Talk:A Day in the Life/Archive 1

Continuity

On 11 October, the Patriot Resource reported:

Adama and Caroline split after he received his first command. Lee indicates that she turned on him and Zak. Adama seems surprised, but Lee points out that Caroline was already pregnant with him when she and Adama got married. [This implies that they may not have married out of love and that she might blame Lee's conception for the unhappy marriage.]

If this report is correct, it contradicts what we have learned about William Adama's early years in the episodes "Act of Contrition" and "Scattered". To wit:

• Two women have been named as Adama's wife - Caroline Adama, in "Act of Contrition", identified as Lee and Zak's mother, and Anne Adama, in "Scattered", referred to as William's "new wife" in a flashback scene set 20 years prior to the series (and presuming Lee Adama is meant to be in his late 20s/early 30s, well after his birth).
• It is stated in "Scattered" that Adama still aspires to command of his own battlestar - he only achieved it during his second stint in the Colonial Fleet, with the help of Anne's father.
• This report, however, seems to indicate that William and Caroline were still together when Adama received his first command, and makes no mention of Anne.
• In a photograph featured prominently in several episodes, a William Adama much younger than the one seen in "Scattered" is featured with Lee and Zak, who are already preteens. This means that the "new wife" referred to in "Scattered" cannot be their mother under a different name.

Possible solutions:

• "Scattered" only stated that Adama had not yet commanded a battlestar - it is possible that the command assignment which caused his rift with Caroline (before his furlough, and the events of "Scattered") was a smaller ship.
• In "The Passage", Adama refers to Zak's mother as Carol-Anne, suggesting that they could be one and the same. The more detailed timeline glimpsed in "Hero" allows for Adama to have met Lee's mother in time to still be a young fighter pilot by the time Lee was in late childhood.

--April Arcus 17:51, 18 January 2007 (CST)

I'm pretty sure Adama called her Caroline (her name) and not Carol-Anne. --Meteor 25 January 2007.

She's pretty clearly called Carolanne in this episode, adding weight to the idea that Adama was only married once (as does the theory put forth in the episode that admitting he and Carolanne were wrong for each other would call his other decisions into question, as remarrying would qualify as an admission that they were wrong for each other). The reason he looks older in Scattered than in the picture is that was played by EJO for those scenes. -- Noneofyourbusiness 10:17, 19 February 2007 (CST)

I'm hearing "Carol-Anne" also, especially in the bonus podcast. Shame about the continuity problem of the way Adama looks. Amos frans 18:38, 20 February 2007 (CST)

Considering the information from Adama's bio that was provided to the Pressident when she first came aboard Galactica, it's likely that Adama's first command (as mentioned above) isn't that of a ship--but instead of a viper squadron. That might even explain the photo of Lee and Zak and their father infront of the Viper--taken when Adama received command of Primus Squadron? In the modern US Navy, Carrier commanders must have been naval aviators and commanded a squadron prior to receiving a carrier CO slot--the Colonials may not be that different, considering a Battlestar is esentially a giant carrier in space. --Whyte Wolf 14:46, 19 November 2006 (CST)

Good point there, that is always a possibility. Actually, in the USN, only one of the two top commanders (CO or XO) on carriers and Amphibious Assault Ships like the Wasp needs to have been an aviator. It's rare but there have been surface warfare officers commanding carriers. --Talos 16:30, 19 November 2006 (CST)

Image

Can we change the pic to one of them from here? http://pics.livejournal.com/drewcypher/gallery/000a5yrp --lordmutt 12:02, 18 January 2007 (CST)

Of course. --April Arcus 16:35, 18 January 2007 (CST)

I suggest the one with Adama and Wife. :-) Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 16:40, 18 January 2007 (CST)

I also like that one. --April Arcus 16:52, 18 January 2007 (CST)

Added Jxh487 17:23, 18 January 2007 (CST)

But why adding in such large resolution? -- Spike 17:38, 18 January 2007 (CST)

I've re-uploaded using the original file. Not a resize. the reason is because the height is too large. --Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 18:36, 18 January 2007 (CST)

Character Spoiler Hint

I'm going to mask this text to keep from spoiling out of courtesy, although talk pages are generally not required to have spoilers masked. (Be sure to mask out your responses to this if you use character names or you'll spoil the possible surprise.)

