Talk:Number Three/Archive 1

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> and may be one of the eight agents Sharon Valerii revealed to be onboard the Galactica.

When did she reveal this? A link to the episode would be helpful.

I'm guessing it'll be during her interrogation in one of the new episodes. Kuralyov 11:42, 5 Jul 2005 (EDT)

It was, Dr Gaius drugged the chief and he was going to die, and told Boomer that unless she tells him how many cylons there are in the fleet, he would let the chief die. --Viper68.89.164.132 19:22, 20 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Also, how do we know this? Ive seen all the eps aired and would have recognized lucy lawless much less if she was revealed to be a cylon --Viper68.89.164.132 19:22, 20 Aug 2005 (EDT)

The episode has yet to air, thus you haven't seen it. -- Joe Beaudoin 20:37, 20 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Since Biers has not appeared in past episodes that feature the fleet-wide press, it can be speculated that prior to the Cylon Attack, she was more of a tabloid investigative reporter than a mainstream journalist.

Actually, there's a simpler explanation - the journalists we've seen so far have mostly been members of the press crew covering Galactica's decomissioning - print journalists and radio commentators. Biers is a filmmaker. I mean, you wouldn't expect to find Michael Moore covering a white house press conference, right? That's just not what he does. --Peter Farago 17:41, 11 September 2005 (EDT)

I found a good news item for Lucy Lawless's future on the show. It comes from a reliable entertainment news site.

"Lucy Lawless is joining the cast of SciFi's Battlestar Galactica for 10 episodes of the third season. Lawless is reprising her role as D'Anna Biers." Here's the link (you just need to scroll about halfway down): http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0602/06/index.htm --Ltcrashdown 21:27, 6 February 2006 (EST)

Um, better than that LTcrashdown, it says this on the front page of the official Scifi.com site. This link just copies the press released from the official site. --Ricimer 22:42, 6 February 2006 (EST)

Entertainment Weekly

Should it be mentioned that in one of the recent issues of EW, there was some information stating that

Spoiler follows, highlight to read.

D'Anna would be the leader of the Cylons? The text was "Former Xena, Lucy Lawless, will parlay her second appearance (on Feb. 24) as sentient hottie/brassy TV reporter D'Anna Biers into a full-time gig on Sci-Fi's Battlestar Galactica. The 10-epicode arc, starting next season, will detail D'Anna's emergence as - SPOILER ALERT - leader of her human-hating species, the Cylons. "I'm disinterested in playing a bleeding-heart Cylon," Lawless giggles. Besides, she points out cryptically, "no evil person thinks they're evil."

--DrBat 08:44, 7 February 2006 (EST)

DrBat, please read the article first. On January 29th I already got this information from a Lucy Lawless official fansite's transcript of Lawless's appearance at a the official XenaCon. But she also gave the idea that she is not "the" leader of the Cylons; factions will develop when she claims this. Mainstream press like EW usually isn't as accurate as straight-from-the-horse's-mouth actor fansites. --Ricimer 18:29, 7 February 2006 (EST)

Metinks Number Six will have a BIG problem with D'anna trying to take over, IMO. They'll be a catfight on Caprica of epic proportions! --Spencerian 23:56, 7 February 2006 (EST)

Can you post a link and/or some what she said onto Bier's entry? --DrBat 12:31, 8 February 2006 (EST)

Um, that's why I was complaining: I already put all of this information onto the "D'anna" article, plus I already provided links for it to the Lawless fansite I got it from (which has proved a quite reliable source in the past; Lawless gives lots of spoilers). I am sorry, but the impression I got was that Dreamer didn't bother to read this article before adding redundant material. --The Merovingian 16:12, 8 February 2006 (EST)

I don't know if you're referring to me, but all the quote on the page says is that the character sets herself up as a god. It doesn't say anything about factions developing among the Cylons over whether or not to view her as their leader. --DrBat 11:56, 9 February 2006 (EST)

Spoiler follows, highlight to read.
Other spoilers from the same source relate how Number Six is going to beat a D'anna copy to death with a rock and fight her, etc., plus other sources have talked about internal factions: they're dividing.

