Talk:Rapture/Archive 1

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I think it's time to replace Universal logo with a promotional photo. The question is: with which one? My vote goes here. -- Spike 05:36, 23 December 2006 (CST)

Ditto. Make sure it's uploaded to the Media wiki properly first. Shane ^{(T - C - E)} 07:11, 23 December 2006 (CST)

It already is. Its used on the Final five page. --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 11:06, 23 December 2006 (CST)

Ever notice how prevalent the Universal logo is on all of their products? It's particularly annoying when watching the Season One DVDs. They finally started cutting it from in front of individual episodes on the 2.5 discs. The logo is down-right... universal. --Slander 08:51, 8 January 2007 (CST)

(referring to the picture) So this is where some of the members of the Grey Council went after Delenn dissolved it... -- Joe Beaudoin ^{So say we all - Donate} 18:11, 31 December 2006 (CST)

Yeah. Better gig. Far more lighting. Sexier minions to grovel at your feet, too. --Spencerian 01:22, 1 January 2007 (CST)

Mmm. Minions. The twenty-first cannot come soon enough. --Slander 08:49, 8 January 2007 (CST)

13 days, 10 hours, 31 minutes :( --BklynBruzer 10:28, 8 January 2007 (CST)

My Predictions

Here's what I think we'll see tonight:

• Helo kills Athena so she can download and get Hera from the Cylons.
• Dualla goes Starbuck-hunting with Anders. They fall for each other, thus neatly wrapping up the Starbuck/Apollo/Anders/Dee love rectangle.
• Bill Adama nukes the bejeezus out of the algae planet. Chief, Cally, Barolay, and Bendis die. Everyone else makes it out on a heavy raider.
• The Final Five: Starbuck, Anders, Billy, Johnny Five, and Galvatron.
• Guest appearances by the SuicideGirls.

All of the above predictions are pulled directly from the darkest reaches of my rectum and should not be taken seriously. --Slander 14:17, 21 January 2007 (CST)

1st idea: might actually possibly work even though it won't happen. 2nd: Good idea, actually. 3rd: Naw. 4th: Bahahahahaha. 5th: I wish. --BklynBruzer 14:34, 21 January 2007 (CST)

As they say on the forums, Galvatron ftw. --Peter Farago 15:57, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Slander, I have an idea to make it even better. Option 3, take the "it" out of the 3rd sentence. --BklynBruzer 16:26, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Anders and Apollo making out? Hey, it could happen. They're both very pretty and Bamber is English. That's close enough to being a girl. And, hey, we'd get to see the inside of a heavy raider. --Slander 17:46, 21 January 2007 (CST)

HOLY FRAK, SLANDER! HOW DID YOU KNOW?! --BklynBruzer 21:09, 21 January 2007 (CST)

Chamalla tastes good with Swiss Miss. (Also, the Final Five member that D'anna apologizes to? Totally Galvatron.) --Slander 08:34, 22 January 2007 (CST)

Also also, how'd y'all like those SuicideGirls cameos? Eh? Eh? --Slander 08:36, 22 January 2007 (CST)

The Final Five person D'anna talked to was Galvatron, the other 4 were SuicideGirls. --BklynBruzer 08:42, 22 January 2007 (CST)

Concerning religion of the cylons and the colonies

Keeping Ron Moore's twists and turns from the original series I would like to suggest that the Lords of Kobol and the "jealous" god, are for all intensive purposes the Cylons. They are modeled after and therefore more directly linked to the deities say than Adama is "being Zeus" among the humans. So much so that specific units have become avatars, perhaps posessed of a lord or at the very least evolving an actual soul in likeness of a lord.

12 cylons = 12 olympians Final Five - Temple of Five

The mystery of the final five hints to them being something other that the existing models. Perhaps these five could not be replicated like the others because of their conflict with the cylon god.

