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| Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs. | | Senior chiefs are, in Wikipedia's terminology, bureaucrats who have the ability to make other users into chiefs. They also have the ability to check user and other advance functions not under the purview of the chiefs. |
| Currently senior chiefs are: | | Currently senior chiefs are: |
| *[[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] | | * Active |
| *[[User:Shane|Shane]] | | ** [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] |
| *[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] | | * Inactive |
| | ** [[User:Shane|Shane]] |
| | ** [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] |
| | ** [[User:NCommander|NCommander]] (Technical Issues Only) |
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| ===Chiefs=== | | ===Chiefs=== |
| Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are: | | Chiefs are administrators who have access to move, delete and restore pages as well as blocking malicious users. The current chiefs are: |
| * Active | | * Active |
| | **[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] (established by Joe Baudoin since August 17, 2012) |
| | **[[User:Enabran|Enabran]] |
| | **[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] |
| | **[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] |
| | **[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] |
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| | **[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] |
| **[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] | | **[[User:Catrope|Catrope]] |
| **[[User:Gougef|Gougef]] | | **[[User:Day|Day]] |
| **[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]]
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| **[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] | | **[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] |
| **[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] | | **[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] |
| * Inactive
| | **[[User:Gougef|Gougef]] |
| **[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] | | **[[User:Jonathan|Jonathan]] (PR Coordinator) |
| **[[User:Day|Day]] | | **[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact) |
| **[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] | |
| **[[User:Talos|Talos]] | | **[[User:Talos|Talos]] |
| **[[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] (Primary Wiki Frakr! Contact)
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| See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]] | | See [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators|list of all chiefs on Battlestar Wiki]] |
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| == Javascript Reported Vandals == | | = Discussions = |
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| == [[User:Zini]] and [[User:Zinistuff]] ==
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| How do we handle [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=newusers&user=Zini}} this]? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:51, 11 February 2008 (CST)
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| :We've seen this before. It's a low-level item that Joe should be able to intercept. The user has been contacted to choose an account, but there was the matter of ensuring that users couldn't make such accounts. Joe should know. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 17:00, 11 February 2008 (CST)
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| :: I thought we disabled this option... guess we have to re-take a look at the LocalSettings.php file :P [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:36, 12 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::Fact is, you can't disable this through the regular $wgGroupPermissions interface: everyone, even logged-in users, are in the implicit <code>*</code> group and will therefore be able to create accounts (because <code>$wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = true;</code>). There is [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgAccountCreationThrottle this], which requires memcached (which is probably why we didn't use it before; Joe's set up memcached about a week ago). I couldn't find anything in the MediaWiki docs directly disabling account creation by registered users; it should be noted, though, that it would be easy to circumvent such a restriction by simply logging out. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:39, 12 February 2008 (CST)
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| == Last Supper ==
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| On this page http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Season_4_%282008%29 in the last point under GENERAL it reads ....
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| "In an Entertainment Weekly interview, Ron Moore reveals who is not the fifth Cylon. According to the article, neither William Adama, Lee Adama, Laura Roslin, Kara Thrace, Karl Agathon, nor Gaius Baltar is the fifth Cylon. However, this is discredited by Aaron Douglas (Galen Tyrol), see The Last Supper for more information."
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| Could you please reword the above because it makes it sound like Aaron Douglas is disagreeing with Ron that the fifth Cylon is not in the photo. Aaron said no such thing. Aaron was asked if there was any hidden meaning to the photo (because fans were mirroring the image and trying to find clues in the altered image). Aaron discredited the mirroring of the image, not what Ron said. {{unsigned|Meshel73}}
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| : I've fixed it. Let me know if it's up to snuff. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:04, 17 February 2008 (CST)
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| == Magazines ==
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| Since we have an article on [[Playboy Magazine, February 2007]], I was wondering if other magazines with a BSG focus would have any merit? I.e. certain issues of ''Starlog'', ''Sci Fi Magazine'', &c. [[User:DrWho42|DrWho42]] 20:13, 17 February 2008 (CST)
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| : I wouldn't be averse to an article on a list of BSG's magazine appearances, but to do an article on each would be overkill, I think. On the other hand, if there is a serious BSG focus or theme to a magazine, then we can do an article per magazine issue. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 03:47, 18 February 2008 (CST)
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| == Dismissable site notice ==
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| I noticed someone installed the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DismissableSiteNotice DismissableSitenotice extension] recently, which means logged-in users will see a [dismiss] link next to the site notice and you won't see the site notice again until someone changes it. Note that this means anyone editing the [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|site notice]] '''must''' increment the number at [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice id]] (empty at the time of writing, should be created and set to 1 after the next edit to the site notice). I thought I should announce this at the Chiefs' noticeboard, since only Chiefs can edit the site notice and should be aware of the new protocol (incrementing the sitenotice ID). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:45, 18 February 2008 (CST)
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| :I plead the fifth. :) It was not me this time. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:50, 18 February 2008 (CST)
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| :Okie-dokie! --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:59, 18 February 2008 (CST)
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| : Yeah, I planned on doing that anyway. :P -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:25, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| == Initial survey responses ==
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| So far, I've been amazed at the initial responses to the survey. I've been receiving some excellent feedback, which is what I'm looking for, really. Here are some initial trends I'm seeing:
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| # We have an audience that's focused on the Re-imagined Series. (No surprise there, really, since that ''is'' on everyone's minds right now!)