--The Merovingian 13:42, 9 February 2006 (EST)

I believe you, I was just asking if you could post a link and some text about the factions. The current link only mentions Lucy playing a character who views herself as a god. --DrBat 07:33, 10 February 2006 (EST)

Fanlisting

Um, what exactly does a fanlist do?--The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 07:32, 18 April 2006 (CDT)

They list all 20 fans, of course, including both "D'Anna Biers" and "LINDSAY." ...So, to be less bitterly sarcastic, they let fans of something know about other fans so they can contact each other or whatever. I'd vote for the link getting pulled. --CalculatinAvatar 10:34, 18 April 2006 (CDT)

Main Image

Hey, I was wondering which of these three images you would prefer if I placed as a main image.

The first is the same as the current, but cropped so that we can actually see her better.

The second is another promo image, cropped to show a specific section of her, and she is in another psot.

The third is a crop of the last.

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I myself sort of prefer the middle or last one, but all are good for me. The most important thing is that the image conveys the character and her attitude, so other people's opinions would be nice :)--Sauron18 16:45, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

I'm thinking the third one. Noneofyourbusiness 18:01, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

I'll go for the third one too. The black background is easier on the eyes, but you see more of her than in pic 2 --Serenity 18:03, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

Great, I'll put the third one then ;) --Sauron18 18:17, 17 September 2006 (CDT)

So, I was waiting for episode 3x07 to air to bring this up, and it's that a lot of good promotional images were released for Three in this episode. Now, DrBat put one up, but the one I had actually thought would've made a really good one (albeit, had mentioned yet for spoiler safety of readers) is this one [1] because it's a better angle in my opinion and she looks more formal, but you choose whichever you want.

So let's call for a vote for the main picture

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  Picture1
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  Picture 2

One of these, or the past ones. My vote goes for “Picture 2” of this batch, as I said above, I think she simply looks better and more in her natural environment, but choose as you please. --Sauron18 19:35, 11 November 2006 (CST)

• I just want to add that I actually do like the one presently there right now, however, I do feel like that angle is a bit weird for D'anna, but whichever of the pics is selected, I think the other one still deserves to be on the article. --Sauron18 20:06, 11 November 2006 (CST)

Meh, it looks good, ignore everything I say. I hate it when there are two pics equally good an you can decide :P --Sauron18 23:11, 13 November 2006 (CST)

I prefer picture 1 because picture 2 has her body turned a little to the side, and she's cast in a blue light. --DrBat 21:33, 20 November 2006 (CST)

Capitalization of the "A" in D'Anna

I noticed that the main page for the character has a lowercase "a" after the apostrophe. That doesn't appear to be correct. The episode summaries on the official Sci Fi site spell the name with a capital A. --123home123 23:21, 2 October 2006 (EDT)

Disambiguation?

I'm wondering if we're going to have to do some in-article disambiguation soon between D'anna, the mainline Threes and "Oracle-Three" (the one having the visions). Any thoughts on this?--み使い Mitsukai 19:42, 17 October 2006 (CDT)

I think the article is sufficient so far. D'anna Biers, and the Three that is the antigonist of Caprica-Six are the only ones significantly differentiated. It's likely (although not confirmable unless a BW:OC answer comes) that the Three that is revealed at the end of "Final Cut" is the same one. --Spencerian 21:48, 17 October 2006 (CDT)

"Oracle-Three" may well be D'anna Biers, since she was the one who was shocked by news of Hera's death in a Downloaded deleted scene. -- Noneofyourbusiness 08:59, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

She's the same Three who got rocked by Six, and that means it can't be D'anna since at the same time D'anna was trying to steal the child. --Sauron18 16:33, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

What makes you think she's the same Three who got rocked by Six? Noneofyourbusiness 18:26, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

I think it was in various interviews, but you did make me think, so I'll look around to see precisely why I believe it is the Rocker. --Sauron18 20:44, 18 October 2006 (CDT)

It IS D'anna

So, I had previousley argued that the Three we see with the baby & stuff is the one that got "rocked" by Six. However, the discussion made me look for proof, so I looked for the very first time we saw the Three that was certainly the one who got the baby, and I remembered that we see her ear, and she has 3 ear pearcincs in one ear.

