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== An old question about hits counter from Enabran ==


Hi Joe,<br/>[[user:Enabran|Enabran]] asked some time ago if it is possible to retrieve the hits counter. I tried to install a stable version of [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:HitCounters Extension:HitCounters] on the [[:fr:|French wiki]]. It seems to work. You'll need to run an <tt>maintenance/update.php</tt> after installing the extension with the following in the <tt>LocalSettings.php</tt> file


== Favicon ==
wfLoadExtension( 'HitCounters' );


Joe... I'm not sure when you did it, but the new favicon appears... garbled in my Firefox. I think it's because of the image scaling. I'm guessing that it's just the logo shrunk down way. Personally, I think such a small picture should be MUCH simpler. Just thought I'd weigh in on that. I'm not demanding a change or anything, just piping up. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]])</sup> 00:27, 14 May 2006 (CDT)
It should keep the old values. As you wish, but I think there will be a happy, happy editor ;-) Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 13:57, 3 June 2020 (PDT)


: I will look into it! Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:20, 4 June 2020 (PDT)


==Email Validation (2)==
:: I can see the hit counter back on the french wiki - can someone please add it to the german wiki? [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 14:23, 14 November 2020 (PST)
Earlier i posted to your [[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.#Email validation|talk page about the problems]] I was having with email validation. Well I kinda forgot about it for a while but the issue has cropped up again now I am an administrator of thw wiki. I posted more details about it to the [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard#Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admins noticeboard]]. The email address that i am trying to validate is '''mattsims'''''@evilmerc.com'' Cheers --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 15:08, 1 July 2006 (CDT)
:Maybe some experimentation could be done over at the hangarbay to try to troubleshoot this? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:19, 6 July 2006 (CDT)
::I didnt get an email from the hangarbay wiki either. Possibly a problem with the way its set up on the server? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 07:51, 10 July 2006 (CDT)


== Subpages + Bot ==
:: Installed. Unfortunately, it didn't retain the old numbers, and there was no way to recover those. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 16:21, 2 January 2021 (PST)


Well.. I noticed something. Subpages for the '''User''', '''Battlestar Wiki talk''', and possaible some other namespaces. Maybe just turn them all on so it works as used. See [[Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp]] and [[Battlestar Wiki:Sandbox/Temp/Temp1]] for examples. I can also work on the task bot if Perl is complied into PHP. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:15, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
::: oh, thank you! Any number is better than no number ;-) [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 00:51, 3 January 2021 (PST)
:The bot might be ready to run again. I uploaded a whole bunch of fixes to the file. Post any errors to my email. Run it using <tt>perl taskbot.pl OPENTASK_UPDATE</tt> --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 13:21, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
:::: There is one way: Hit the refresh button x times to gain x counters :-D [[User:Enabran|Enabran]] ([[User talk:Enabran|talk]]) 01:00, 3 January 2021 (PST)
:No idea where to put this, but maybe the <tt>trusted</tt> group could get Patrol status. Patrol is just something to watch mark changes that they were seen. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:00, 27 July 2006 (CDT)
::::: Or by incrementing the number in <tt>page_counter.sql</tt> table in the DB directly -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
::'''UPDATE''': http://www.battlestarwiki.org/en/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidebots=0 - Bot is working. :) Now it just needs to be added to the cron to run every 4 or 6 hours.
:::::: Hit counters are, in general, worthless data point generators anyway as they cannot be individually identified and categorized. They're very, well, "Web 1.0" and beyond obsolete. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Joe, can you try running the bot. Wondering if you get the same error I get. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:27, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
: Sure. Testing now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:54, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
::Just for the sake, I don't think it will work. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:58, 11 August 2006 (CDT)
:::I can't do it right now for some reason anyway... Odd. I'll look into it after I get some things out of the way. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:07, 11 August 2006 (CDT)


== Setting up a mirror ==
== TOS/G80 unproduced scripts ==


MediaBlvd would like to offer up some of our server space and bandwidth as a mirror, if that would be useful.  Great job here, all involved.
Greetings fellow Colonial!


