Purpose
This page serves to collect all information on arts, literature, music, and aesthetics in the twelve colonies. It is currently a merger of Edward Prima, Dark Day, A Murder on Picon, Kataris and Monclair, with additional notes on the abstract art of Kara Thrace and her father's piano compositions, as proposed on Talk:Polygons. The current version is a very rough draft. This article will eventually include notes on colonial aesthetics (octagons, hexagons, etc.) and some more prosaic introductory text, and become part of the the Twelve Colonies series.
Suggestions are welcome. --Peter Farago 18:00, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
Aesthetics
Merv, please leave the outline on Aesthetics alone until I have a chance to fill it. --Peter Farago 18:06, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
- As a dumping ground compilation of the various arts pages I agree, but there don't need to be whole subsections on the cut corners; a mention in the intro will do. I'm assuming popular culture counted too?--The Merovingian (C - E) 18:04, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
- Would you give me a day or two to put something together before passing final judgement? I think it could be a fairly interesting section of the article, and the need for something of this nature was pointed out convincingly on Talk:Polygons. --Peter Farago 18:07, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
- Oh yeah, sorry I thought it was as done was it was going to be; didn't see that it was a new project thing. --The Merovingian (C - E) 18:29, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
Dreilide Thrace
The Merovingian deleted the reference to Dreilide Thrace with the edit summary: "We don't know her father's name".
With respect, I submit that if the SkyOne information is good enough for us to have articles on the otherwise unnamed Joseph and Evelyn Adama, we can rely on it for Mr. Thrace's given name until contradicted by the series. --Peter Farago 18:06, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
- ....I don't know if we should do that: A) SkyOne isn't a definative source B) most importantly, This SkyOne information was *taken down*. It no longer exists online. Maybe they took it down....because it was no longer "correct"? I've pointed out in several character bios, notably Galactica-Sharon, that information from SkyOne's old bio stuff has in fact been contradicted several times by new information.
- You are right: I was unaware that that was the sole source of William Adama's mother's name (his father's name is engraved on the lighter), but if SkyOne is indeed the sole source of this info I'm going to slap a proposal for deletion on "Evelyn Adama". We really shouldn't use it if it's not from Scifi, and was actually removed. --The Merovingian (C - E) 18:33, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
- I've copied this to Battlestar Wiki talk:Citation Jihad. Let's continue the discussion there. --Peter Farago 18:48, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
Image Requests
- Kataris: Either Palladino's bound copy of his poems, or the threatening message on Tigh's mirror.
- Dark Day: A screen cap of Adama giving the book to Roslin, or Roslin returning it to Adama
- Dreilide Thrace: Can we link to the streaming media sample of "Metamorphosis One" on Amazon?
--Peter Farago 18:13, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
- What about the free, full copy of it posted in Galacticastation's media section? Click on my username at the end of this message: I already hotlinked it into my 'music to work to' section. :) --The Merovingian (C - E) 20:10, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
- Link's broken. --Peter Farago 21:37, 21 May 2006 (CDT)
Efficiency
Buzzword of the day: the technical reason squares are the most "efficient" shape is because they are the measure polytope of two-dimensional space. The Octagon, meanwhile, cannot tesselate 2-space. --Peter Farago 03:59, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
- Thanks for the tidbit; that's really quite interesting. --CalculatinAvatar(C-T) 13:25, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
Big Enough?
I added two sections on Sculpture and Architecture, including 3 thumbnail images. Is that enough to expand this article sufficiently or should I hunt down more? --Homeworld616 15:53, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
- I would hope that all the TODO's would be done (or at least removed) before removing the expansion tag. --Steelviper 15:59, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
- I'm not sure what your basis is for identifying the two unnamed cities with a pre-federalist aesthetic, and Caprica city with a federalist aesthetic. --Peter Farago 16:40, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
Homeworld616 I appreciate your work and a lot of its good...but most of this is just "we put a camera on downtown Vancouver because that's where we film", and you're trying to base theories on that. I mean the bemusing thing is to add on notes to like, Caprica or the Miniseries + "Epiphanies" and say "this is really shot on SFU's campus in Vancouver", but it doesn't really mean anything. --The Merovingian (C - E) 16:51, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
- Yeah. I'd rather not read too much into the architectural variations. --Peter Farago 18:23, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
- Sorry about all this you guys. I just write about what I see. I apologize for my overzealous detail-espousing and theory-making. I'll try to improve that. Anyhow, my basis for the different aesthetics ranging from the unnamed cities to Caprica City is, on secondary review on my part, unfounded. I see mixtures of both "styles" in each city. I'll get on that. Also, if you don't want to read into that architectural detail mumbo-jumbo I'll trim down the Kobol section (which, since Kobol wasn't a colony, I don't know if that section should even be here). I can also take superfluous detail off of the other sections and perhaps combine them. --Homeworld616 23:17, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
- There. Does this form please you? --Homeworld616 23:24, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
Galactica v. Pegasus
Galactica corridors are pretty much just pentagons while those on Pegasus are octagons. That clears up that TODO, doesn't it? (I asked this question because I didn't want to write false info into the article. I'd like this hallway shape verified first). --Homeworld616 23:33, 3 July 2006 (CDT)
- I believe that the corridor junctions on Galactica form acute angles, whereas the junctions on Pegasus are at right angles. --Peter Farago 04:37, 4 July 2006 (CDT)
It would also be nice to get some more images and rethink their layout in this article before going live. The image to text ratio is going to be necessarily high due to topic matter - I think this calls for judicious use of the gallery tag. --Peter Farago 04:45, 4 July 2006 (CDT)