MediaWiki talk:Edittools: Difference between revisions

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<div style="clear:both;"></div>

One of the tags I use most. Wouldn't it be useful to have it in the edittools box? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 12:01, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Sure. It's now added. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 12:32, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 12:35, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Woo! I could never remember how to use that one, and always had to copypaste it from somewhere. --Serenity 12:37, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

At least you know what it does. Most of the people around here probably don't know. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 12:42, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Hell, I was wondering where this template was so I could add this break tool. I've called it a "Day" break, named after one of our old admins who showed me how useful it would be in the CIC article two years ago now. A version of it is there. What about the shorter and just as effective <br clear="all">? Any differences? --Spencerian 12:52, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

<div style="clear:both;"></div> is the more "correct" syntax to use i believe, wouldn't it be easier as a template? {{break}} or something? --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 13:41, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

Actually, neither is "more correct" AFAIK. The difference is that <br clear="all"/> adds an extra newline, whereas <div style="clear:both;"></div> doesn't. Except when the tag is followed by a blank line (very common), in which case it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter very much, but the div variant is just more commonly used. BTW, is it possible to include clear: both; (or at least clear: right;) in the CSS definition for a section header? That'd save us a lot of trouble typing <div style="clear:both;"></div> or even {{break}}. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:47, 21 May 2007 (CDT)

New design

Cool! This'll definitely help navigating through edittools; it used to be a nightmare finding a character. Where did you get this JS stuff? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:09, 26 January 2008 (CST)

I saw it on MediaWiki.org and pulled it. :) It used to be on WP at one time, yet, for whatever reason, they do not use it. It's also on Battlestar Pegasus. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:28, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Looks good, though I didn't really mind the old, long list. However, "div clear" is missing again. -- Serenity 13:22, 26 January 2008 (CST)

I'll add the div clear stuff back in. ;-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:28, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Note that you can't use spaces in charinsert stuff: These

are separate words --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 14:25, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Actually, yes you can. For instance, using this code: <charinsert><nowiki>These are separate words that can be inserted together</nowki></charinsert> would enable you to produce this: These are separate words that can be inserted together. So if you see something that needs to be corrected, feel free. :D-- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 14:32, 26 January 2008 (CST)

The <nowiki>{{newsection link}}</nowiki> part doesn't seem to work. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 14:56, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Fixed it. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 15:06, 26 January 2008 (CST)

Very iffey. :| Now it takes 2 steps to send a welcome message. :| Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 00:50, 27 January 2008 (CST)

Incorrect. It's part of the first set of options, which show up automatically. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 00:54, 27 January 2008 (CST)

That the talk options are on a separate page now is kinda inconvenient. There's only 2 options there. Is it really necessary to have that in its own menu? I can see "new section link", since that's not needed often. But having the tildes on the main page would really be easier. Or maybe I just need to get used to clicking one more time... -- Serenity 05:55, 27 January 2008 (CST)

Yeah, I can move the sig to the main menu. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 06:03, 27 January 2008 (CST)

