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This template improves none of the articles it has been used on; it just combines a picture and some uninteresting details which can be quickly gleaned from the article text. --April Arcus 12:02, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- Though the template is used infequenlty for now, there is still more places tp be added. New Caprica, other things that and places that we might see during season 3. For someone who did not want to read the next but get the "description" they would had read this Data block. Data blocks are designed so people can get the full skippy about the location. If this were the case, I vote to delete the {{Character Data}} block because then people would have to read the article. Blocks are used as a reference to an item, not for sole use. --Shane (T - C - E) 12:10, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- None of our "location" articles are so long that this is helpful; and none of the factoids selected for the data box are interesting or comprehensive enough to give a meaningful overview. --April Arcus 12:21, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- It has been seen by the community. It has only been 1 day, and their was other edits to a page other than myself. So saying that it didn't have any "Uses" is bougs. --Shane (T - C - E) 12:23, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- That's reasonable. I've restored Cylon listening post to stand as an example while we discuss it. --April Arcus 13:04, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- It has been seen by the community. It has only been 1 day, and their was other edits to a page other than myself. So saying that it didn't have any "Uses" is bougs. --Shane (T - C - E) 12:23, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- None of our "location" articles are so long that this is helpful; and none of the factoids selected for the data box are interesting or comprehensive enough to give a meaningful overview. --April Arcus 12:21, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- I believe that the template might have uses in larger articles. There isn't anything stating, at all, that the template needs to be consistently applied to each and every article on locations in the BSG universes. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 13:22, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- I beleive you are misunderatnding on April's orginal ideas for the deletion are. --Shane (T - C - E) 13:27, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- One more example: Caroline Adama --Shane (T - C - E) 13:39, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- Perhaps I am, however as I read the discussion thus far, here's what I found. In April's reply to your comment regarding the {{Character Data}} template, they state: None of our "location" articles are so long that this is helpful. So, therefore, I recognize that April believes that the infoboxes on larger pages are helpful for summarizing noteworthy information. Obviously, more views on this issue would be quite helpful, and would probably help what kind of information should be in this infobox, as that is a concern April expressed as well. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 13:34, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- Your understanding is correct. I do happen to believe that the infoboxes on Caroline Adama and Scylla are probably superfluous, but at least they contain interesting information. All this template does as of now is specify the location's name, owner, function, and... recursively, location. Since all this information should be present in the lead paragraph anyway, I think the template as currently formulated is redundant at best, and encourages loose writing at worst. --April Arcus 14:02, 11 June 2006 (CDT)
- There does not seem tobe a concensous or any other objections so I have removed the delete status. --Shane (T - C - E) 19:51, 20 June 2006 (CDT)
For the record, I saw the location box, and was thankful that Shane tried it out to show us what it would look like; but I don't think it added anything to the text. This isn't like Star Trek where there's 100's of planets and we need easy references; anything could be just gleaned from the text. It was a good idea to try but I don't think we should use it...for now at least. --The Merovingian (C - E) 20:38, 24 June 2006 (CDT)
- It doesn't need to be deleted then. It just isn't used. --Shane (T - C - E) 16:31, 25 June 2006 (CDT)
Deletion 2
This template has remained on display for two weeks at Cylon listening post, and there hasn't been any movement on this discussion. I continue to maintain that this is not useful and should be deleted - if a need for a location box ever comes up in the future, it isn't exactly difficult to create a new template. Any comments before I revert Cylon listening post and delete this template? --April Arcus 01:32, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
- I agree. Perhaps, when the "Caprica" prequel gets into full swing, who knows? But even then...It's probable we won't need this. --The Merovingian (C - E) 01:39, 28 June 2006 (CDT)
- It seems to me like this could very well be a good thing for the future. However at the moment there is not sufficient information to do these kinds of pages. Like Merv says, when "Caprica" begins a template such as this could be very useful indeed. I am torn between deleting then waiting to see if its needed later on and re-making this or just keeping it. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 03:12, 28 June 2006 (CDT)