Talk:Dirty Hands/Archive 1

Episode Title Change?

The SciFi Schedule as Our Enemies, Ourselves as the episode after A Day in the Life on 2/25/07. --FrankieG 16:48, 7 January 2007 (CST)

Our Enemies, Ourselves was the original title before it was changed. See the BW:OC page for explanation by Bradley --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 09:01, 20 February 2007 (CST)

Locked Reason

Please read the blog here. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 23:00, 18 February 2007 (CST)

Predictions!

Sorry these are so late in the week. I came down with something pretty horrible and, for a few days, was barely able to sit up, much less contribute to a Wiki. Anyway, I'm going to try to be a bit more serious with this one than I have in the last couple of weeks. I just don't have as much time to gaze into the crystal ball like I did between TEOJ and Rapture - not that that's a complaint in any way! As always, you can place your bets (in cubits; your Earth money is of no value to us) at my or BB's Talk pages.

• Somebody of middling importance is gonna die this episode. The crystal ball is telling me it'll be Seelix, but my gut tells me it'll be Gaeta. I'd rather it was Seelix, but I feel they've been setting up Gaeta to take a bullet this whole season. I desperately hope they don't kill off Cally. Nicki Clyne is cuteness incarnate.
• Galen Tyrol bucks authority in a big way and doesn't get away with it, thus breaking the Battlestar trend of getting away with stuff because Bill Adama needs you.
• We find out why the Cylons have been so quiet: Boxing the Threes wasn't easy. The Threes didn't want to go and they caused a lot of damage on their way out. The entire Cylon expeditionary fleet (the Earth-bound fleet) is currently dead in space as a result, with no way to contact other Cylon ships. (They're out of range.)
• The Colonials find abandoned spaceship repair facilities constructed and then abandoned by the 13th Tribe. They begin the long, slow process of repairing the damage to their own ships using equipment that's been floating in space for thousands of years and thus isn't in the best of shape, nor is it 100% safe to use. The round-the-clock, hazardous labor required to repair, adapt, and then use the equipment is what leads to Tyrol's strike.
• Frustrated by his people's inability to repair their own base stars, Galvatron contacts the Colonial fleet, turning to his most hated enemies for help. The Colonials respond by sending the SuicideGirls in with nukes to wipe out the Cylons, but those pierced punkette pixie pilots pooch the plan and miss the Resurrection Ship.
• Hot Dog finally sees Cottle about his rash. Cottle berates him and issues him some of his most closely-guarded medical supplies: A box of rubbers.

Should be an intense episode, overall. Some of these predictions are more in line with rest-of-season possibilities than single episode speculation, but they're from my gut. --Slander 13:56, 22 February 2007 (CST)

I've been mulling over how the Fleet might get some more aid to fix what they have, short of yet another escaped battlestar or some other deus ex machina device. The idea of finding old Thirteenth Tribe stuff makes sense; unlike the Colonials, the 13th Tribe PLANNED to leave, it seems, and had taken lots of materials to help them do so. A portable shipdock? Maybe. Sounds fun, anyhow.

On Gaeta: You're right; I thought it was Cally in this last episode, but was happily wrong. It's still up in the air. The problem with the lack of all Threes makes very good sense; the Cylons aren't good as individuals, and plucking the Threes away makes for a lot of disorientation. The last two "predictions" are on the mark, as usual. But wait--isn't the season 3 cliffhanger going to be a big battle between the insane intellects of Galvatron and Gaius Baltar and a new villain that knows both weaknesses in humanity and Cylon? What if the Colonials and Cylon get into a big fight above a planet that changes into a very perturbed Unicron!? --Spencerian 14:10, 22 February 2007 (CST)

I like the repair thing, Tigh's comment of "we'd need 3 months in dry dock just to fix the dents" got me thinking about repairing Galactica, but I imagined some kind of agreement with the Cylons (the Colonials using Cylon repair facilities in return for some other favor). I don't think someone's gonna die this episode (reason see spoiler box), but if someone does die, it'll be a deckhand, which will be the cause for Tyrols strike.

Spoiler follows, highlight to read.
RDM confirmed someone major will die in Maelstrom, and two deaths in two episodes time seems a little over the top to me

--Catrope 14:19, 22 February 2007 (CST)

Doing Time

One of these days they need to throw Edward James Olmos in jail. When they do that every major character will have been in jail at some point. Whalepelt 23:23, 25 February 2007 (CST)

Is Baltar really from Aerelon?

There is a debate of whether Baltar is truly from Aerelon for myself at least. Even though he states it in his book and even does an Aerelon accent in front of Tyrol, that doesn't convince me that he indeed was from that colony. Several reasons why:

• He wrote a book that's sole purpose seems geared towards sowing dissension and dissatisfaction amongst the "working class" of the fleet. This is truly reminiscent of how Karl Marx and other political writers of the same caliber wrote such materials to rally the working class to turn against the middle and upper class sections of society. What better way to gave a sympatheic ear to Baltar than to at least try to establish some sort of common heritage with his target audience.

• Considering his intellect and the popular stereotypes that Cally had previously highlighted, it is not inconceivable for Baltar to do a fairly good imitation of an Aerelon's speech. This is similar to how some people may imitate an Italian or Boston accent on television shows. Even the actor who plays Lee Adama had to do an American accent for his role, even though he has a British accent in real life.

• As it is unlikely that the Fleet would have a database of birth certificates for the entire human race on the twelve colonies, there is no reasonable factual way to confirm or deny where each person in the fleet truly came from. This loophole could allow a person like Baltar, who is trying to ensure his own survival, to create any sort of back story he deems necessary in order to ensure that he lives another day.

• Roslin, during his strip search, appear to also show skepticism towards Baltar's claim to have come up from the poor colonies and rose to prominence amongst the upper class. This would indicate that either she simply can't imagine Baltar as an Aerelon, or she knows enough of his background that he was lying.

Anyhows, those are some of my thoughts on Baltar's claim. I honestly don't trust a single word that comes out of this man. He has shown again and again that he will twist whatever facts that there are to paint himself in the light of a victim. He has never taken full responsibility for how he allowed a security breach to occur with the defense program nor has he ever shown any true moment of repentance except at the times when he was truly afraid that he was going to die. --LifeStar 12:40, 26 February 2007 (CST)

A dub over?

-- thebairyhum
When President Roslin and Tyrol are talking on board Colonial One about the kids and families working in the refinery ship. Roslin agrees with Tyrol and says:

"That's a really good point. Tory I want you to make a list of every one in the fleet who has a work history appropriate to the refinery: factory workers, mechanics, whatever you think. Give it to the chief. I want you to hold a public lottery, and we will take people from other vessels and we will put them on shifts in the <REFINERY>. How's that chief?"

I can't quite make out what she is actually saying. And it does not look like "Daru Mozu".

Re-imagined Series definition: visual indicator used in a battlestar's Instrument Landing System during a hands-on approach ^{(TRS: "Miniseries", "Act of Contrition", "Final Cut", "Black Market")}

Original Series definition: a form of coined currency (see: cubit)