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-<div id="editpage-specialchars" class="plainlinks" style="margin-top: 15px; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; border-color: #aaaaaa; padding: 2px;">
+== <nowiki><div style="clear:both;"></div></nowiki> ==
+One of the tags I use most. Wouldn't it be useful to have it in the edittools box? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:01, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
+: Sure. It's now added. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 12:32, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
+::Thanks. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:35, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
+::Woo! I could never remember how to use that one, and always had to copypaste it from somewhere. --[[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 12:37, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
+:::At least you know what it does. Most of the people around here probably don't know. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 12:42, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
+::::Hell, I was ''wondering'' where this template was so I could add this break tool. I've called it a "[[User:Day|Day]]" break, named after one of our old admins who showed me how useful it would be in the [[CIC]] article two years ago now. A version of it is there. What about the shorter and just as effective <nowiki><br clear="all"></nowiki>? Any differences? --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 12:52, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
+:::::<nowiki><div style="clear:both;"></div></nowiki> is the more "correct" syntax to use i believe, wouldn't it be easier as a template? <nowiki>{{break}}</nowiki> or something? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 13:41, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
+::::::Actually, neither is "more correct" AFAIK. The difference is that <nowiki><br clear="all"/></nowiki> adds an extra newline, whereas <nowiki><div style="clear:both;"></div></nowiki> doesn't. Except when the tag is followed by a blank line (very common), in which case it doesn't matter. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter very much, but the div variant is just more commonly used. BTW, is it possible to include clear: both; (or at least clear: right;) in the CSS definition for a section header? That'd save us a lot of trouble typing <nowiki><div style="clear:both;"></div></nowiki> or even <nowiki>{{break}}</nowiki>. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:47, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
-<span id="edittools_main">'''Insert:''' <charinsert>– — … ° ≈ ± − × ÷ ← → · § </charinsert></span><span id="edittools_name">&nbsp;&nbsp;'''Sign your name:''' <charinsert>--~~~~ </charinsert></span>
+== New design ==
-----
-<small><span id="edittools_characters">'''Characters:'''
-<span class="latinx">
-<charinsert> Á á Ć ć É é Í í Ĺ ĺ Ń ń Ó ó Ŕ ŕ Ś ś Ú ú Ý ý Ź ź </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> À à È è Ì ì Ò ò Ù ù </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Â â Ĉ ĉ Ê ê Ĝ ĝ Ĥ ĥ Î î Ĵ ĵ Ô ô Ŝ ŝ Û û Ŵ ŵ Ŷ ŷ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ä ä Ë ë Ï ï Ö ö Ü ü Ÿ ÿ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ß </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ã ã Ẽ ẽ Ĩ ĩ Ñ ñ Õ õ Ũ ũ Ỹ ỹ</charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ç ç Ģ ģ Ķ ķ Ļ ļ Ņ ņ Ŗ ŗ Ş ş Ţ ţ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Đ đ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ů ů </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ǎ ǎ Č č Ď ď Ě ě Ǐ ǐ Ľ ľ Ň ň Ǒ ǒ Ř ř Š š Ť ť Ǔ ǔ Ž ž </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ā ā Ē ē Ī ī Ō ō Ū ū Ȳ ȳ Ǣ ǣ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ǖ ǘ ǚ ǜ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ă ă Ĕ ĕ Ğ ğ Ĭ ĭ Ŏ ŏ Ŭ ŭ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ċ ċ Ė ė Ġ ġ İ ı Ż ż </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ą ą Ę ę Į į Ǫ ǫ Ų ų </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ł ł </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ő ő Ű ű </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ŀ ŀ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ħ ħ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ð ð Þ þ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Œ œ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Æ æ Ø ø Å å </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ə ə </charinsert></span>&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;
-<charinsert><nowiki>{{</nowiki><nowiki>Latinx|</nowiki>+<nowiki>}}</nowiki></charinsert><br/></span>
-<span id="edittools_greek">'''Greek:''' <charinsert> Α α Β β Γ γ Δ δ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ε ε Ζ ζ Η η Θ θ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ι ι Κ κ Λ λ Μ μ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ν ν Ξ ξ Ο ο Π π </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Ρ ρ Σ σ ς Τ τ Υ υ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> Φ φ Χ χ Ψ ψ Ω ω </charinsert> &nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;
-<charinsert><nowiki>{{</nowiki><nowiki>Polytonic|</nowiki>+<nowiki>}}</nowiki></charinsert> <br/></span>