[[User:NetRanger|NetRanger]] 22:38, 31 July 2006 (CDT)
I'm interested in assisting in regards to the summary pages of unproduced scripts of the 1978 series and its follow-up in 1980, but there are a few problems in this regard. First, it appears the wiki hasn't been updated in quite some time regarding these scripts (so I'm unsure if this is an active project or not). Second, the link to the Battlestar Pegasus page is dead. I have a few scripts printed out from the '78 series a few years ago, but I'd need access to the other scripts (especially The Beta Pirates, which I've wanted to read for many yahrens). Is this wiki still active, and can I assist? {{unsigned|Ninth Lord of Kobol}}
: Thanks for the offer! I'll try to get in contact with you in the next few days to iron out details. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 09:30, 4 August 2006 (CDT)
: Side note... we should really setup this also joe.


* www.battlestar.org (Splash Page)
: Hello! Yes, the wiki is still somewhat active. I mostly maintain the English one at this point, with assistance of two other admins: [[User:Enabran]] of the [[:de:|German language Wiki]] and [[User:LIMAFOX76]] of the [[:fr:|French language Wiki]].  


* en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (english)
: As to the scripts, I have digitized PDF copies of the ones I've collected over the yahrens. I just need to re-upload them again (I'll upload them to the Wiki directly and update the links to the specific episodes). I'll start with "[[The Beta Pirates]]" and go from there. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
* de.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (german)
* es.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (spanish)
* hb.battlestarwiki.org/wiki (Test Wiki)


* media-0.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Our Inital Media Resository)
== Battlestar Wiki's new skin ==
** Interactive Files (Images)
* media-1.battlestar.org/wiki (Media File Repository; Could Be Net Ranger's Server, but out link)
** Interactive Files (Video, Sound, and Images)


...and all sharing the same user databases.... so we didn't have to create usersnames for everyone. We move all the images to the File Repositories. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:52, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
Hi Joe,<br/>I hope you're well. I discovered the new skin you implanted for BW. Is that normal if everything is still in a white background even if you modified the css page to adapt? Thanks for your answer. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 06:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)


== Good News/Bad News ==
: Howdy! Things are OK -- I hope things are good for you! For the background, it is adaptable, and there are three options if you click on the wheel/gear icon on the upper menu bar: Auto, Light and Dark. You might be on "light" or "auto," so if you click on Dark you should get the "darker" red theme.


Doing some work on the [[MediaWiki talk:Edittools]] markup, I was trying to figure out why the markup was always driving us crazy. It was because of the current skin js code. So let me break this down more...
: I'm trying to figure out what to do for the "light" theme (so I've left it alone for now), and might try something that invokes the cream/light brown paperwork from the series.  
* Good News: The javascript code barily works with 1.7.1
* Bad News: For it to get fully working correctly, one of the classic skins needs to be enabled.


So... I'm a digging in the hangerbay and working on my CSS code and update the Hangerbay with 1.7.1 and also fix up my two skins with the new javascript. That's about it. :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 14:32, 3 August 2006 (CDT)
: I'm tweaking the theme as I go as well, so if you have any thoughts or suggestions, let me know. Cheers! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 23:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
:Also need a quick run on the <code>maintenance/update.php</code> on the hangerbay so it's to date with 1.7.1
:: Things are good for me as well, thanks! Regarding the skin, I chose the Dark theme, yet it is still white. Did I miss something in my parameters??
::'''Update''': I did a manuall update. No worries now. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:34, 5 August 2006 (CDT)
:: Small update, it seems that the dark and light themes are linked to the browser main color theme. I managed to change it in Edge and Firefox but I had to purge the cache. If I switch the browsers' theme back to light, it comes back to the light mode. --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 20:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)


