Talk:Donald Perry/Archive 1: Difference between revisions

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What's a "Boonie Jumper"

A google search reveals only links to here and a couple of other places, none of which explain the term. Should we keep the "Edit" link live on the term (hoping that it will be explained at a later time), and add a live link on Kat's page, or kill the link and just assume it is some sort of derrogatory term used by Viper pilots (along with "shuttle jockeys"). --Steelviper 16:25, 1 December 2005 (EST)

My theory: "Boonie Jumper" = "One who only does smalltime FTL Jump missions of a pedestrian nature done by simple civilian ships, operating in the "Boondocks" of space". "The Boonies" of course means "The Boondocks", a.k.a. the periphery, a.k.a. middle-of-nowhere, a.k.a. town with one dog perpetually lying in the middle of the only road. I think the term just is a clipped way of saying "someone who performs Jumps that are of a milk-run status, out in the boonies". --Ricimer 18:23, 2 December 2005 (EST)

It's definitely a contracted form of "boondock puddle jumper." "Boondock" is defined as mentioned previously. "Puddle jumper" is a somewhat derogatory term for charter pilots of small (Cesna-like) craft and such craft in the real world. The idea is that they fly small trips, puddles not being very large. It also sort of evokes the idea of a bush pilot flying over lakes in Alaska or the like. If you're a fan of Stargate Atlantis as well, you might recall the spacecraft class named Puddle jumper for the same reasons. I'm about the remove the linked-ness of the term, as it's clear enough and unambiguous, purely real-world, and a random phrase, not a term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puddle_jumper should make this yet more clear if you don't believe me. --CalculatinAvatar 02:04, 28 December 2005 (EST)

- No, it is definately not. "Jumper" probably just refers to their Jump engines. It was a leap of faith to assume that this is a reference to "Puddle Jumpers". Further, the "gateships" on Stargate Atlantis are referred to as "Puddle Jumpers" as well, and this link only created confusion. I am removing it. My explanation on 2 December sums up my thoughts on ths subject. --The Merovingian 15:20, 9 February 2006 (EST)

Two Perrys?

In regards to Perry possibly being selected as CAG, you need to remember that Chuckles was one of the first nuggets qualified for Galactica's Viper Squadron. It's possible that this seniority and good flying skills (unseen on the series) might have led to his consideration as new CAG. You have to remember that Apollo and Starbuck were gone, so seniority didn't necessarily lead to CAG selection. Tigh didn't exactly agree with Birch being chosen.

The Gideon incident with "Hammerhead" might have cut him out of the running for CAG, despite him being a senior officer (he was in the senior officer quarters in Final Cut). Other such incidents or silent protest due to Apollo joining Roslin could have led to other senior pilots not being considered.

Then again, maybe Mueller and Perry were two of the last names on the list by the time the scene from Home (1) was shown which is why a nugget was suggested to be CAG. Ltcrashdown December 23, 2005

The most damning thing with regard to nugget Perry and potential-CAG Perry being the same person is that of all the pilots seen injured in Hand of God, Perry's death is most clearly depicted. His cockpit, pressure suit and body are all punctured by the same bullet or piece of shrapnel, he is shown on-screen succumbing to asphyxiation, and Stepchild immediately announces that he has "bought it". In order to survive, he would need to 1.) resume consciousness, 2.) recover control of his Viper, 3.) escape the battle, and 4.) survive his chest wound. I find this grossly implausible. --Peter Farago 20:52, 23 December 2005 (EST)

I also agree that this is ridiculous. Maybe the writer for Home (1) messed up when he referred to Perry. The only reason I am sticking to this is because Chuckles is never referred to as 'Perry' except in the closing credits, and it's unlikely that Galactica would have two pilots with the last name Perry. I'll agree to let this go until we have more information. Ltcrashdown December 23, 2005

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 * It's definitely a contracted form of "boondock puddle jumper." "Boondock" is defined as mentioned previously. "Puddle jumper" is a somewhat derogatory term for charter pilots of small (Cesna-like) craft and such craft in the real world. The idea is that they fly small trips, puddles not being very large. It also sort of evokes the idea of a bush pilot flying over lakes in Alaska or the like. If you're a fan of Stargate Atlantis as well, you might recall the spacecraft class named Puddle jumper for the same reasons. I'm about the remove the linked-ness of the term, as it's clear enough and unambiguous, purely real-world, and a random phrase, not a term. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puddle_jumper should make this yet more clear if you don't believe me. --[[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] 02:04, 28 December 2005 (EST)
+**No, it is ''definately'' not.  "Jumper" probably just refers to their ''Jump'' engines.  It was a leap of faith to assume that this is a reference to "Puddle Jumpers".  Further, the "gateships" on Stargate Atlantis are referred to as "Puddle Jumpers" as well, and this link only created confusion.  I am removing it.  My explanation on 2 December sums up my thoughts on ths subject. --[[User:The Merovingian|The Merovingian]] 15:20, 9 February 2006 (EST)
 ==Two Perrys?==