Clearly a more human "being" is developing in Deana in her search for enlightenment, in Caprica in her search for Love and in Sharon in her self acceptance. With Deanna the search for enlightenment became so overpweing the entire line was boxed. With Sharon it's almost as if the humanity Boomer clung to has moved to Agathon. Boomer is not the woman that would not leave her human apartment after resurrecting, but both have in their own fashion esentially accepted who they are. Caprica appears in a constant state of conflict that many humans will relate to, while her etherial counterpart is the self assured herald of her cylon maker.

For all the pagan references in the original series we still had Count Iblis and the ship of lights taking on very familliar christan concepts of angels and satan. Nothing is ever quite that black and white in the reimagined series.

While the reference has been fleeting, the notion of a god outside the Lords of Kobol is clear, and he would be the cylons god. Dodona Selloi seems to refer to the cylon god as nothing more or less than a lord of kobol. My thought is that somehow this jealous god has sort of ensnared the likeness perhaps even conciousness of the lords in creating the cylon race, so closely that single copies become avatars of the lords. The final five could be so possesed that they are not part of the cylon race, refusing the mechanations of the cylon god. Others an avatar is what we see developing in Sharon, Deanna and Caprica.

And even the cylon god, the Count Iblis whose voice was that of the imperious leader in the original series has a model: Brother Cavel. Cavel is horribly wicked, he is always urging his fellow cylons to the most horrific of actions. He appears out of nowhwere all the time. And yet, strangely, he seems to honor the importance of free will in his dealings with his brother cylons, something you would expect of an Abrahamic god. He's not Satan then who would rather rule in hell than serve in heaven, he is just far more satanic or evil than any characterization offered by a member of a known pantheon of gods.

Yet another twist, If the Abrahmic god were competing with beings like himself (greek gods), how satanic might he appear? An abrahamic god accepts free will: I can't make you worship me. But is flawed like miltons Satan, if you don't worship me , your damned. Satans flaw in paradise lost was saying better to rull in hell than serve in heaven. What he should have said was better to live free on earth not rule in hell. So Cavel is a marvelous blend of an Abrahamic God & Satan floating through space in a base ship with 7 of 12 would be Olympians. Caprica Aphrodite, Sharon Athena and Deanna Hestia?. Starbuck/Artemis is the next to come forward? Adama and Laura and Zeus and Hera? two reason for two of the final five to stay where they are. They have human avatars leading the fleet. Three male cylons just go with the flow, well the male gods were always kind of boring anyway. At least if your a fan of Wonder Woman.

The twist from original series to re-imagined series are always surprising and wonderful in many ways. In the world of Sci Fi televison, the original Galactica made huge advances by considering the existence of higher beings. Where would the Ancients of Stargate or the Vorlons of Babylon be without Battlestar Galactica? Will we see actual communion with higher beings in the re-imagined series? I don't expect to. It would gnaw at the the gritty realism of the show.

The idea of this entire exodus from the colonies seeking earth, unifying to a new Kobol, then breaking off back to earth and the colonies over and over seems entirely plausible. Gods are at the very least real in a metaphoirical sense and 12 cylon models living in peace with a vast race of humans on new a Kobol in the end sounds far more believeable than actual gods and godesses. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mevenstar (talk • contribs).

Dualla's partner?

The summary mentions Dualla's partner being an unnamed civvie, but I thought it looked like Sergeant Fischer (Aleks Paunovic). I'll check the Sadgeezer transcript (as soon as it is posted). --Steelviper 09:26, 23 January 2007 (CST)

Sooner Rather Than / Or Later?

• The Cylons are relieved as well, but after the Three in the command room leaves in satisfaction, the others realize that the Cylon, a race predicated on consensus and not defiance or distinctive personality clashes, have a serious problem. A Cavil voices that the Threes are out of control, and that a decision regarding their actions must be made, sooner or later.

I recalled that line as "sooner, rather than later," implying that the other models were already considering boxing the Threes. Am I loosing my mind, or did I hear that right? --Saiboogu 01:35, 24 January 2007 (CST)

That's what I heard too. Or "maybe sooner, rather than later". --Galactageek 01:41, 24 January 2007 (CST)