Talk:Season 4 (2008-09)/Archive 1

Shouldn't this be Season 4 (2007-08)? -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 14:47, 13 February 2007 (CST)

Yes, ill move now --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 14:52, 13 February 2007 (CST)

It not going to be showing on 2007.... Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 15:01, 13 February 2007 (CST)

oops ^_^ --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 15:05, 13 February 2007 (CST)

And now it might even be Season 4 (2008-09) lol --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 12:43, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Harbinger of Doom?

Sci Fi Channel has a dubious reputation when it comes to its own original series (note Farscape). Having only 13 episodes (which reflects season 1's initial allotment) may be for a number of factors, such as "less is more," for cost issues, or even committment. It's not that Sci Fi hasn't given the show enough advertising--far from it, IMO. I don't think it's got the best time slot, however. Friday was just fine, when Stargate fed its audience. Today, BSG holds well in ratings given the lack of a feeder show (A good one would be to have "Heroes" encore show play instead of "The Dresden Files," which seems to be an overused cop/sureality show a'la X-Files anyway). But it could and should do better. There's also the matter of the balance of action to character event shows, where this season isn't good in the space fighting that we all enjoy, and the overall mood; the audience really needs a pick-me-up show. The whole show needs to be dramatic, not depressing. --Spencerian 11:46, 15 February 2007 (CST)

If they can write 13 episodes as tightly as they did the first season, then it'll be a good thing. As involved as RDM and Eick are involved in all stages of the process, I'd imagine it's considerably easier to wrap your (their) head around, top to bottom, thirteen rather than twenty episodes. Also, the way I read some of the announcements the thirteen is a floor (that potentially they could pick up more if the ratings are favorable). My other reaction to seeing 13 episodes was that Season 5 is likely in the bag, if only to reach that magical (and to me, mysterious) tipping point for syndication. --Steelviper 12:04, 15 February 2007 (CST)

The moment they increase the action for the sake of ratings is the moment the show deserves to die. I like the action scenes alright, but only if they supplement a good episode and don't distract from more important things. The balance is fine at the moment, as there have been some very large action and story episodes. I also watch the show because of the deep character stuff, so anything of that is very welcome here.

I'm cautiously optimistic. Maybe they'll still increase there order. Maybe there'll be further 13 episode seasons. Who knows. Sure, things could be better, but I'll wait and see, before I join any of the typical and tiresome interweb pessimism. A 13 episode order has its advantages too and it's standard on cable anyways. --Serenity 12:07, 15 February 2007 (CST)

I think a 13-episode season will mean fewer fillers, which should result in fewer 'bad' episodes. I'm not saying all fillers are bad episodes (I liked Litmus, Collaborators, Unfinished Business and Taking a Break, to name a few), but bad episodes do tend to be fillers. Also, 13 seems to be the magic number: episodes 214 and 314 (Black Market and The Woman King) were the worst eps to date, IMO. As in Season 2, Season 3 seems to have a couple of consecutive fillers around eps 14-16, which is usually the least interesting part of a season. A 13-episode season is less likely to have this caveat and might actually be better, unless perhaps they 'linked' those three fillers (eps 14-16), i.e. make them about a cross-episode story.

Actually, the 13 eps instead of 20 isn't my biggest problem. It's that we have to wait for NINE FRAKKING MONTHS! --Catrope 14:37, 15 February 2007 (CST)

What goes for cows and countesses apparently goes for the production team as well. Hopefully that means that there won't have to be a mid-season break, and that they'll have plenty of time to execute (or be well rested). --Steelviper 15:08, 15 February 2007 (CST)

9 months til new series yes... but then the plan is to have the direct to DVD/telemovie about September time. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 15:34, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Ah. No rest for the weary, then. --Steelviper 15:38, 15 February 2007 (CST)

It's something, but it's still only two hours (equivalent to 2-3 eps). It'll probably be more interesting than 3 regular episodes, though. --Catrope 15:45, 15 February 2007 (CST)

Season split?

Just reading this and wondering whether anyone knows any more and whether it should be added or not?--Thetriangleguy 11:02, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

It needs to be substantiated a lot more than some AICN news piece... We should wait until we get confirmation from more legitimate news sources. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 11:13, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

That would really SUCK. Anyway, since neither Sci Fi nor RDM & Co. have responded yet, it's still a rumor and we should treat it as such. This means it's not gonna appear in our news section until it's been confirmed (or denied, which I'm hoping for). --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 11:17, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Oh I agree (I'm not a fan of AICN). I just wondered if anyone knew anymore about it. I certainly hope it's not true--Thetriangleguy 11:20, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

ETA for Europe then sometime about 2012? Rubbish --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 12:45, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Exactly. If Universal/NBC (whoever produces BSG) think they can stop torrenting by stretching a season over two years and backing out of their iPod deal, they've missed a lesson on making yourself popular. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 13:41, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

I have to wonder what this means for Amazon's Unbox as well... They too sell the episodes for $1.99 a pop. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:44, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

I also must wonder whether or not all this may be due to the rumors possibility of a WGA strike. See this for a overview. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 13:59, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

Sounds nasty. But the article you linked to says studios will want to put stuff through production before June 2008. Surely Season 4 will have finished (or be about to finish) by that time? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 15:57, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

They may want the produced content as filler for during the strike, should it hit in June. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 16:48, 3 September 2007 (CDT)

4.08 Title

According to Michael Taylor [1]. Episode 8 is called "Sine Qua Non". --Deus 17:58, 16 November 2007 (CST)

Lot of data there, particularly "Razor" stuff. And the link to a Battlestar Wiki article on daggits was nice too. ;-) -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 18:17, 16 November 2007 (CST)