==Domain Registrar==
::: I loved the old cream-coloured theme developed by Paul Gu. I don't think that theme would work in the current versions of Media Wiki, though. But if you have the CSS of that light theme, maybe we can use the same colours in the current Citizen based theme? -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
The domain registrar I use is [http://www.namecheap.com www.namecheap.com] and it $8.88 per domain per year. You can also pay via paypal. I am still in discussions with some people about hosting but I think that I can definitly save the wiki hundreds off the bill. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 02:45, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
: For the "light" version, I was aiming towards the cream color, to mimic the paperwork in the series. We had something like that for the "Case Orange" update blog back in the day. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
: Awesome. As they say, a penny saved is a penny earned, and all that... :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 02:51, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:: Doubt they came up with that saying. :D --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 02:52, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::: Well, we don't know who exactly "they" are... "they" can be anybody. LOL -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:01, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Who is this "they", it seems "they" make all the decisions in the world and watch over us in a 1984 esqe secret society. I'm scared :( --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:32, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
:::::Actually, thought Ben Franklin came up with that. Is he watching is ;-)? --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 07:48, 14 August 2006 (CDT)


== [[State of the Wiki II]] ==
== SSL certificates ==


I wrote an update. It's so ugly and disasterous that I protected it, made it a silly page, and desperately ask other admins to help in making it usable. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 22:14, 14 August 2006 (CDT)
Hi Joe,<br/>Hope you're fine. There is an issue with the SSL certificates on all Battlestar wikis and Buck Wiki. It says that they are not valid anymore and block the page's loading. Is it possible to update the certificates so no warning message appears ? Thank you very much. Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 10:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
: LOL. Thanks! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:59, 15 August 2006 (CDT)


== DNS Prob ==
: This is remedied now. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:58, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


Did you contact 1and1? It's gotta be a DNS problem that not working. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:04, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
Hi Joe,<br />The SSL certificates have expired again, preventing images from loading on all pages. Sorry to bring bad news as a greeting! I really love this site, so, thank you for creating and maintaining it. I hope you are doing well! --[[User:Allatariel|Allatariel]] ([[User talk:Allatariel|talk]]) 15:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
: I'll contact them (AceWebHosting) tonight. Been running around like a chicken with its head cut off for the past two days. lol -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:07, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
: Greetings! They've just been renewed, and I'm working on some server updates to boot. Hope you are doing well too, and thank you for your support! :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
:: I know how you feel. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:22, 15 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Updates? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:02, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
::::They said that it "is because your DNS zone is hosted on our name servers and when you add subdomains, those subdomain cannot be added to our nameservers. We've configured your DNS zone to resolve all subdomains to [IP address], it should fix this problem." So hopefully once everything propagates, it should work. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:39, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
:::::Interesting. I would think that would happen by default. lol. Ok... I will keep checking the subdomain. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:56, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
::::::Yes. But I don't think it's working though... I'll contact them again. Perhaps it's something else... Sigh. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:51, 16 August 2006 (CDT)
:::Working. 500server error... it might be the .htaccess file so delete it once you get a chance. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:31, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Yes, I just woke up from my nap. Anyway, I fixed what happened. Apparently, it had to do with the nameservers I was using; I was using 1and1s nameservers (because I host my domains through 1and1, not AceWebHosting, which hosts BSG Wiki) and had to create a Glue Domain using the nameservers ns1.battlestarwiki.org and ns2.battlestarwiki.org. Fortunatley, it now works and I just have to go through .htaccess and see what's up. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 14:56, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


== Rewrite Rule ==
:: FYI. The mobile version is showing some insecure content warnings. -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC)


http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/misc/rewriteguide.html - From Our Wikipedia Vandalism Squad --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 19:56, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
::: Interesting. Anything specific so I can try to replicate to remedy? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
:<code>RewriteRule ^wiki/?(.*)$ /mediawiki/index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]</code> was right. We forgot to restart Apache. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:28, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
::Bah, I knew I forgot something. I ''now'' remember doing this when I set up the other language wikis. Frak me. I'll get to it tomorrow. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:53, 18 August 2006 (CDT)
:::My sources say that a reboot is not needed. That rewrite rule is for in the media folder itself. I had and idea of <code>RewriteRule ^wiki/?(.*)$ ../mediawiki/index.php?title=$1 [L,QSA]</code> also on the <code>WWW</code>. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:02, 18 August 2006 (CDT)


