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:::::: [[BW:SHORT]] page is getting a huge update. trying to gather them all up. Most shortcuts are two to three letters. CP -- Community Portal. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:51, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
:::::: [[BW:SHORT]] page is getting a huge update. trying to gather them all up. Most shortcuts are two to three letters. CP -- Community Portal. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 12:51, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
::::::: And... I had to click to find out what BW:SHORT was. I'm not demanding change of usage, really. I'm just being a crochetey old codger. *wink* --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]] - [http://hiver.swordofthestars.com/ SotS])</sup> 20:06, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
:::: You're right, I don't constitute as consensus. :-) I'm just seeing what everyone else thinks. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:19, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
::::: Oh. I know you know this, Joe. Hence your councel for waiting to see what others say. I was more responding to Shane's... eagerness. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]] - [http://hiver.swordofthestars.com/ SotS])</sup> 21:37, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
I very much like the idea. It's an excellent example of the utility of templates in encouraging standardization. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 04:37, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
== An Update Idea ==
Myself and Steel were talking and maybe we should also add a line to the [[BW:FA]] requirement:
:''All cites should be in the format using the [[BW:CITE|Cite templates]].''
--[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 09:52, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
:That way we'd take more of a "fix it as we find them" approach rather than any sort of effort to actively identify and replace ALL instances that need to be changes (making a checklist to work, etc). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 09:55, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
== Vote ==
* Vote Ends: 5 days from 11:40, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
* Result from Support: [[BW:CITE]]
** Add this text:
:::''We have imported cite templates from Wikipedia that should be used to cite all types of sources. These templates should be placed inside the <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tags.''
* Implemented this throughout the site. Going to take a while so we should get started.
# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] -
# [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] - {{support}} as above --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]]<sup>([[Special:Contributions/CalculatinAvatar|C]]-[[User talk:CalculatinAvatar|T]])</sup> 13:25, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:Day|Day]] - {{support}} I don't see a problem. --[[User:Day|Day]] <sup>([[User talk:Day|Talk]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Administrators' noticeboard|Admin]] - [http://hiver.swordofthestars.com/ SotS])</sup> 13:10, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] - {{support}}
# [[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] - {{support}}
# [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] - {{support}}. Templates such as these are a Good Thing. But don't reinvent the wheel unless required; use them as-is from Wikipedia to save time and confusion. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 15:15, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] - {{Support}} Standardized citations = good. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:43, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
Note: All users are welcome to partake in the voting as well. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]]
# {{support}} [[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 11:36, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
# {{support}} --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 16:25, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
# {{support}} --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 17:36, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

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BW:Cite

If this goes into effect it'd mainly impact the BW:Cite page (update it to reflect the how to use the templates), and just be a matter of getting them as we see them. It seems like a good idea to me. --Steelviper 14:16, 14 July 2006 (CDT)

I have no problem in importing these templates from Wikipedia. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 16:02, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
I can import them now? --Shane (T - C - E) 18:18, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
No need to rush. Let's wait for more feedback on this from other users. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 18:32, 14 July 2006 (CDT)
As much as I like Joe and often agree with him, he doesn't constitute consensus. I'll have to look at those templates you linked (running out the door now), but I think this is a sound idea. Making the Jihad's job easier is a Good Thing(tm) in my book. And... does anyone else feel often baffled by the use of link-abbreviations in discourse? I mean--BW:CITE is pretty clear, but I had to actually click to figure out what BW:CP meant on another page. Just wondering if I was the only one. --Day (Talk - Admin - SotS) 10:13, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
BW:SHORT page is getting a huge update. trying to gather them all up. Most shortcuts are two to three letters. CP -- Community Portal. --Shane (T - C - E) 12:51, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
And... I had to click to find out what BW:SHORT was. I'm not demanding change of usage, really. I'm just being a crochetey old codger. *wink* --Day (Talk - Admin - SotS) 20:06, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
You're right, I don't constitute as consensus. :-) I'm just seeing what everyone else thinks. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 20:19, 15 July 2006 (CDT)
Oh. I know you know this, Joe. Hence your councel for waiting to see what others say. I was more responding to Shane's... eagerness. --Day (Talk - Admin - SotS) 21:37, 15 July 2006 (CDT)

I very much like the idea. It's an excellent example of the utility of templates in encouraging standardization. --CalculatinAvatar(C-T) 04:37, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

An Update Idea

Myself and Steel were talking and maybe we should also add a line to the BW:FA requirement:

All cites should be in the format using the Cite templates.

--Shane (T - C - E) 09:52, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

That way we'd take more of a "fix it as we find them" approach rather than any sort of effort to actively identify and replace ALL instances that need to be changes (making a checklist to work, etc). --Steelviper 09:55, 25 July 2006 (CDT)

Vote

  • Vote Ends: 5 days from 11:40, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
  • Result from Support: BW:CITE
    • Add this text:
We have imported cite templates from Wikipedia that should be used to cite all types of sources. These templates should be placed inside the <ref> tags.
  • Implemented this throughout the site. Going to take a while so we should get started.
  1. Joe Beaudoin Jr. -
  2. CalculatinAvatar - Support as above --CalculatinAvatar(C-T) 13:25, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
  3. Day - Support I don't see a problem. --Day (Talk - Admin - SotS) 13:10, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
  4. Mercifull - Support
  5. April Arcus - Support
  6. Spencerian - Support. Templates such as these are a Good Thing. But don't reinvent the wheel unless required; use them as-is from Wikipedia to save time and confusion. --Spencerian 15:15, 26 July 2006 (CDT)
  7. Steelviper - Support Standardized citations = good. --Steelviper 11:43, 24 July 2006 (CDT)

Note: All users are welcome to partake in the voting as well. -- Joe Beaudoin

  1. Support Shane (T - C - E) 11:36, 24 July 2006 (CDT)
  2. Support --FrankieG 16:25, 25 July 2006 (CDT)
  3. Support --Talos 17:36, 25 July 2006 (CDT)