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Rather than "''the'' resistance group on Caprica," maybe "''a'' resistance group" would be better?
Rather than "''the'' resistance group on Caprica," maybe "''a'' resistance group" would be better?


Is there a definitive statement made in "Resistance" or "The Farm" that Anders' resistance group is the only one on Caprica?  If there isn't, there arguably may be others well outside the Delphi region and on other continents, with no way of knowing that other cells even exist, much less communicating with them.
Is there a definitive statement made in "Resistance" or "The Farm" that Anders' resistance group is the only one on Caprica?  If there isn't, there arguably may be others well outside the Delphi region and on other continents, with no way of knowing that other cells even exist, much less communicating with them. --[[User:BlueResistance|BlueResistance]] 14:57 EST, 9 Nov 2005
 
:My two cents...obviously Caprica is a big world with many places to hide or avoid the initial attack, as the Buccaneers did. And the Cylons obviously found plenty of survivors (albeit female--they may have culled the males or run human male farms!) to fill their farms. Despite the saturation nuclear bombing of the Twelve Colonies, large groups of humans are easy to nail, but individual humans are harder, and with their occupation and unknown plans for the Colonies themselves, the Cylons are not going to further destroy a colony with more nukes just to get rid of a handful of meddlesome humans. So they have to resort to eradication of these human "insurgents" as does our US military with managing Iraqi/Muslim/Ba'thist extremist insurgents. This takes time. Similar things are likely happening on the other colonies, given the laws of averages and luck, but since we don't know of them, and because ''Galactica'' only knows of the one resistance movement, IMHO, it's appropriate now to say "the resistance" or for clarity, "the Caprica resistance." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 16:17, 9 November 2005 (EST)
 
::There are probably scattered other holdouts of humans, of course.  This is just the one closest to Delphi, which was one of the handful of cities ''intentionally'' spared from nuking (I hate it when newbies on the messageboards keep going "Why is Delphi still there?  That's a plot hole!" when RDM said in the commentary that it was intentional, just unexplained.  Anyway, RDM has said that there were farms for both men and women, and on all colonies not just Caprica.  Of course, none of them work (though they keep trying).  --[[User:Ricimer|Ricimer]] 20:32, 9 November 2005 (EST)
 
== Name ==
 
I don't doubt that Anders means "man", but doesn't Anderson < Andrew's Son? Whether Andrew < Ander is another matter, but I thought this worth mentioning. Is this being too nitpickey? --[[User:Day|Day]] 00:34, 28 December 2005 (EST)
:Andrew and Anders both come from the greek word ''Andros'' which means "man." According to what I've read, Anders (the first name anyway) is the Scandinavian form of Andrew. Andros is where we get things like Alexander (Defender of Man) and Android (robot in form of man). So, they both mean the same thing anyway. --[[User:Talos|Talos]] 00:42, 28 December 2005 (EST)
::What's really coincidental is that I used to have a pet salamander by this name (a pun on "salamander"; there were worse ones, like Sir Isaac Newt, Silly Amanda, Newt York, Olivia Newt John, Fig Newt, etc. - I had about 20 of them, and they all had names like this, with Samuel Anders and Sal M. Anderson being pretty much the only plausible-sounding ones). Anyway, I totally cracked up when I heard this character's name. Every time I see him I think of a wiggly amphibian. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:SMcCandlish|SMcCandlish]]</span></b> &#91;[[User talk:SMcCandlish|talk]]&#93; &#91;[[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|cont]]&#93;  <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 10:04, 8 February 2008 (CST)
 
== Main Image ==
 
Perhaps it should be changed to one of Anders in uniform, now that he's joined the service? -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 10:28, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
: Agreed. Particularly since the picture's a bit fuzzy. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 11:10, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
:: I would go about finding a picture and making it the right size and putting it on Battlestar Wiki myself, but I have no idea how to do that. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 11:51, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
::: I, or someone else, could pull the picture from one of the later episodes. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 12:04, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
:::: Thank you. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 16:18, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 
The lighting of the new one could be better. It's hard to see his eyes. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 18:37, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
: Yeah, I definitely agree with you. However, the best screencap I could find was the one where Anders didn't have his shirt on (during his makeout session with Tory in the pilot's bunk). Otherwise, everything with a uniform is either in the darkness of the Big G, or in extreme close ups that, while show his eyes, don't show that he's got a uniform. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 18:51, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
:: So no one's made any screenshots where he's in the relatively well-lit hangar deck (pre-blackout) and the closeup isn't extreme. Darn. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 19:49, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
::: Problem is that most of the shots in the hangar bay were of side profiles, or were "over shoulder" or obfuscated due to the presence of people and the like. I think the best chance would be in Crossroads, Part I, in Joe's Bar, but since I don't have that episode, I wouldn't be able to capture anything. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 20:18, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
:::: I see. It would be very helpful of someone who has that episode, and knows how to make screen captures, to do so. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 22:05, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
 
== Hybrid Pic ==
 
Now that Anders has been plugged into Galactica, should we get a picture of him in his "hybrid form?" -[[User:Federationrulz|Federationrulz]] 13:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
:Only if we can get a pic of him in the bathtub as well. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] 14:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
 
==BCE==
 
Please, take note of [[Talk:Timeline_(RDM)#BCE_occurences|this issue]]. [[User:Str1977|Str1977]] 09:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:55, 31 March 2009

How many are there? (Just nitpicking)[edit]

Rather than "the resistance group on Caprica," maybe "a resistance group" would be better?