== "Style" ==
== Images ==


I see that it is working now! What did you to fix it? Anyway, I sent you a quick update the LocalSettings.php file and the ZIP file containing the "hangerbay" style sheets. Follow the instructions in the email and everything should be set. Right now the skin that it set to is not found so I have no idea how you want to proceed. If you send me the style files for this style we are using now, I can edit the CSS file so everything can be unified and done only by CSS. It's both the "MediaWiki" color version and our colors version. Next time we are online. I guess we can work on transferring the images. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 17:11, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
I can't see any images on the website.  
: I restarted the server. I also had to remove the redirect rules in .htaccess, since they didn't work anyway. Other than that, everything looks good. I figure the best way to move all the images would be to just copy the pertinent tables from the en-wiki database and the corresponding image directories. Then we should be good. (Also, I've found out that unifying the username databases is next to impossible under the current MediaWiki software, which is why all the Wikipedia sites don't have a unifying logon yet.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:35, 19 August 2006 (CDT)
: I also didn't get the files yet, either. Then again, I can always just copy the style files from the hangarbay. (I'll also be sending along the CSS the current scheme to you shortly.) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:36, 19 August 2006 (CDT)


== As of right now... ==
: This is remedied now. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:57, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


I got everything work. Images, Descriptions, etc. I'm on GTalk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:55, 20 August 2006 (CDT)
== Caprica fonts on German site ==


== Problems.. ==
Hi Joe,<br/>I hope you're fine. Is it possible please to add the two "Caprica" fonts on the German wiki root directory? It is already configured to have them, so it will appears as soon you import them. Thanks a lot! Cheers! --[[User:LIMAFOX76|LIMAFOX76]] ([[User talk:LIMAFOX76|talk]]) 20:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
: Will do! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 02:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)


On the Babylon 5 Wiki? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:14, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
== Old WikiFrakr content and other language wikis ==
: Yes. It's just really stagnant and The Great Machine is still using the 1.3.x series Mediawiki software. I recommended that they upgrade, but they didn't. Also, as was mentioned, it's not really well organized and B5 fans would be better off, in my opinon, with a wikified version of the Lurker's Guide. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:24, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
:: Yikes! 1.3.x. I go nutz. What lience do they use ebcause if it's it's open source... and you start your own wiki, which I might see in a few mintues "http://www.battlestarwiki.org/babylon5wiki/", use their content information. I'll help ya design it, but I have no skilz what so ever on Babylon 5. Never touched or watched the stuff. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:32, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
::: Well, you won't see it in a few minutes... I'm focusing my attention on the BSG stuff right now. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:47, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
::::Course. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:48, 22 August 2006 (CDT)


== Ping! ==
WiiFrakr had some fantastic and hilarious content back in the day. Sadly this was lost in time. Is there a way to restore those pages back if a backup is available? Maybe instead of a separate sub-wiki, those pages can live under a namespace on the English Wiki.
 
Similarly, the other language wikis which existed are lost. Is it possible to restore them too? -- [[User:CylonU87|CylonU87]] <sup>[[User talk:CylonU87|I don't feel like a copy.]]</sup> 20:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
Pong! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:41, 22 August 2006 (CDT)
: I believe a backup is available, but I haven't gotten to it, as I haven't prioritized it. As to the other language wikis, I don't believe there was much in the way of content, beyond the German and French versions that were restored. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 03:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
 
== ?? ==
 
<code>
Fatal error: Call to undefined method Title::isImagePage() in /home/admin/domains/battlestarwiki.org/w/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 728
</code>
 
which I try to browse a category of images. Update a skin? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 19:44, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
 
