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[[User:Jzanjani|Jzanjani]], your summary of events here is very well written, but I wonder if it's necessary to go into such detail on this article - the topic is Earth, not Roslin's various visions. Would you mind if I tried to make it a little more concise? --[[User: | [[User:Jzanjani|Jzanjani]], your summary of events here is very well written, but I wonder if it's necessary to go into such detail on this article - the topic is Earth, not Roslin's various visions. Would you mind if I tried to make it a little more concise? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 04:01, 5 October 2005 (EDT) | ||
:I agree, this is on the Line. Further, this page should *definately* be turned into a disambiguation page and split into two separate ones: one for TOS Earth, one for RDM Earth. RDM's Earth could be entirely different from the old one. ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005 | :I agree, this is on the Line. Further, this page should *definately* be turned into a disambiguation page and split into two separate ones: one for TOS Earth, one for RDM Earth. RDM's Earth could be entirely different from the old one. ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005 | ||
::Ricimer, I think I agree with your statement about colonial FTL drive, but I thought it would be prudent to point out that colonial sublight engines also run on Tylium - c.f. Apollo's ready room comments in "Resistance". --[[User: | ::Ricimer, I think I agree with your statement about colonial FTL drive, but I thought it would be prudent to point out that colonial sublight engines also run on Tylium - c.f. Apollo's ready room comments in "Resistance". --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 12:15, 5 October 2005 (EDT) | ||
I think we should avoid splitting pages according to different series, especially when the amount of information we have on the subject is so sparse. All the information we have on Earth easily fits into one screen of properly formatted text. I'm not sure if anyone else notices it, but Wiki pages don't exactly load quickly, and I think the community should try to avoid excessive compartmentalization as much as possible. [[User:Jzanjani|Jzanjani]] 15:51, 5 October 2005 (EDT) | I think we should avoid splitting pages according to different series, especially when the amount of information we have on the subject is so sparse. All the information we have on Earth easily fits into one screen of properly formatted text. I'm not sure if anyone else notices it, but Wiki pages don't exactly load quickly, and I think the community should try to avoid excessive compartmentalization as much as possible. [[User:Jzanjani|Jzanjani]] 15:51, 5 October 2005 (EDT) | ||
*Abosolutely not. Wiki pages load perfectly fast on any computer I use; problem is on your end, not us. Purpose of this is not to worry about having to cut away information, but to upload as much as possible. Information should not be sacrificed for length. I mention splitting the two, because (had you not just recently arrived) you see we have quite recently been splitting the Galactica and Pegasus articles. If it were not for the fact that I don't know how to make a disambiguation page I already would have. ---[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]], October 5, 2005 | *Abosolutely not. Wiki pages load perfectly fast on any computer I use; problem is on your end, not us. Purpose of this is not to worry about having to cut away information, but to upload as much as possible. Information should not be sacrificed for length. I mention splitting the two, because (had you not just recently arrived) you see we have quite recently been splitting the Galactica and Pegasus articles. If it were not for the fact that I don't know how to make a disambiguation page I already would have. ---[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]], October 5, 2005 | ||
::The Galactica and Battlestar articles needed to be split because it was huge, and the Pegasus article went along with that. I'm less convinced about this page, which is quite concise. --[[User: | ::The Galactica and Battlestar articles needed to be split because it was huge, and the Pegasus article went along with that. I'm less convinced about this page, which is quite concise. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 17:33, 5 October 2005 (EDT) | ||
== The RDM Earth Picture? == | == The RDM Earth Picture? == | ||
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What can we learn from the picture of the RDM Earth? Can we tell anything about the current state of Earth? Is that Clouds or Snow? Is it a little too green for it to be the industrialized U.S. some of us live in now? Questions of that nature basically, I don't believe I'm smart enough to make any of those assumptions... | What can we learn from the picture of the RDM Earth? Can we tell anything about the current state of Earth? Is that Clouds or Snow? Is it a little too green for it to be the industrialized U.S. some of us live in now? Questions of that nature basically, I don't believe I'm smart enough to make any of those assumptions... | ||
:Nothing, really, and I think it was chosen to reveal nothing. All the land (except Hawai`i) is in daylight/sunset, so you can't easily look for lights. You can tell it's not the very distant past or future, ie. no ice age, major shifts of shoreline but that's about it. RDM has said he doesn't want to reveal much about the state of Earth, so don't expect anything.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 01:42, 28 March 2007 (CDT) | :Nothing, really, and I think it was chosen to reveal nothing. All the land (except Hawai`i) is in daylight/sunset, so you can't easily look for lights. You can tell it's not the very distant past or future, ie. no ice age, major shifts of shoreline but that's about it. RDM has said he doesn't want to reveal much about the state of Earth, so don't expect anything.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 01:42, 28 March 2007 (CDT) | ||
::Tectonic movement over the course of several hundred or maybe even thousands of years won't change the world very significantly. So it could be possible we Earthlings are already extinct when the RTF gets here. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:Gen00b|Gen00b]] 03:48, 28 March 2007 (CDT) | |||
