Talk:Cylon Attack/Archive 1

Is this article necessary?

The Fall of the Twelve Colonies article gives greater detail and clarity of what occurs. This wouldn't mean we shouldn't use "Cylon Attack" as a redirect since typing "Fall of the Twelve Colonies" is a pain. For the TOS, I recommend it be redirected to this page, but the RDM stuff can be removed, or, we direct it to the Battle of Cimtar page. To get everyone's attention, I may add a delete tag later if I haven't heard comments. --Spencerian 11:08, 15 December 2005 (EST)

Wow. That IS a tangled web. I agree that this article is pretty redundant on the RDM side (with that excellent Fall of the Twelve Colonies to fall back on). It would be a much simpler matter if this article wasn't linked to so often. It looks like there are a LOT more links from the RDM side that the TOS side. So perhaps a "Cylon Attack (TOS)" could be created that contains the original TOS content of this page (Battle of Cimtar is a little barren), then once the TOS pages are pointed at the new link we could make Cylon Attack redirect to "Fall of the Twelve Colonies." --Steelviper 11:54, 15 December 2005 (EST)

I agree; this page has no real use. We should just merge the TOS content into a Battle of Cimtar article. --Peter Farago 14:31, 15 December 2005 (EST)

No. "Fall of the Twelve Colonies" covers the battle part, but in terms of the overall effect this page covers that; it's just such a big event that it deserves its' own page. It's sort of the de fact page for "Second Cylon War" which should not be an actual term. Of course THE Cylon Attack ended, but it's still part of an ongoing effort. That and many pages link here, and it would be a little clunky to insert the other one into everything. I don't really think it's hurting anything and think it should stay. --Ricimer 15:17, 15 December 2005 (EST)

It's confusing and redundant, which hurts our usability. --Peter Farago 15:27, 15 December 2005 (EST)

Does the "Second Cylon War" deserve it's own page? I think what we were proposing before was just a redirect (instead of inserting the other one into everything). However, if we separate out the "Second Cylon War" as a different page, we would have to find all the "Cylon Attack" links that meant "Second Cylon War" and not "Fall of the Twelve Colonies". --Steelviper 16:01, 15 December 2005 (EST)

I propose this--

• Cylon Attack will redirect to Fall of the Twelve Colonies
• A disambig link on "Fall" for those looking for the Battle of Cimtar, the Cylon attack of TOS, which should be Cylon Attack (TOS).

The Second Cylon War page is even more redundant than this one, I agree. The two need not exist and should redirect to a single page. The Fall page is more dramatic, detailed, and very consise. We can keep "Cylon Attack" as good shorthand, but they should direct to an RDM or TOS page, and the RDM side does not need three pages as it stands now. --Spencerian 17:08, 15 December 2005 (EST)

Look, it's a good "Shorthand" page and should stay. However there doesn't need to be a "Second Cylon War" page, I already covered that with just a ("or, technically, the second Cylon War") but no one EVER calls it that. I mean technically it IS, and for purposes of battle pages I wrote that down, but it doesn't need it's own page. --Ricimer 19:34, 15 December 2005 (EST) Remember, remember, the Fifth of November...

Agreeing with Spencerian's proposal. --Peter Farago 19:36, 15 December 2005 (EST)

Merge Attempt Made For TOS content

I merged the info from the Cylon Attack into the Battle of Cimtar (TOS). I think it contains everything from the "attack" page, and really livens that page up. If that looks ok to everyone, then we could clear the TOS content off of the Cylon Attack (once I changed all the TOS links to go to Battle of Cimtar) and we'd only be dealing with the Fall of the Colonies vs Second Cylon War issue. I started a discussion over at Talk:Battle of Cimtar (TOS) if you want to weigh in on that specific page. --Steelviper 16:29, 15 December 2005 (EST)