: Actually, I was updating it so as to add tabs to the image description pages on media. [[md:Image:Anders.jpg|For example...]] The purpose is to link back to the image pages on the indivual language wikis, so the people can easily find out from ''their own'' description page as to whether or not the image is being used on their wiki. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 19:51, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
 
::Good idea. :-) Can you transfer the extensions installed in a zip to my email. the svn. site of mediawiki is down and I can not download them. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:10, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
 
::: Not really an extension. Just merely some additions to SkinTemplate.php, which I'll send your way as soon as I can. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:18, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
::::no no... I'll take that as well, but I ment the files in the /extensions/ directory as well. cite.php and the like. The same ones used here so I can keep the HB the same way. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:23, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
 
:::::Ah, ok. Thought you were speaking of the additions I had made to create the language tabs. Will do. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:26, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Curriosity Question ==
 
Do you know how to use a SVN/CVS? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:35, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
: Been around a few. Can't say I use them all that much though. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:38, 25 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Donate ==
 
Sent you a small donation; will send you annother when i have more cash :-) [[User:MatthewFenton|MatthewFenton]] 02:34, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
: Thank you for your donation, Matthew. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 08:46, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Back to 100%? ==
 
I noticed that you have been around more, are you back to 100% and has work calm down. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 20:20, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
: Hi Frankie. Thanks for asking! I'm back to 100% again. Work's calm down for now, but the holidays are coming up, so I know that within a few weeks I'll start getting busier. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:26, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Wikibits.js and CSS ==
 
I just checked my javascirpt console. I am working on the problem. The CSS seems also to have some unneeded values. I will work on this for XHTML reasons, but not a major concern. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:33, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
:In wiki bits find <code>addLoadEvent(createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code> and change it to <code>addOnloadHook(createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code>. That should fix the problem. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:50, 26 August 2006 (CDT)
::Grrr... my user test page still not working. Try chaging... <code>addOnloadHook(createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code> to <code>hookEvent("load", createNavigationBarToggleButton);</code>. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 05:53, 28 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Vero ==
 
Where is "Vero" located from the strom impact area? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:47, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
ok.. nvm.
 
http://www.baseballfantasycamps.com/images/florida.vero.beach.jpg
 
That near the shuttle area. The shuttle is going back to the pad. It might be a taf stronger where you are. Do you watch the shuttle on liftoff time... if you can? --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 15:48, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
 
: I try. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:51, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
:: Sweet. Space at it sickest! :) I would love to take the Commanders seat of the shuttle. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:01, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Vero, we have a problem! ==
 
I'm online so I can be contacted on GTalk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:13, 29 August 2006 (CDT)
:Part II. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:23, 30 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== Frappr! ==
 
Can you delete my entry on the frappr group. I want to update it, but I don;t have the email address anymore asscoiated with the account. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:19, 31 August 2006 (CDT)
 
== User Login on german page does not work ==
 
Hello,
 
I can login here on the english page, but not on the german. Allthough my userpage "Tirkon" is there, the system says on "login" or "send me an e-mail", that there is no user "Tirkon". Could you please check this? Thank you. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 20:38, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:Tirkon, you have to re-register since the database are now seperated. Sign up under the same name and I will transfer all your old edits to your new "userid" number so you still have them. I am on the German Wiki also, [[:de:User:Shane|here]]. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 20:41, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:: Follow Shane's advice. :-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:42, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::: Thank you. I have done the sign up. - Further question: Is it possible, that you send me this picture "Image:BSG_WIKI_SM.png" by mail. I want to use it in my german Wikipedia Account. I hope, I have your allowance. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:03, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::I think we decided on the Big W to not use that image because it's copyrighted style of BSG in the first place. [[Wikipedia:Template:User Battlestar Wiki|Template:User Battlestar Wiki]] is what we use for Userboxs. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:08, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::Thank you once more. I do not know, how to change it that way, that it links to the german Battlestar Wiki. Could you please change it for me?  -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:25, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::The "Interwiki" admins have yet to change the system so it can work for cross lanagues. I will try to get back in touch with them to see what is going on. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:30, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::Possibly this will not work. I had trouble with the german administrators concerning this template. They do only want it on the my User-Page. There is a rule: It is not allowed, to have it as a public template on german wikipedia. Thus possibly the interwiki templates will not work there-- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 21:45, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::::the Interwiki maps are global though out the wiki- global sites. The german admins have no clue. I talk to the sysops of the foundation and they said interwiki link will be updated in the next few day. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:50, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::::::O.K. Thanks for the informations. The template link did still not work. But in the meanwhile I have changed the link of the template as an internet link. And now it works. -- [[User:Tirkon|Tirkon]] 22:16, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::::::I'll check it in a few days to see if they fixed the interwiki link database and update it back to the correct one. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 22:19, 1 September 2006 (CDT)
 