Now I know this is LL, so any Three could have them, but then I thought that maybe, if D'anna had previousley appeared with 3 Earings, this was a clue that it was that Three (since their bodies are probably not made with pearcings). And I was suprrised to find, that D'anna Biers did, indeed, wear 3 earings in the same fashion, one which no other Three has worn.

So I admit I was wrong and we now know that "Baby-Three" is indeed "D'anna Biers". I put this in a category of it's own because I consider the proof important.

I know many of you had already assumed this, but this is my proof that it's the same character, and that we might disambiguate at least this specific Cylon from the batch. --Sauron18 23:57, 21 October 2006 (CDT)

The questions that bring up would be if "Baby-Three" is indeed "D'anna Biers", did she live a year with the humans and never managed to bump into Anders or the others who were rescued,(who know what a Three looks like) or was D'anna perhaps killed from the Cloud 9 explosion and somehow resurected? Belay-down-your-burdens 22:53, 23 October 2006 (CDT)

The Cylon copies share memories; while it probable that the Three that carries Hera away is the Fleet's "D'anna," we cannot be sure. ALL Cylon models have the same identity that changes over time with exposure and experience. The D'anna copy did not speak in kiwi accent, now, all do. Photographic evidence for everyone (with episode citations) could help your case. There's nothing in aired content that I'm aware of which suggests where the original D'anna model ends up. --Spencerian 11:27, 24 October 2006 (CDT)

You can see D'Anna with 3 earings in "Final Cut", and the Three we see shows them very clearly in "Exodus I". But that aside, the clearest evidence is the one presented in the point below. --Sauron18 21:23, 17 November 2006 (CST)

Was that a Retcon?

I just watched "Hero", and unless I'm mistaken that had a retcon, making the deleted scenes in "Downloaded" non canonical (at least the ones with D'Anna), and making "Rock Three" and "D'Anna Biers" the exact same Cylon.....

Unless Rock Three shared her memory and D'Anna for some reason took her place in Cylon society, but I doubt that, so this smells like a retcon to me. Thoughts? --Sauron18 21:23, 17 November 2006 (CST)

Apparently she's "Rock-Three", not the reporter. Only "Rock Three" flashbacks were in that sequence, not D'Anna Biers flashbacks. -- Noneofyourbusiness 22:01, 17 November 2006 (CST)

Actually, the whole dream she had of being shot was not only with the D'Anna costume, but in Galactica, making it impossible for her to be any other Three. --Sauron18 22:56, 17 November 2006 (CST)

The costume doesn't tell us much of anything, and the Cylons would know about the internal design of Galactica via the reports of Boomer, Shelly Godfrey and Bomber Doral. Anyway, RDM says in his podcast that the sequence was set up to tease the viewer as long as possible. --Peter Farago 12:03, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Well I'm just saying, I doubt it's a coincidence she was wearing both D'Anna costumes, but whether the memory is another Three's or hers is unknown. It does seem to me, however, that her being D'Anna would be the simplest explanation as to why she remembers some things, and why everyone calls her that. --Sauron18 16:01, 18 December 2006 (CST)

Reorganize with information from Hero

Sorry if I'm repeating anything above, but I just want to establish consensus before we reorganize the article.

The flashbacks seen during Three's suicide in "Hero" included images of:

• Three, sitting in a theater with other Cylons in "Final Cut"
• Three, leveling a gun at Anders in "Downloaded"
• Three, finding Hera on New Caprica in "Exodus, Part II" (this one was referred to by Baltar as "D'anna")

This strongly suggests that these Threes, and the one featured recently on the Basestar, are the same person.

Meanwhile, the Fleet copy would be the one featured in "Final Cut" and cut from "Downloaded". Although we don't know her ultimate fate, it's almost inconceivable that she managed to avoid being out by Anders for over a year on New Caprica. Until we learn otherwise, the safest assumption is that she was executed, like the two Cavils in "Lay Down Your Burdens, Part II". --Peter Farago 11:36, 1 December 2006 (CST)

Well, the main Three had a dream in which she was dressed as D'Anna Biers and was in D'Anna's setting....so it's still rather unclear. --Sauron18 15:59, 18 December 2006 (CST)