --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 21:54, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
+:::For episodes, I think any punctuation goes outside the quotes/parenthesis unless separating more than one episode. --[[User:Veepz|Veepz]] 22:05, 25 July 2007 (CDT)
+::::Yeah, generally we use American punctuation, though personally I hate it, since it doesn't make sense either. But we decided to make an exception for episode titles, since they aren't really quotes. It just looks bad to put the punctuation inside in that case. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:17, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
+:::::I'm having a strange [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Battlestar_Wiki_talk:Standards_and_Conventions/Archive4#American_style_punctuation_with_episode_titles sense of de'ja vu.] I just got used to putting punctuation OUTSIDE of quotes after the change. If this is a serious point, let's move it back to [[BW:SAC]]. I think we're nitpicking...we just need to be consistent, at least in any one article. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:34, 26 July 2007 (CDT)
-Hello there.  I am sorry for the confusion that I may have caused you.  I personally did not find the name "Peter Laird" on any external site, I found it here on Battlestar Wiki on the [[Pegasus (episode)|Pegasus]] episode page.  Upon checking the history of the page it appears that a user by the name of [[User:Arjuna|Arjuna]] updated the page giving first names to both Chief Laird and Lieutenant Throne.    Clearly, I mistakenly believed these to be official names and proceeded to edit Laird’s profile page oblivious to the disputed and most likely non-canonical nature of his first name.  Next time I shall be sure to check the validity of a piece before I assume it is a fact, however the person you should really be questioning here is [[User:Arjuna|Arjuna]], he/she appears to be the source of these false names.
+== User Image ==
-Thank you for bringing this to my attention though, I appreciate it.
+Best one so far! :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:02, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
+:And not one bit of Photoshop! Note the squeegee! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 11:52, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
+::yay! ya.. i noticed that the first time around. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:04, 5 September 2007 (CDT)
-[[User:Kahran|Kahran]] 06:02, 29 September 2005 (EDT)
+== So sorry... ==
-: Thanks, Kahran. We've all done that here, and it's nothing to worry about.  The strongest contributors here are also the biggest sticklers to sources, and prefer less to more when it comes to information. Like Galen, Laird's name is probably ''going'' to be canon, just not yet. And, with BSG's popularity, more and more enthusiasts like you and I will want to put in their 2 cents, but need to know what's official and not. I'll check with Arjuna on the source if there is one. Thanks for responding back! [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:13, 29 September 2005 (EDT)
+It was a good game. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:19, 13 January 2008 (CST)
+:Well, can't have everything. I'm rooting for the Packers. They always have heart and deserve it. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:54, 13 January 2008 (CST)
+::The NFC game will be interesting. Friends here @ work are putting NYG over GB 3 to 1, however, both teams are evenly match. One is good at passing, the other running. Both play in snow, cold weather. The SD v. Pats game is a joke. SD should forfeit now. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:03, 13 January 2008 (CST)
+:::Proud Cheesehead, here! It'll be interesting to see the looks I get from my fellow New Yorkers while I wear my Packers paraphernalia. --[[User:BklynBruzer|BklynBruzer]] 09:08, 14 January 2008 (CST)
-== The Battlestar Disambiguation Pages-What Was Done? ==
+== Matrix etc. :) ==
-After talking with Peter on the general Battlestar page, we agreed that that page needed to be broken up and successive pages to keep the confusion down between TOS and RDM information. See the new [[Battlestar]] page, which is now a disambig page to lead you to the several pages where the data is logically broken up.
+http://battlestarforum.com/showpost.php?p=4381&postcount=7 ... Look @ 217kb image. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 02:31, 25 January 2008 (CST)
-The only problem is the original [[Galactica]] page, which should have been moved to [[Galactica (RDM)]]. Mistakenly I created that Galactica (RDM) page instead. The Galactica page could be another disambig page with links to the RDM, TOS, and Video game areas, but I stopped there (enough damage) to let Joe think of the best way to make this work.