== Around? ==
 
Posted a possaible solution to the problem on your media talk page. It might be the fact that the server is not configured for SVG. Because when I view an SVG file on Wikipedia, it creates the image. http://media.battlestarwiki.org/images/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg (shows the code) v. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg (shows the flag) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:14, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
:GOT IT! http://hb.battlestarwiki.org/w/images/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg Yeah. Follow the stuff on the webpage I did on your media talk page. You will have to restart the server for it to work on all the servers. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:30, 4 September 2006 (CDT)
 
== Sup? ==
 
You around? :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 18:29, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
: Sorta. Sorta not. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 18:32, 5 September 2006 (CDT)
 
== DragonCon 2006 Report ==
 
...is up on my talk page. Might be something worth noting to the contributors at large. Sorry for the bad photos...I wish I had my better camera. Hopefully the participants there can send us better versions sometime. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 09:42, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
:We could could go low-key with a note in "news" or "community portal" (on the Community bulletin board), or we could hit a bigger audience with the sitenotice. I'm not sure how much traffic the news and community sections really get. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:00, 6 September 2006 (CDT)
 
== Online ==
 
You sacked out or you around? I'm on GTalk. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:46, 10 September 2006 (CDT)
:Pong :-) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 16:16, 10 September 2006 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 21:31, 4 July 2023


An old question about hits counter from Enabran

Hi Joe,
Enabran asked some time ago if it is possible to retrieve the hits counter. I tried to install a stable version of Extension:HitCounters on the French wiki. It seems to work. You'll need to run an maintenance/update.php after installing the extension with the following in the LocalSettings.php file

wfLoadExtension( 'HitCounters' );

It should keep the old values. As you wish, but I think there will be a happy, happy editor ;-) Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 13:57, 3 June 2020 (PDT)

I will look into it! Thanks! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 11:20, 4 June 2020 (PDT)
I can see the hit counter back on the french wiki - can someone please add it to the german wiki? Enabran (talk) 14:23, 14 November 2020 (PST)
Installed. Unfortunately, it didn't retain the old numbers, and there was no way to recover those. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 16:21, 2 January 2021 (PST)
oh, thank you! Any number is better than no number ;-) Enabran (talk) 00:51, 3 January 2021 (PST)
There is one way: Hit the refresh button x times to gain x counters :-D Enabran (talk) 01:00, 3 January 2021 (PST)
Or by incrementing the number in page_counter.sql table in the DB directly -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:42, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hit counters are, in general, worthless data point generators anyway as they cannot be individually identified and categorized. They're very, well, "Web 1.0" and beyond obsolete. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 21:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

TOS/G80 unproduced scripts

Greetings fellow Colonial!

I'm interested in assisting in regards to the summary pages of unproduced scripts of the 1978 series and its follow-up in 1980, but there are a few problems in this regard. First, it appears the wiki hasn't been updated in quite some time regarding these scripts (so I'm unsure if this is an active project or not). Second, the link to the Battlestar Pegasus page is dead. I have a few scripts printed out from the '78 series a few years ago, but I'd need access to the other scripts (especially The Beta Pirates, which I've wanted to read for many yahrens). Is this wiki still active, and can I assist? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ninth Lord of Kobol (talk • contribs).

