Talk:Weapons in the Re-imagined Series/Archive 1

Discussion page of Weapons in the Re-imagined Series/Archive 1

Future of KEW article

With this new page, I wonder what should happen with the KEW article. I copied the "autocannon" section there and also wanted to copy the "point defense" section. But then the article would be useless and could be deleted (KEW could be redirect here).

Or should we only summarize those two sections and include a "See main article link" to there? --Serenity 12:36, 10 January 2007 (CST)

My first reaction is to make KEW redirect here. Is there any information there that isn't shown here or more specific articles? "KEW" is just too broad. --Spencerian 13:00, 10 January 2007 (CST)
As said, if I copy the "point defense" part as well, there is nothing there anymore. It also has a bit about the main guns, but with Battery that's redundant. --Serenity 13:05, 10 January 2007 (CST)
All the more reason to cease KEW. I feel centralization of all ship weapons but sidearms would be preferable. Your call. --Spencerian 13:44, 10 January 2007 (CST)
Alright, I'll do that. What should I do with the talk page? Move it here? I can't use the normal move function since this page already exists, but I could copy-paste it. --Serenity 14:06, 10 January 2007 (CST)
Normally we just let it go in cases like this unless there are very significant discussions that are critical to the article's existence. In this case, a summary that tells the result of the merge and why it occurred (which in turn is a summary of the consensus from the old talk pages) should be fine. No need to horde that stuff. --Spencerian 14:29, 10 January 2007 (CST)

Explosives and rocket launchers

Plastic explosives like G-4 have been used on numerous occassions in different forms, ranging from larger blocks to small chunks used to open doors. And in "Exodus, Part I" we see the Marines taking out Centurions with an RPG (rocket propelled grenade).
Do these fall under "small arms"? According to Wikipedia RPGs can fall under that term, but it doesn't seem like explosives do. Should we stick to that and create a seperate "explosives" section or add it as sub-section of "small arms". The latter is probably better, given the overall structure of the article (and after all they did keep it in the small arms locker).
But the obvious solution would be calling it "Small arms and explosives". Duh :)

I'll wait with adding the normal rifles and pistols here though, until the controvery about the small arms article is solved. Alternatively, if it turns out that a seperate small arms article specifically for an in-universe POV is created, the RPG could be added to that. --Serenity 08:28, 11 January 2007 (CST)

If I remember correctly, it's not an RPG in Exodus, but a light anti-tank missile. I need to get a pic of it before I can be sure though. AT missiles are considered crew-served weapons if they are larger than, say, an M72 LAW. --Talos 10:51, 11 January 2007 (CST)
Maybe it falls more into the larger "shoulder launched weapons"/"anti tank guided missile" category, but RPGs are anti-tank weapons, although they are used against more lightly armored vehicles instead of MBTs these days. Originally the acronym comes from Russian and stands for "handheld anti-tank grenade-launcher". Picture is here btw.
All in all, while it technically probably doesn't belong into "small arms", I guess it's better to stick it there for simpilicity and maybe make a note about that, instead of creating an own header for a weapon that has only been seen once so far. --Serenity 11:04, 11 January 2007 (CST)
Soviet RPGs are an unusual case because they are considered personel weapons in the old Soviet army, soldiers would carry ones as their weapon instead of a rifle. Some western RPGs are crew-served though. Just by memory, the rocket in Exodus looked like a SMAW, but I need a picture to identify it (hint to anyone with it from iTunes). --Talos 11:07, 11 January 2007 (CST)
Maybe a "support weapon" section would work, this could also include any future machine guns and such we see. --Talos 11:08, 11 January 2007 (CST)