-<span id="edittools_ipa">'''IPA:''' <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA"><charinsert>ʈ ɖ ɟ ɡ ɢ ʡ ʔ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɸ ʃ ʒ ɕ ʑ ʂ ʐ ʝ ɣ ʁ ʕ ʜ ʢ ɦ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɱ ɳ ɲ ŋ ɴ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ʋ ɹ ɻ ɰ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ʙ ʀ ɾ ɽ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɫ ɬ ɮ ɺ ɭ ʎ ʟ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɥ ʍ ɧ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɓ ɗ ʄ ɠ ʛ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ʘ ǀ ǃ ǂ ǁ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɨ ʉ ɯ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɪ ʏ ʊ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɘ ɵ ɤ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɚ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɛ ɜ ɝ ɞ ʌ ɔ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ɐ ɶ ɑ ɒ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ʰ ʷ ʲ ˠ ˤ ⁿ ˡ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ˈ ˌ ː ˑ  </charinsert>&nbsp;</span> &nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;
-<charinsert><nowiki>{{</nowiki><nowiki>IPA|</nowiki>+<nowiki>}}</nowiki></charinsert><br/></span>
-<span id="edittools_symbols">'''Symbols:''' <charinsert> ~ | ¡ ¿ † ‡ ↔ ↑ ↓ • </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> # ¹ ² ³ ½ ⅓ ⅔ ¼ ¾ ⅛ ⅜ ⅝ ⅞ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ‘ “ ’ ” </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> ¢ $ € £ ¥ </charinsert><br/></span>
-<span id="edittools_wikimarkup">'''Wiki markup:'''
-<charinsert>[+] [[+]] <nowiki>{{</nowiki>+<nowiki>}}</nowiki> </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert>[[Category:+]]</charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert>#REDIRECT[[+]]</charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert><s>+</s></charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert><sup>+</sup></charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert><sub>+</sub></charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert><ref>+</ref></charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert><references/></charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert><includeonly>+</includeonly></charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert><noinclude>+</noinclude></charinsert></span><br/>
-<span id="edittools_bsgwikimarkup">'''BSG Quick markup:'''
-<charinsert> {{subst:welcome|{{PAGENAMEE}}}}--~~~~ </charinsert> &nbsp;
-<charinsert> {{subst:spoiler}} {{subst:spoiltext|}}</charinsert>
-</span>
-</small>
-</div>
+Cool! This'll definitely help navigating through edittools; it used to be a nightmare finding a character. Where did you get this JS stuff? --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 13:09, 26 January 2008 (CST)
-<div style="margin-top:1em;" id="editpage-copywarn2">
+: I saw it on MediaWiki.org and pulled it. :) It used to be on WP at one time, yet, for whatever reason, they do not use it. It's also on [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:28, 26 January 2008 (CST)
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+Looks good, though I didn't really mind the old, long list. However, "div clear" is missing again. -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 13:22, 26 January 2008 (CST)
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+: I'll add the div clear stuff back in. ;-) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 13:28, 26 January 2008 (CST)
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+::Note that you can't use spaces in charinsert stuff: <charinsert>These are separate words</charinsert> --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:25, 26 January 2008 (CST)
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+:::Actually, yes you can. For instance, using this code: <tt><nowiki><charinsert><nowiki>These are separate words that can be inserted together</nowki></charinsert></nowiki></tt> would enable you to produce this:  <charinsert><nowiki>These are separate words that can be inserted together</nowiki></charinsert>.  So if you see something that needs to be corrected, feel free. :D-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 14:32, 26 January 2008 (CST)
-</div>
+::::The <code><nowiki><nowiki>{{newsection link}}</nowiki></nowiki></code> part doesn't seem to work. --[[User:Catrope|Catrope]]<sup>([[User talk:Catrope|Talk to me]] or [[Special:Emailuser/Catrope|e-mail me]])</sup> 14:56, 26 January 2008 (CST)
+:::::Fixed it. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 15:06, 26 January 2008 (CST)
+::::::Very iffey. :| Now it takes 2 steps to send a welcome message. :| [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 00:50, 27 January 2008 (CST)
+:::::::Incorrect. It's part of the first set of options, which show up automatically. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 00:54, 27 January 2008 (CST)
+That the talk options are on a separate page now is kinda inconvenient. There's only 2 options there. Is it really necessary to have that in its own menu? I can see "new section link", since that's not needed often. But having the tildes on the main page would really be easier. Or maybe I just need to get used to clicking one more time... -- [[User:Serenity|Serenity]] 05:55, 27 January 2008 (CST)
+: Yeah, I can move the sig to the main menu. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 06:03, 27 January 2008 (CST)