This link (click here) from the venerable promo shot web site (I'd like to know their source) shows Cally Tyrol and her husband in some incident where respirators are needed. A later shot shows Cally in what appears to be a hyperbaric chamber, with Tyrol holding his infant son by the chamber. Is Cally, sadly, fated to die in this episode? It would fit the family unit images of Adama and his first wife and the problems they had, and parallels what may befall the new father Tyrol. Remember to be courteous and try not to use the character's names in any replies unless you use {{spoiltext}} to mask them out. --Spencerian 15:18, 1 February 2007 (CST)

Oh, I think I'm going to be wrong. The promo pics from a later episode appear to say nada to my thought. --Spencerian 15:05, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Predictions!

I'm back yet again with more skull-shatteringly accurate episode predictions! It's gonna be a busy episode, full of chills and thrills! I'll dive right in:

• Tigh and Bill engage in mutual ball-busting over their obsessions with their dead wives.

• Saul/Bill OTP ensues.

• Apollo whines about stuff.
• Tyrol and Cally resolve their recent differences.
• Tyrol and Cally die.
• Sharon cheats on Helo.

• With Caprica Six.

• Helo cheats on Sharon.

• With Mrs. King.

• Gaeta says something bitter.
• Gaeta dies.
• Galvatron arrives on Colonial One with an interesting offer for Zarek: If Zarek will help him obtain the Adamabot Matrix of Leadership, Galvatron will make him his second-in-command.
• Phantom Baltar and Phantom Six get it on. Violently.
• The SuicideGirls join the regular cast as a squad of hot new Viper jocks. Apparently, piercings don't get ripped away by intense G-forces.

As always, you can place your bets (in cubits, please) on my or Bruzer's User Talk pages. --Slander 14:56, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Oh, and I thought you didn't add Galvatron to the prediction at first. I was worried. --Spencerian 15:06, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Everyone knows that piercings help hold everything together in intense G-force situations. If the suicide girls suicide girls get thawed out and defect to the fleet, I'm guessing that Simon Simon's going to be responsible. -- Gordon Ecker 19:18, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Wow. William and Caroline Adama are Cylons. And I didn't think they could pull off Galvatron in CGI, but they did it. -- Gordon Ecker 22:22, 18 February 2007 (CST)

Explosive Decompression

The current entry says it's only possible to survive for 10-20 seconds in a vacuum, but I found a website with very good sources that indicates it is in fact possible to survive for up to two minutes. Granted, there have been very few cases of human exposure, but the ones that have occured seem to indicate that you could survive for as long as the Tyrols did. You would, however, lose consciousness after only 10-15 seconds. The URL is: http://www.sff.net/people/Geoffrey.Landis/vacuum.html

--Dallan007 23:22, 19 February 2007 (CST)

At least their eyeballs didn't explode, like Jack Noseworthy in Event Horizon. --Slander 13:13, 23 February 2007 (CST)

That's actually the site I read too a while ago. But I misremembered some of the facts. Thanks of the correction. The depiction in BSG was fairly accurate. Note that the time spent in real vacuum wasn't very long at all. They still had an atmosphere to breath before they blew the outer door, and they wore oxygen masks. --Serenity 13:26, 23 February 2007 (CST)

I don't understand why Cali has to be in a hyperbaric chamber. The analogy they are trying to make is that decompression is like nitrogen narcosis, or "the bends," which happens when you go from deep water depth to the surface too fast. Cali and the Chief went from room pressure to space, so shouldn't getting Cali back to room pressure be enough? (i.e., room pressure is the same as "the deep" in this analogy.)--Tofupup 21:36, 25 February 2007 (CST)

I'm pretty sure that the site I was looking at said that nitrogen narcosis can also result from decompression. Dallan007 01:15, 8 March 2007 (CST)