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| # People don't really look to us for merchandise information. There's a definite focus on the episodes, characters, behind-the-scenes, battles, tech, and ships.
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| Things we need to improve upon...
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| # We need to have multiple versions of the current skin. There's no way around it. Some people have talked about the colors being too dark, so lighter colors would work.
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| # Also, there's a need to allow non-contributors to submit corrections as well.
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| # Unregistered (or not logged in) users also want to be able to read the talk pages again, which is an easy fix. But they want that option.
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| # People also want easier navigation, which means we're going to have to retool the sidebar in order to achieve it. Fortunately, I've had this in mind for a while now, and we can probably integrate the portal links into the sidebar for greater effect and usability. (See: [[Battlestar Wiki:Think Tank/Sidebar Redesign]] for the proposed changes.)
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| ## Some have also commented about the placement of the search bar. '''Update:''' This has been fixed in the new skin. The search bar is now on the side.
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| # People want to know how to contribute information or use the website. We need help documentation on how to effectively use the website, since we are an immense resource... immense enough where some people tend to get lost, it seems like, and are unable to extricate themselves from that.
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| === Important, but long term development stuff ===
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| # There are people wanting to have more analysis on characters. Some of them have noted that many of the character articles rehash plot points, which is an issue some of us behind-the-scenes have brought up time and time again as well.
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| # There are people wanting more behind-the-scenes information.
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| === Mid-level importance ===
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| # <s>Also, some have commented on how bad the built-in search feature is. I've commented on this in the past as well, so we're probably going to use Google, until the MediaWiki people know how to develop a better built-in search feature.</s> Update: We're using Google as our primary search engine. Nothing in the way of the search box has changed, so the "Go" button will still work, and all that jazz. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 16:55, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| ===Comments===
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| There's a lot here so far, with over 40 responses in just the last day... So digest, discuss, and maybe do a [[BW:TANK|think tank]] or three. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 08:54, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :You mean unregistered users can't read talk pages? Why would we want that? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 08:58, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :: The mindset was that people only came here for information, and people didn't want to see the behind-the-scenes talk... Obviously, that isn't the case. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:03, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::That one was actually bugging me too. When you came in on a talk page, there'd be no "article" link either. It's good to have the context of both available, even if you're just reading. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:59, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :1.) As said, the unfortunate lack of character analysis has been noted already. It's been rectified with one or two articles, but overall it's kind of a mess. Kinda sad, that with a series so heavily focused on character interaction, people felt the need to rehash the story and focus on trivial tech nonsense instead. In hindsight, this should have been different from the beginning, but now we are somewhat stuck with it. I made [[Battlestar Wiki:Think Tank/Character Bio Project/To Do|this page]] you can evaluate the character articles and note things that need to be done. While many need to improved, a few are quite good actually.
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| :2.) I agree on the search function. It has bugged me too in that it often doesn't find what you look for unless the article already exists.
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| :3.) Not sure on behind-the-scenes information. We aren't a news site and can't be one. We do have some behind-the-scenes information on the show and the people working on it, and it could be extended I guess, but if people expect articles on the newest going-ons that probably won't happen. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 09:10, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::For the search thing we could try [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LuceneSearch the LuceneSearch extension] which is also used by Wikipedia and friends. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:15, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::Well, I'm turned off by the memory usage on the sucker... Plus it's just better for us to go Google anyway, that way we won't impact the performance of both servers. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:31, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::As for the skin (aka my department) I take full responsibility for that. I carried the colors over from the BsgBook type and I guess massed up, it doesn't sit right. Myself and Joe already talked about using the colors from the blog, in the same design look. Navbar, no problem. Rehashing that is easy. As far as the search bar, there is only so many places for it to go. I can add a second one before the bottom bar. I think we need to really focus on [[BW:TUT]] which is pretty much established. Make it stand out and also expand the To-Do topics a bit more. Maybe we can get the Help preview filled. I've never really like merchandise information on the front page, but we should still create articles about it and use our referral links to gather some sort of income for server costs, etc. Maybe it's time to open up the flood gates to unregiested users being able to edit. we would for sure have to setup the [[BW:VANDL]] patrol and change the "trusted" group to have patrol permissions. That's about it from me. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:42, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::::I'd be in favor of that. I'll get started writing a revert bot next week (too busy this week), which will be available to all patrollers (of course, the trusted group would also need the rollback right in that case) so mass edits can be reverted easier. I'll extend the bot to revert moves and page creations too (although the latter needs sysop access of course; trusted users can't delete pages). When all of this is up and running, we could also experiment with allowing autoconfirmed users to move pages (see also [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Think Tank/Move Squad#Autoconfirmed|this discussion]]).