:Louisiana holds the key. Examine the frame of Earth, and you will notice a crooked line running Northwest/Southeast across the state. This is the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_%28Mississippi_watershed%29 Red River]. If you examine the region in [http://www.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&z=7&ll=31.614796,-92.853699&spn=6.827183,10.283203&t=k&om=1 Google Earth], you will find the "line" is actually agriculture along the riverbank and not natural topography. While I'm sure native and pre-industrial Americans farmed the area, I don't think their efforts could be seen from high orbit. Therefore, I believe Earth is at least in the late 19th Century. --[[User:Astromav|Astromav]] 20:57, 28 March 2007 (CDT) | |||
==Split== | |||
As [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] has noted [[Battlestar Wiki talk:Think Tank/TOS Article Pips|elsewhere]], it's probably high time to split this (and other combined RDM / TOS article that warrant it) into separate articles, a la [[Earth (TOS)]] and [[Earth (RDM)]]. I'll try to get at this this weekend. [[User:JubalHarshaw|JubalHarshaw]] 13:29, 13 April 2007 (CDT) | |||
:I guess this would be more for a new policy page, but I have to say it would make editing so much easier if instead of having Page (RDM), Page (TOS) and Page for disambiguation, we just had Page (TOS) and Page with a link on Page to Page (TOS). The reality is that the vast majority of the reading and writing here is for (RDM) and most of us only care about (TOS) as a contrast.--[[User:Bradtem|Bradtem]] 19:22, 14 April 2007 (CDT) | |||
:: We've discussed this in the past, but what [[BW:SC#Disambiguation|we've done]] is basically used "Page" as a redirect to "Page (RDM)", which you can see in the case of ''[[Galactica]]'', which is a redirect to ''[[Galactica (RDM)]]''. To sum up the consensus of that discussion, it was decided to treat each series' articles the same, despite the preferences some may hold for RDM over TOS, and even vice versa. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:19, 14 April 2007 (CDT) |
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Concision
Jzanjani, your summary of events here is very well written, but I wonder if it's necessary to go into such detail on this article - the topic is Earth, not Roslin's various visions. Would you mind if I tried to make it a little more concise? --April Arcus 04:01, 5 October 2005 (EDT)
- I agree, this is on the Line. Further, this page should *definately* be turned into a disambiguation page and split into two separate ones: one for TOS Earth, one for RDM Earth. RDM's Earth could be entirely different from the old one. ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005
- Ricimer, I think I agree with your statement about colonial FTL drive, but I thought it would be prudent to point out that colonial sublight engines also run on Tylium - c.f. Apollo's ready room comments in "Resistance". --April Arcus 12:15, 5 October 2005 (EDT)
I think we should avoid splitting pages according to different series, especially when the amount of information we have on the subject is so sparse. All the information we have on Earth easily fits into one screen of properly formatted text. I'm not sure if anyone else notices it, but Wiki pages don't exactly load quickly, and I think the community should try to avoid excessive compartmentalization as much as possible. Jzanjani 15:51, 5 October 2005 (EDT)
- Abosolutely not. Wiki pages load perfectly fast on any computer I use; problem is on your end, not us. Purpose of this is not to worry about having to cut away information, but to upload as much as possible. Information should not be sacrificed for length. I mention splitting the two, because (had you not just recently arrived) you see we have quite recently been splitting the Galactica and Pegasus articles. If it were not for the fact that I don't know how to make a disambiguation page I already would have. ---Ricimer, October 5, 2005
- The Galactica and Battlestar articles needed to be split because it was huge, and the Pegasus article went along with that. I'm less convinced about this page, which is quite concise. --April Arcus 17:33, 5 October 2005 (EDT)
The RDM Earth Picture?
What can we learn from the picture of the RDM Earth? Can we tell anything about the current state of Earth? Is that Clouds or Snow? Is it a little too green for it to be the industrialized U.S. some of us live in now? Questions of that nature basically, I don't believe I'm smart enough to make any of those assumptions...
- Nothing, really, and I think it was chosen to reveal nothing. All the land (except Hawai`i) is in daylight/sunset, so you can't easily look for lights. You can tell it's not the very distant past or future, ie. no ice age, major shifts of shoreline but that's about it. RDM has said he doesn't want to reveal much about the state of Earth, so don't expect anything.--Bradtem 01:42, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
- Tectonic movement over the course of several hundred or maybe even thousands of years won't change the world very significantly. So it could be possible we Earthlings are already extinct when the RTF gets here. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. --Gen00b 03:48, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
- Louisiana holds the key. Examine the frame of Earth, and you will notice a crooked line running Northwest/Southeast across the state. This is the Red River. If you examine the region in Google Earth, you will find the "line" is actually agriculture along the riverbank and not natural topography. While I'm sure native and pre-industrial Americans farmed the area, I don't think their efforts could be seen from high orbit. Therefore, I believe Earth is at least in the late 19th Century. --Astromav 20:57, 28 March 2007 (CDT)
Split
As Spencerian has noted elsewhere, it's probably high time to split this (and other combined RDM / TOS article that warrant it) into separate articles, a la Earth (TOS) and Earth (RDM). I'll try to get at this this weekend. JubalHarshaw 13:29, 13 April 2007 (CDT)
- I guess this would be more for a new policy page, but I have to say it would make editing so much easier if instead of having Page (RDM), Page (TOS) and Page for disambiguation, we just had Page (TOS) and Page with a link on Page to Page (TOS). The reality is that the vast majority of the reading and writing here is for (RDM) and most of us only care about (TOS) as a contrast.--Bradtem 19:22, 14 April 2007 (CDT)
- We've discussed this in the past, but what we've done is basically used "Page" as a redirect to "Page (RDM)", which you can see in the case of Galactica, which is a redirect to Galactica (RDM). To sum up the consensus of that discussion, it was decided to treat each series' articles the same, despite the preferences some may hold for RDM over TOS, and even vice versa. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 20:19, 14 April 2007 (CDT)