Is there a definitive statement made in "Resistance" or "The Farm" that Anders' resistance group is the only one on Caprica? If there isn't, there arguably may be others well outside the Delphi region and on other continents, with no way of knowing that other cells even exist, much less communicating with them. --BlueResistance 14:57 EST, 9 Nov 2005

My two cents...obviously Caprica is a big world with many places to hide or avoid the initial attack, as the Buccaneers did. And the Cylons obviously found plenty of survivors (albeit female--they may have culled the males or run human male farms!) to fill their farms. Despite the saturation nuclear bombing of the Twelve Colonies, large groups of humans are easy to nail, but individual humans are harder, and with their occupation and unknown plans for the Colonies themselves, the Cylons are not going to further destroy a colony with more nukes just to get rid of a handful of meddlesome humans. So they have to resort to eradication of these human "insurgents" as does our US military with managing Iraqi/Muslim/Ba'thist extremist insurgents. This takes time. Similar things are likely happening on the other colonies, given the laws of averages and luck, but since we don't know of them, and because Galactica only knows of the one resistance movement, IMHO, it's appropriate now to say "the resistance" or for clarity, "the Caprica resistance." --Spencerian 16:17, 9 November 2005 (EST)
There are probably scattered other holdouts of humans, of course. This is just the one closest to Delphi, which was one of the handful of cities intentionally spared from nuking (I hate it when newbies on the messageboards keep going "Why is Delphi still there? That's a plot hole!" when RDM said in the commentary that it was intentional, just unexplained. Anyway, RDM has said that there were farms for both men and women, and on all colonies not just Caprica. Of course, none of them work (though they keep trying). --Ricimer 20:32, 9 November 2005 (EST)

Name[edit]

I don't doubt that Anders means "man", but doesn't Anderson < Andrew's Son? Whether Andrew < Ander is another matter, but I thought this worth mentioning. Is this being too nitpickey? --Day 00:34, 28 December 2005 (EST)

Andrew and Anders both come from the greek word Andros which means "man." According to what I've read, Anders (the first name anyway) is the Scandinavian form of Andrew. Andros is where we get things like Alexander (Defender of Man) and Android (robot in form of man). So, they both mean the same thing anyway. --Talos 00:42, 28 December 2005 (EST)
What's really coincidental is that I used to have a pet salamander by this name (a pun on "salamander"; there were worse ones, like Sir Isaac Newt, Silly Amanda, Newt York, Olivia Newt John, Fig Newt, etc. - I had about 20 of them, and they all had names like this, with Samuel Anders and Sal M. Anderson being pretty much the only plausible-sounding ones). Anyway, I totally cracked up when I heard this character's name. Every time I see him I think of a wiggly amphibian. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 10:04, 8 February 2008 (CST)

Main Image[edit]

Perhaps it should be changed to one of Anders in uniform, now that he's joined the service? -- Noneofyourbusiness 10:28, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

Agreed. Particularly since the picture's a bit fuzzy. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 11:10, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
I would go about finding a picture and making it the right size and putting it on Battlestar Wiki myself, but I have no idea how to do that. -- Noneofyourbusiness 11:51, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
I, or someone else, could pull the picture from one of the later episodes. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 12:04, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
Thank you. -- Noneofyourbusiness 16:18, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

The lighting of the new one could be better. It's hard to see his eyes. -- Noneofyourbusiness 18:37, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, I definitely agree with you. However, the best screencap I could find was the one where Anders didn't have his shirt on (during his makeout session with Tory in the pilot's bunk). Otherwise, everything with a uniform is either in the darkness of the Big G, or in extreme close ups that, while show his eyes, don't show that he's got a uniform. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 18:51, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
So no one's made any screenshots where he's in the relatively well-lit hangar deck (pre-blackout) and the closeup isn't extreme. Darn. -- Noneofyourbusiness 19:49, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
Problem is that most of the shots in the hangar bay were of side profiles, or were "over shoulder" or obfuscated due to the presence of people and the like. I think the best chance would be in Crossroads, Part I, in Joe's Bar, but since I don't have that episode, I wouldn't be able to capture anything. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 20:18, 4 May 2007 (CDT)
I see. It would be very helpful of someone who has that episode, and knows how to make screen captures, to do so. -- Noneofyourbusiness 22:05, 4 May 2007 (CDT)

Hybrid Pic[edit]

Now that Anders has been plugged into Galactica, should we get a picture of him in his "hybrid form?" -Federationrulz 13:59, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Only if we can get a pic of him in the bathtub as well. -- Noneofyourbusiness 14:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

BCE[edit]

Please, take note of this issue. Str1977 09:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)Reply