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| ::::Furthermore, we should write up a patrolling 101 at [[BW:PATROL]] so patrollers know how to mark edits as patrolled, how to revert thenm and how to use the revert bot. All this sounds like a good idea for a [[BW:TANK]] proposal to me. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 10:22, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| === "Opening the Flood Gates" ===
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| I'm not in favor of "opening the floodgates", simply because quality of the wiki would probably go down, not up. Sure, it might get a few more contributors, but quality people are hard to come by. Also, it's harder to hold accountability to anonymous users, so I would oppose that.
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| There are other alternatives to having people send in corrections... which I'm working on right now and will have more detail in the next few days. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 10:33, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :I'm not too keen on it either. Registration probably keeps away very casual readers who see an error here and there. But if someone reads the Wiki often and has ideas for changes, I don't see why they can't take a few minutes and get an account. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 10:56, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :I'm just wary of the "RC Patrol" culture that seems to develop when you have to deal with anonymous vandalism. You end up with a class of users that spends all of their effort cleaning up vandalism, and seem to sometimes develop a paranoia regarding sockpuppets, etc. I like that our admins are generally contributors first, so you don't see those self-nom RFA's where the user is mostly wanting block powers to more effectively execute their RC patrol. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 16:45, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :: I agree. "RC Patrolling" and fighting vandalism is a time waster, pure and simple. It detracts from the main purpose of working on a reference in the first place, which is what I referred to earlier. We don't come here to fight vandals, but to increase our knowledge base and improve the quality of the site... Everyone who contributes has a set amount of time for this, since we all do this in our "spare time"... And frankly, I don't like the culture that Wikipedia generates in terms "vandalism patrol" or "RC patrol"... it's very poisonous and causes more problems than its worth. It's one of the things I got sick of when I contributed to Wikipedia.
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| :: As you noted SV, where we stand out as people is that we have this unwritten motto that we're "contributors first, chiefs second". Basically, we have an efficient work ethic and I'd be really loathe to destroy that by bringing down the floodgates. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:10, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| == Google Search ==
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| Only one caveat about the Google search. While it may be a more intuitive search experience, you do lose the specify namespace on the search. The only application I really used that for was for searching the podcast namespace, so maybe we shouldn't worry about it, but I thought I'd mention the use-case (oddball though it may be). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 17:01, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| : Good point. Hadn't really thought of that... Of course, you could always searc the namespaces by using syntax such as: <code>Podcast + additional search term</code> -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:10, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::True, though I don't know how much the boolean and other search operators have percolated into the general knowledge. Clicking a checkbox is way easier (although, like I said before, I don't know how often that really ever happened anyway). Ooh... Maybe we could put a special search box on the podcast project home (or someplace like that) that encapsulates that logic so that a user can search the namespace easily. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 21:37, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::I was thinking of a drop down menu next to the search box with "All", "Talk", "Portal", "Portal talk", "Podcast", and all the other namespaces, which would then be passed on as one string so as to make things easier... It's something that most sites do, so people would know of that, obviously.-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 22:10, 19 February 2008 (CST)
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| I worked on a new layout for the main page on [[BW:MAIN]]. Input, comments welcome by all. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:03, 20 February 2008 (CST)
| | == Request For Article Deletion == |
| :At first glance, the only difference is that the merchandise section is gone. Did you change anything else? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:42, 20 February 2008 (CST)
| | Hello, I hope this is the correct page to ask for such things. I have done a lot of editing on the BSG: Deadlock articles and I have taken note that there was a duplicate article created (possibly my mistake) Please can I request that [[Assault Raptor|this]] (assault raptor) article be deleted? The duplicate for this article is [[Assault Raptor (Deadlock)|here]]. {{unsigned|Fisher 2000}} |
| : I have a list of recommendations [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Main page#Quote box positioning and other things|here]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 07:08, 21 February 2008 (CST)
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| :Blogs are down from the main box. Feature picture and project are moved. to where the blogs used to be. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:26, 21 February 2008 (CST)
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| :The audio button for episodes (see [[33]] and [[Water]] for examples) currently sits atop the "Dismiss" link for the site survey. We should adjust things so that site messages and the audio link aren't fighting for space; the audio button should be within the episode article body. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 14:33, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::Fixed :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:40, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::Well, sorta. After I refreshed the cache of Firefox (Mac), the audio button appears slightly lower below the "Dismiss" link, but not by much. Another problem...Featured article and nominated badges also get in the way of that link, too. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 18:12, 22 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::::Done. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:24, 23 February 2008 (CST)
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| == PHP upgrade? ==
| | : No worries! The duplicate has been deleted. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:05, 14 February 2024 (UTC) |
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| While testing my API framework on Battlestar Wiki, I ran into a compatibility problem in PHP's serialze() output. The problem is that the PHP serialize output changed somewhere between versions, so my (new) version expects data in a different format than the BSWiki server outputs, causing an error. Maybe you guys could upgrade PHP when you start your upgrade spree (1.12, extensions)? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:14, 23 February 2008 (CST)
| | == lost access to my old account == |
| :Yep. I'll do that now then. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:18, 23 February 2008 (CST)
| | hello! this is [[User:DrWho42]] from a new account. my old account used an old university email which i no longer have access to. if possible, i would like to regain access in preparation for the new series (love sam esmail and ''mr. robot''!).-[[User:DoctorWho42|DoctorWho42]] ([[User talk:DoctorWho42|talk]]) 02:03, 5 January 2020 (PST) |
| :Running the instlal test. Once it passes, I will shut down Apache while I install the new version. 5.2.5. Shouldn't take long. [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:41, 23 February 2008 (CST)
| | : Send me an email at webmaster@battlestarwiki.org with your new email address. I should be able to update your account and send you a password reset link. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 18:40, 5 January 2020 (PST) |
| : Done. 5.2.5 active. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:44, 23 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::Thanks. There seems to be a different problem, though: the output is prefixed by a space. Can you grep for files that have a space before the <code><?php</code> or one after the <code>?></code> (the latter shouldn't occur anywhere, though). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:58, 23 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::In the skin? [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:11, 23 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::::Maybe. All I know is that there's some PHP file with a leading or trailing newline (not a space, sorry). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 15:22, 23 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::::Would this include extensions as well? Or no? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:41, 23 February 2008 (CST) | |
| :::::While I'm on that tangent, could it be the DismissableSiteNotice that mucks things up? After all, it does generate a space in the main skin, and doubtless on others. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 17:42, 23 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::Can you run a debugger to see which file it stops at? There are over 100+ files. I am not going through all of them to remove new lines which I keep so I don't loose my mind when looking at the code. :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:33, 23 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::It could be an extension, yes. DismissableSitenotice is the most likely suspect, followed by other recently installed extensions. I unfortunately don't have a way of checking which .php file is guilty. You could use grep(1) to look for a newline followed by <?php , or you could check the most recently installed extensions first and hope it's in one of them. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:48, 24 February 2008 (CST)
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| ::::For one thing that I lack it's using grep. Tell me what I would enter into the shell to look for it :) [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:30, 24 February 2008 (CST)
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| :::::<code>grep '<?php' -n *.php | grep -v ':1:'</code>. The first grep searches for all occurrences of <code><?php</code> and prints line numbers too (-n), the second grep filters the output for all matches not on the first line (-v lists only non-matching lines). --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:36, 24 February 2008 (CST)
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| Have we found the culprit yet? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 09:36, 26 February 2008 (CST)
| | == Improperly Archived Talk Pages == |
| :No. Could you run the grep command I posted above in some of the extension directories? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 09:44, 26 February 2008 (CST) | | I'm seeing a lot of archived pages in the Talk namespace with "/Archive 1" appended to their names, where the corresponding unprefixed Talk page does not exist. It looks like someone mass-archived talk pages and neglected to create new talk pages or an archive index. I suggest that we move these pages back to their unprefixed titles, with a bot or mass edit tool if possible. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] ([[User talk:April Arcus|talk]]) 19:59, 12 April 2020 (PDT) |
| | : This was caused by the initial deployment of the [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:StructuredDiscussions StructuredDiscussions extension]. It should've provided a link the "archive" from the main "talk" page, but it didn't deploy that. I'm seeing about a means to rectify that. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:17, 13 April 2020 (PDT) |
| | :: 👍 --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] ([[User talk:April Arcus|talk]]) 16:57, 13 April 2020 (PDT) |
