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Semi-automated pipe sort -> DEFAULTSORT conversion

Read this. We could use this as well, as almost all of our articles still use piped sorting. The script could work either on an allpages basis (listing all pages which use piped sort), on a template basis (listing all pages that transclude Template:Cast Data, Template:Crew Data and Template:Character Data and use piped sort), or on a category basis (listing all pages in that use piped sort, requires MediaWiki 1.11alpha). I think the category approach is probably best, but it does require an upgrade to 1.11alpha (see here for how to download that). If we can't (or won't) upgrade, we can also just use the allpages thing on the main namespace only.

Mind you: all this 'bot' will do is make a list of pages that use piped sort rather than DEFAULTSORT. Updating these pages to use DEFAULTSORT is still our job, which means we'll have to enlist some volunteers if we're gonna do this.

Mind you 2: we can also use my script to count the pages that use piped sorting, so we can decide whether we want to do this with the numbers in mind.

Note: if you don't understand what this is about, read the snippet below, then re-read my post.

<!-- This is piped sorting syntax -->
[[Category:A to Z|Adama, Lee]]
[[Category:Characters|Adama, Lee]]
[[Category:Characters (RDM)|Adama, Lee]]
[[Category:Main Characters (RDM)|Adama, Lee]]
[[Category:People from Caprica|Adama, Lee]]
[[Category:RDM|Adama, Lee]]

<!-- With DEFAULTSORT syntax, this would become: -->
{{DEFAULTSORT|Adama, Lee}}
[[Category:A to Z]]
[[Category:Characters]]
[[Category:Characters (RDM)]]
[[Category:Main Characters (RDM)]]
[[Category:People from Caprica]]
[[Category:RDM]]

What are your thoughts? --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 10:49, 18 June 2007 (CDT)

It appears someone has already written a bot to do this. Maybe we could run it some time. --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 06:16, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

To be honest, if we have to upgrade to 1.11, I would like to see it out of alpha and beta status before we roll it out here. As it stands now, the use of DEFAULTSORT vs piped sorting isn't a big hairy issue, as the categories at least have a sortkey of some type. So we can always hold off on that. -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New} 08:27, 19 June 2007 (CDT)

You're right, it's not at biting issue, so we could as well wait till 1.11 is stable, the MediaWiki API supports editing and I've written a bot that does all this. Good plan for next year's Super Bowl, I guess (when no one will be visiting or editing anyway). --Catrope^{(Talk to me or e-mail me)} 11:10, 19 June 2007 (CDT)