+== Thriller? ==
-The biggest change involves the general [[Galactica]] link, which should be [[Galactica (RDM)]] by default unless a TOS page discussses it, in which case [[Galactica (TOS)]] should be used.  Please flame away: it's what the page is for.  [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 13:51, 30 September 2005 (EDT)
+My sources [http://www.colonialfleet.org/quorum/index.php?showtopic=13&view=findpost&p=77652 tell me] that you perform a mean "Thriller" dance... Have an interesting story behind that? :D -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 05:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
-== Toaster Pic ==
+:Oh, no. It almost makes me happy that I can't go to DragonCon this year. Mind you, dancing in a deckhand jumpsuit is intimidating enough, not to mention hot. But wait a minute...did I dance to that song? All that alcohol make things so blurry... :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:10, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
+::hahah! [[User:Shane|Shane]] ([[User_Talk:Shane|talk]]) 16:43, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
-Spencerian, I'm thinking of uploading an actual picture of a toaster for the "Toaster" page, or at least I'd like to see one there.  If you check out the [[Talk:Toaster]] page, I've linked to one I think looks pretty good.  I understand you're probably going to bust a tantrum because it's not appropriate or something, but I think it'll be a bit of humor that'll break a few smiles here and there.  Just tell me what you think.
+== Recent problems ==
-:''[[User:Jzanjani|Jzanjani]] 21:56, 7 October 2005 (EDT)''
-::Brilliant idea. See the [[Toaster]] page. [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 22:22, 7 October 2005 (EDT)
+Hey again, Spencerian--I hope you are well.  About a month ago, you said that the wiki would be going to a standby mode or something (I don't remember the details and I can't check them because every attempt to access my talk page results in an error message).   Do you know if the recent problems (main page and inability to edit a few other pages plus the aforementioned talk page, in addition to ongoing French and German site issues) are related to this "standby mode"?  Are they continuations of older problems?  Anything you can do to shed light on this would help.  Thanks, and happy holidays! -- [[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 19:27, 13 December 2014 (EST)
-==Your photos==
+::Hello Spencerian! Sorry I didn't see your message on my talk page literally years ago, but thanks for the message. I do check in here every so often. That the wiki is still online makes me happy and almost unbearable nostalgic for times past. I suppose I should ask Joe what might be needed to help keep this online as I'm Facebook friends with him. I hope all is well with you and yours! [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 21:55, 14 February 2016 (EST)
-Damn, sir. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 00:43, 9 October 2005 (EDT)
-:Oh, its what I do. :) [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:23, 9 October 2005 (EDT)
-::Ooh! Hottie!--[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 12:25, 9 October 2005 (EDT)
-== I'd like to draw you're attention... ==
-...to [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Standards and Conventions#The Freakin.27 Quote-o-Matic|this discissuion]] again. You were one of the only two other people to reply to it initially, and I'd appriciate feedback, befor putting my most recent proposal up on the [[Battlestar Wiki:Standards and Conventions|main page]]. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Day|Day]] 12:17, 31 October 2005 (EST)
-== Cally ==
-Question: Why'd you change the picture width of her template pic to 150px? The Characters page says use 200px and the template's own talk page says so, too. I'll go change it back right now, but--I thought I'd start a dialog about it, too, in case there's some good reason I don't know about. --[[User:Day|Day]] 14:29, 10 November 2005 (EST)
-:OK. I think I got very annoyed at the large perspective of the shot, despite it being at the 200px convention. Sometimes it may be better not to have the larger shot as the picture eclipses the article. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:30, 10 November 2005 (EST)
-== Costume Idea ==
-Dude. You should consider Terry Tate. The man is a Golden God. I can't find all his commercials (they're out there, though), but [http://www.advertisementave.com/tv/ad.asp?adid=526 here's one]. --[[User:Day|Day]] 14:43, 10 November 2005 (EST)
-Ahha. [http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5922/terry_tate_long_version/ This is a longer version], which has some clips that are priceless and does some better close-ups. I especially like the tackling technique at the end. He doesn't just slam the dude. He goes in for the ball-strip, too, to force a fumble. Okay. I'm done on this topic now. --[[User:Day|Day]] 14:50, 10 November 2005 (EST)
-:Oh. My. God. Being one of the whitest black men in America, I don't think I can do this one justice! Still wiping the tears out of my eyes, though. I think I lost it when Tate complained of the lack of cover sheets on a victim's TPS reports. Maybe I can do Lumbergh from ''Office Space''... :)
-:''Rrrrright''... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:41, 10 November 2005 (EST)
-:: You don't think you could pull off Terry-at-the-Finance-Meeting? With the reading glasses, pointer and jeresey? Heh. I have a friend who must be very like you, except much, much skinnier. We've been telling people for years that he's the whitest black man they'll ever meet. Now I guess I've met two. ;) --[[User:Day|Day]] 14:57, 11 November 2005 (EST)
-== Creative Commons ==
-Okay, crash course: All the non-image content we ''create'' on this wiki is automatically under the Creative Commons Non-Commercial Attribution Share-alike license, version 2.0 or greater.