Hello! Yes, the wiki is still somewhat active. I mostly maintain the English one at this point, with assistance of two other admins: User:Enabran of the German language Wiki and User:LIMAFOX76 of the French language Wiki.
As to the scripts, I have digitized PDF copies of the ones I've collected over the yahrens. I just need to re-upload them again (I'll upload them to the Wiki directly and update the links to the specific episodes). I'll start with "The Beta Pirates" and go from there. :-) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 14:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)Reply

Battlestar Wiki's new skin

Hi Joe,
I hope you're well. I discovered the new skin you implanted for BW. Is that normal if everything is still in a white background even if you modified the css page to adapt? Thanks for your answer. Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 06:24, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Howdy! Things are OK -- I hope things are good for you! For the background, it is adaptable, and there are three options if you click on the wheel/gear icon on the upper menu bar: Auto, Light and Dark. You might be on "light" or "auto," so if you click on Dark you should get the "darker" red theme.
I'm trying to figure out what to do for the "light" theme (so I've left it alone for now), and might try something that invokes the cream/light brown paperwork from the series.
I'm tweaking the theme as I go as well, so if you have any thoughts or suggestions, let me know. Cheers! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 23:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
Things are good for me as well, thanks! Regarding the skin, I chose the Dark theme, yet it is still white. Did I miss something in my parameters??
Small update, it seems that the dark and light themes are linked to the browser main color theme. I managed to change it in Edge and Firefox but I had to purge the cache. If I switch the browsers' theme back to light, it comes back to the light mode. --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 20:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
I loved the old cream-coloured theme developed by Paul Gu. I don't think that theme would work in the current versions of Media Wiki, though. But if you have the CSS of that light theme, maybe we can use the same colours in the current Citizen based theme? -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:28, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
For the "light" version, I was aiming towards the cream color, to mimic the paperwork in the series. We had something like that for the "Case Orange" update blog back in the day. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

SSL certificates

Hi Joe,
Hope you're fine. There is an issue with the SSL certificates on all Battlestar wikis and Buck Wiki. It says that they are not valid anymore and block the page's loading. Is it possible to update the certificates so no warning message appears ? Thank you very much. Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 10:23, 20 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

This is remedied now. Thank you! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:58, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi Joe,
The SSL certificates have expired again, preventing images from loading on all pages. Sorry to bring bad news as a greeting! I really love this site, so, thank you for creating and maintaining it. I hope you are doing well! --Allatariel (talk) 15:48, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply

Greetings! They've just been renewed, and I'm working on some server updates to boot. Hope you are doing well too, and thank you for your support! :-) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 17:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
FYI. The mobile version is showing some insecure content warnings. -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:35, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Interesting. Anything specific so I can try to replicate to remedy? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:44, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Images

I can't see any images on the website.

This is remedied now. Thank you! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:57, 24 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Caprica fonts on German site

Hi Joe,
I hope you're fine. Is it possible please to add the two "Caprica" fonts on the German wiki root directory? It is already configured to have them, so it will appears as soon you import them. Thanks a lot! Cheers! --LIMAFOX76 (talk) 20:52, 26 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Will do! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 02:25, 27 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Old WikiFrakr content and other language wikis

WiiFrakr had some fantastic and hilarious content back in the day. Sadly this was lost in time. Is there a way to restore those pages back if a backup is available? Maybe instead of a separate sub-wiki, those pages can live under a namespace on the English Wiki. Similarly, the other language wikis which existed are lost. Is it possible to restore them too? -- CylonU87 I don't feel like a copy. 20:39, 3 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I believe a backup is available, but I haven't gotten to it, as I haven't prioritized it. As to the other language wikis, I don't believe there was much in the way of content, beyond the German and French versions that were restored. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 03:42, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply