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What is the source of this? --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:07, 8 February 2006 (EST)
What is the source of this? --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:07, 8 February 2006 (EST)


:I also note that Aerelon, Canceron, Sagittaron, Aquaria, Picon, and Gemenon seem to be misspelled. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 18:11, 8 February 2006 (EST)
:I also note that Aerelon, Canceron, Sagittaron, Aquaria, Picon, and Gemenon seem to be misspelled. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:11, 8 February 2006 (EST)


:Yes, very much so.  This doesn't look reliable at all.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 18:15, 8 February 2006 (EST)
:Yes, very much so.  This doesn't look reliable at all.--[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 18:15, 8 February 2006 (EST)
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::Strato did say "may be speculative" when he uploaded the image. --[[User:Kraetos|Kraetos]] 21:18, 8 February 2006 (EST)
::Strato did say "may be speculative" when he uploaded the image. --[[User:Kraetos|Kraetos]] 21:18, 8 February 2006 (EST)


:::We need to know the source for copyright purposes. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 21:20, 8 February 2006 (EST)
:::We need to know the source for copyright purposes. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:20, 8 February 2006 (EST)


::::He probably made it. Still, I wouldn't recommend using it anywhere, for that reason. --[[User:Kraetos|Kraetos]] 22:09, 8 February 2006 (EST)
::::He probably made it. Still, I wouldn't recommend using it anywhere, for that reason. --[[User:Kraetos|Kraetos]] 22:09, 8 February 2006 (EST)
:::::If it's his, he needs to explicitly grant permission for us to use it on the description page. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 02:33, 9 February 2006 (EST)
:::::If it's his, he needs to explicitly grant permission for us to use it on the description page. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 02:33, 9 February 2006 (EST)


::::I believe this should be classified fan fiction, artful as it is. Names appear TOS but banners are RDM. I recommend we give the contributor a chance for the source, but put it on the clock with a deletion tag. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 23:08, 8 February 2006 (EST)
::::I believe this should be classified fan fiction, artful as it is. Names appear TOS but banners are RDM. I recommend we give the contributor a chance for the source, but put it on the clock with a deletion tag. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 23:08, 8 February 2006 (EST)


I pulled it down off of a costume/prop building site. I don't know who created the file originally. My intent was not for this to be used for anything more than a comparison of matching Colony Names to their appropriate Banners, to help illustrate the discussion(so you could see what I was talking about). (since their seems to be confusion about this all over the web.) And yes I am aware the names of a few  of the colonies are incorrect for RDM. as far as "copyright" doesn't really apply here does it? Since the person who created this file doesn't own/hold any rights to this property. I will see about finding out who made it anyways just for attributions sake.--[[Stratohead|Stratohead]]
I pulled it down off of a costume/prop building site. I don't know who created the file originally. My intent was not for this to be used for anything more than a comparison of matching Colony Names to their appropriate Banners, to help illustrate the discussion(so you could see what I was talking about). (since their seems to be confusion about this all over the web.) And yes I am aware the names of a few  of the colonies are incorrect for RDM. as far as "copyright" doesn't really apply here does it? Since the person who created this file doesn't own/hold any rights to this property. I will see about finding out who made it anyways just for attributions sake.--[[User:Stratohead|Stratohead]]


:I think it's a little different than using image clips from galacticastation, since there really is some creative effort on the part of the artist. While the copyright might still belong to universal ultimately, it's a much more debateable situation than unmodified screen captures, and I'm uncomfortable hosting the image here without explicit permission from its creator. --[[User:Peter Farago|Peter Farago]] 11:20, 9 February 2006 (EST)
:I think it's a little different than using image clips from galacticastation, since there really is some creative effort on the part of the artist. While the copyright might still belong to universal ultimately, it's a much more debateable situation than unmodified screen captures, and I'm uncomfortable hosting the image here without explicit permission from its creator. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 11:20, 9 February 2006 (EST)


Understood. I can go ahead and recreate the image (and correct the names while I am at it) if I can get a consensus opinion on the banners matching the Colonys...would that work?--[[Stratohead|Stratohead]]
Understood. I can go ahead and recreate the image (and correct the names while I am at it) if I can get a consensus opinion on the banners matching the Colonys...would that work?--[[User:Stratohead|Stratohead]]


:I believe the image can be credited to 137thGebirg, from the Galactica Actual forum, but since that forum has been deleted, and I don't know of any way to contact him, I don't think we should use the image. --[[User:MASON|Mason]] 14:24, 9 February 2006 (EST)
:I believe the image can be credited to 137thGebirg, from the Galactica Actual forum, but since that forum has been deleted, and I don't know of any way to contact him, I don't think we should use the image. --[[User:MASON|Mason]] 14:24, 9 February 2006 (EST)
::I've seen this guy's work on the TrekBBS. He did both the ranks chart and this one. If I remember correctly, he was going to submit these here eventually. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 15:43, 9 February 2006 (EST)
:::If you would like to encourage the author to submit it here himself, that would be excellent, but in the meantime, the image should be deleted. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 21:34, 9 February 2006 (EST)
I can do that...and I understand your concerns...but what I am not getting from you guys is a simple answer to the real question I posed...which would be, Spelling of Colony Names aside, can we get an agreement that the banners match the Colonies? Seriously...a simple yes or no will suffice...I can create what ever imagery you want
but I need to be certain what name goes with which banner first.--[[User:Stratohead|Stratohead]]
:I believe the [[Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] should have the "latest and greatest" banner matchings (based on the magazine or guide or whatever). The "People from" categories still haven't been updated to reflect the changes made to that page, but I may knock that out right now. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:28, 10 February 2006 (EST)

Latest revision as of 00:17, 6 May 2021

What is the source of this? --April Arcus 18:07, 8 February 2006 (EST)

I also note that Aerelon, Canceron, Sagittaron, Aquaria, Picon, and Gemenon seem to be misspelled. --April Arcus 18:11, 8 February 2006 (EST)
Yes, very much so. This doesn't look reliable at all.--The Merovingian 18:15, 8 February 2006 (EST)
Strato did say "may be speculative" when he uploaded the image. --Kraetos 21:18, 8 February 2006 (EST)
We need to know the source for copyright purposes. --April Arcus 21:20, 8 February 2006 (EST)
He probably made it. Still, I wouldn't recommend using it anywhere, for that reason. --Kraetos 22:09, 8 February 2006 (EST)
If it's his, he needs to explicitly grant permission for us to use it on the description page. --April Arcus 02:33, 9 February 2006 (EST)
I believe this should be classified fan fiction, artful as it is. Names appear TOS but banners are RDM. I recommend we give the contributor a chance for the source, but put it on the clock with a deletion tag. --Spencerian 23:08, 8 February 2006 (EST)

I pulled it down off of a costume/prop building site. I don't know who created the file originally. My intent was not for this to be used for anything more than a comparison of matching Colony Names to their appropriate Banners, to help illustrate the discussion(so you could see what I was talking about). (since their seems to be confusion about this all over the web.) And yes I am aware the names of a few of the colonies are incorrect for RDM. as far as "copyright" doesn't really apply here does it? Since the person who created this file doesn't own/hold any rights to this property. I will see about finding out who made it anyways just for attributions sake.--Stratohead

I think it's a little different than using image clips from galacticastation, since there really is some creative effort on the part of the artist. While the copyright might still belong to universal ultimately, it's a much more debateable situation than unmodified screen captures, and I'm uncomfortable hosting the image here without explicit permission from its creator. --April Arcus 11:20, 9 February 2006 (EST)

Understood. I can go ahead and recreate the image (and correct the names while I am at it) if I can get a consensus opinion on the banners matching the Colonys...would that work?--Stratohead

I believe the image can be credited to 137thGebirg, from the Galactica Actual forum, but since that forum has been deleted, and I don't know of any way to contact him, I don't think we should use the image. --Mason 14:24, 9 February 2006 (EST)
I've seen this guy's work on the TrekBBS. He did both the ranks chart and this one. If I remember correctly, he was going to submit these here eventually. --Talos 15:43, 9 February 2006 (EST)
If you would like to encourage the author to submit it here himself, that would be excellent, but in the meantime, the image should be deleted. --April Arcus 21:34, 9 February 2006 (EST)


I can do that...and I understand your concerns...but what I am not getting from you guys is a simple answer to the real question I posed...which would be, Spelling of Colony Names aside, can we get an agreement that the banners match the Colonies? Seriously...a simple yes or no will suffice...I can create what ever imagery you want but I need to be certain what name goes with which banner first.--Stratohead

I believe the Twelve Colonies of Kobol should have the "latest and greatest" banner matchings (based on the magazine or guide or whatever). The "People from" categories still haven't been updated to reflect the changes made to that page, but I may knock that out right now. --Steelviper 11:28, 10 February 2006 (EST)