-Because of this, we cannot incorporate work into the textual areas of the wiki which are copyrighted or licensed under incompatible terms (e.g. the GFDL). A certain amount of leeway is allowed for "fair use", such as scholarly quotations.
-Image content we create remains under the exclusive copyright of the uploader unless a written waiver is provided or the image is explicitly provided under an Free Content license on the description page
-Images copyrighted by Universal Studios stay copyrighted by universal studios, no matter who is hosting them - any credit given to TwizTV or other sources is a mere formality, since universal is the sole rights holder. Thus, taking a screen capture from another site (as Ricimer has done before) is legally no different than taking a screen capture yourself.
-Copyrighted and GFDL work cannot be used "under the Creative Commons license" - because we don't own the copyrights, we have no right to relicense the work. What we can do, in limited circumstances (including most screenshots here), is claim ''fair use''. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 12:13, 21 November 2005 (EST)
-:OK, Peter. Based on what you said, the screen captures I've pulled from TVIV are still appropriately obtained. I've not grabbed textual content from any other sites lately, per your last clarification on the differences between CCL and GFDL, so I understand now that my recent images are fair-use and not really CCL. Makes the whole idea of share-alike too confusing to make it worthwhile, and certainly not practically usable for us without a clear primer. I'd rather not get into learning legalities for fear of realizing I've turned paralegal and mercy-killing myself as a societal gesture of goodwill... ---[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:15, 21 November 2005 (EST)
-::Sorry if I came off testy - I just don't have any desire for Joe to get a cease-and-desist e-mail over a silly accident. That would be a bummer. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 20:56, 21 November 2005 (EST)
-:::Not a problem, Peter. Taking the time to chastise and clarify things with me indicates your mutual concern and enjoyment for the wiki, so I don't take it at all personally. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:35, 22 November 2005 (EST)
-==''Administrator'' Spencerian?==
-I have [[Battlestar Wiki:Requests for adminship/Spencerian| nominated]] you to be one of the new administrators. --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 18:34, 16 December 2005 (EST)
-:Thanks for that, Ricimer. I appreciate the gesture. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:05, 17 December 2005 (EST)
-::While I'd hate to take time from your contributions (nice job on D'anna), I think I may have gotten some more of the request for admin stuff figured out.  Whenever you get a chance to fill out the questions on your [[Battlestar Wiki:Requests for adminship/Spencerian|nomination]], you can then put the subpage on the main RFA page like Ricimer's. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 14:55, 21 December 2005 (EST)
-:::Yes, I saw that the page was up, and I'm still in a small state of shock and awe about all this. I'll fill in some answers as soon as I can think of something witty and professional (and maybe not as caffeine-intoxicated) :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:59, 21 December 2005 (EST)
-==Congrats!==
-Kevin, just wanted you to know that you have some shiny new tabs on the top of your page. Congratulations and happy new year! :-) -- [[User:Joe.Beaudoin|Joe Beaudoin]] 12:26, 30 December 2005 (EST)
-:Thanks! I vow to use my newfound powers for truth, justice, and the Colonial way! :) --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:20, 30 December 2005 (EST)
-::So, exactly where do we mail the bribes? --[[User:Watcher|Watcher]] 22:05, 30 December 2005 (EST)
-::: Congrammulations, Elizagerth. --[[User:Day|Day]] 20:57, 31 December 2005 (EST)
-==The CNP==
-In the mini-series, Doral comes to Baltar on Ragnar with a list of civilian ships that have the CNP, which indicates that there are non-military ships with the program.