Bonus Scene Comments

I thought the bonus scene was very appropriate and should have been part of the aired episode. It was a great belly laugh amidst all the angst. Dualla's "eww!" expression was quite amusing, and Gaeta continues to break out of his shell when we get to see him in conversation. I only hope the whole Roslin/Adama thing does not become a shark jumping moment for the show; there are more important things to play with, despite my happiness of exploring it a bit. --Spencerian 07:56, 20 February 2007 (CST)

Well it was about time they played that scene, since the tension has been there for a long time, especially since Resurrection Ship, Part II. --Catrope 10:50, 20 February 2007 (CST)

A couple of errors

I believe this is how I'm supposed to do this kind of thing... This is my first time working on a wiki, so forgive me for any mistakes, but there are actually a couple of errors for this episode.

In the Act 2 summary, Cally doesn't actually say "Susan Deckler." She says "Susan Seklir," which is a reference to Andy Seklir, one of the editors on the show. It's kinda hard to hear because of how Nikki delivers the dialogue. I guess usually this would be a minor edit, but because of the link involved, I'm kinda leery of changing it since my wikiskills are nonexistent.

In the Notes, there's no reference to the movie Kinsey, as far as I know. Adama does not say "Neeson." He says "Leeson," which doesn't mean anything, but "Kinsey" is "Kinzy," which is actually a reference to Tim Kinzy, one of the assistant editors on the show. So I would change the Kinsey reference to one referring to Tim. --Mmm...toasty 13:39, 30 November 2007 (CST)

I can confirm that. No idea how people got those names. They are rather clear, except for the exact spelling. We actually have an article on Andrew Seklir and Leeson is used elsewhere too. --Serenity 13:56, 30 November 2007 (CST)

Nice catch by the way! --OrionFour 14:01, 30 November 2007 (CST)

Thanks! Although, it is part of my job ;). We were kinda laughing about this one in the office. Overall, though, we find the wiki a very comprehensive and useful resource, so thank you for creating and maintaining it. Most of the errors I've seen have been minor, and I might try my hand at fixing them as I come across them. I do want to add a fun trivia note involving this episode. --Mmm...toasty 15:37, 30 November 2007 (CST)

Sure, go ahead. As for errors, there are some annoying ones here and there. The project has become rather large, so something can easily slip through the cracks. And personally, I sometimes don't read everything in its entirety, but stick to certain sections. Or I simply don't have time to check every note and reference if it's not obviously wrong. --Serenity 16:14, 30 November 2007 (CST)

Kevin Grazier comments

Kevin Grazier moved his Tech Blog to a new site and answers some questions about this episode.

It really surprises me that apparently so many people complained about it. Fans will naturally whine a lot, but it was always obvious that this is a very accurate depiction of vacuum exposure. I like it a lot. I agree with Grazier that 50 years of pulp sci-fi has certainly introduced a lot of nonsensical perceptions and assumptions about it. I researched it before, and knew that people don't instantly freeze or explode.

Anyways, he also mentions BSWiki towards the end of the first page, though he mis-attributes the episode. We should probably correct that (could be deleted entirely then) and also link to his comments. But should we do that right now, since that might appear as if he misquoted us? --Serenity 17:31, 13 December 2007 (CST)

Spence has his contact info, so if we need to, we can shoot him an e-mail offering a correction. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 17:53, 13 December 2007 (CST)

We can do that, but I meant mainly we should do with the wrong info in our article. Of course we could correct it now, but if people go here from Grazier's site, they might be confused to not find that quotes line. --Serenity 02:59, 14 December 2007 (CST)

I'd be happy to share Dr. Grazier's contact info, which is specifically for BSG questions. I'll leave it on the private admin area on the Forum later. Dr. Grazier, party animal. I can vouch for that. With Aaron D. right behind him on night 1 of D.C., it was a headrush to have both there at once. I'm not surprised about the complaints. Many people subscribe to something that we, on a wiki, are well aware of avoiding: just because you see it said or printed or done in a book or movie does not infer its factuality or authority. As Grazier said, there are too many kids watching "Outland." :) --Spencerian 11:43, 14 December 2007 (CST)