-Furthermore, there are a '''lot''' of Vipers leaving the Galactica at Ragnar to engage the Cylons.  I was under the impression there were only twenty Mark II Vipers aboard the Galactica, and that its original Mark VII squadron was destroyed on the way back to Caprica.  Therefore, at least some of those Vipers might have been the survivors of other ships that made their way to Ragnar after Adama gave the order to rendezvous there for a counterattack.
-Furthermore, later in the series, the Galactica seems to have an awful lot of Raptors, and Crashdown is described as being a refugee from the Triton, which IIRC was one of the battlestars destroyed around the time of the Atlantia.  Therefore, it seems that some Raptors might have made their way there was well.  The Raptors also have FTL (unlike, apparently, the Vipers) and judging by how the Raiders never tried to virus Boomer and Helo, Raptors might be less suspectible to Cylon interference, so any Raptors that escaped the destruction of their battlestars would have an easier time getting away from the Cylons then Vipers would.
-Also, Dualla describes reports of system failures throughout the Fleet, and then describes how a battlestar lost power.  How effective was the CNP with the capital ships?  We've seen it used quite effectively on Vipers, but Dualla's description of its effects on battlestars is vague (power loss in at least one case and undescribed "system failures").
-Congrats on being made Admin.
---[[User:mq59|mq59]] 12:16, 3 January 2006 (EST)
-:Hi, Mq59. I remember the scene with Doral (in CIC, Baltar was being "serviced" by virtual Six when he was interrupted) and will review it on my copy of the miniseries; you may be right on the CNP's use on civilian ships. As far as Crashdown's origination, it's not clear if he flew in on a Raptor (the largest of any refugee ship; no other indications show any other Colonial Fleet craft escaped to Ragnar) or even flew in at all; Valerii may have been kidding about a transfer he made from the ''Triton'' before the attack. We don't have enough information to pull a good speculation here, although I would defer it to escaped since we know Raptors have FTL ability and are small enough not to be noticed as well by Cylon forces. We just don't have any information from the Miniseries that additional ships made it. Raptors had CNP as well, but yes, since they are designed for electronic countermeasures, they may be less subceptible to infiltration, CNP or not. If you can find Doral's exact line to Baltar, that will be enough as a source. However, we shouldn't globally say that all civilian ships used the CNP; it's practical that commercial commerce ships, such as modern freighters, may use similar hardware from the same ship contractor that builds military ships and so have a similar specification for CNP. Most civilian ships, such as passenger liners, were just defenseless and easy to destroy, CNP or not.
-:The CNP was very effective, obviously: all but two battlestars were destroyed. We saw in "Valley of Darkness" what happens when a battlestar is infected. We know that, while the battlestar may not have been fully shutdown like a fighter would, the number of systemic failures would be enough to leave a battlestar effectively defenseless and fodder for a basestar and her fighters. If a second Cylon fight occurred during "Valley", ''Galactica'' would have been screwed. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:49, 3 January 2006 (EST)
-Peter Farago found the "civilians with the CNP" quote and put it in the "Talk: CNP article."
-I know no capital ships made it to Ragnar.  However, it seemed they had too many Vipers and Raptors (the Vipers in the mini and the Raptors during the actual series) for an about-to-be-decommissioned ship.
-The CNP worked--it seems like virtually all the Colonial Fleet was destroyed in a single day (not sure what length of time the miniseries actually covers, but it's not that long).  I was curious about how effective it was and how many casualties the Cylons could have theoretically suffered.
-I may write a fanfic called "The Death of the Poseidon" describing the destruction of a battlestar during the opening attack--the Raiders shut down virtually all of the Vipers and destroy the defenseless Raptors, but lose many Raiders trying to close with the "Poseidon" to trigger the CNP (a Raider "eye-dance" in the mini and "Flight of the Phoenix" seems to be the preferred way of jacking with the Colonials).  The Poseidon's fire controls go haywire and main power shuts down, enabling the Cylons to launch a bunch of nukes.  By the time they get the backups running, the nukes are too close to shoot down and BANG!
-Hmm...if I make the battlestar the "Triton" instead of the "Poseidon," perhaps I can involve Crashdown.
---[[User:mq59|mq59]] 1:24, 3 January 2006 (EST)