Talk:Pegasus (episode)/Archive 1

For some reason, I'm really excited about this episode. Kuralyov 01:28, 29 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Oh, great. Now it appears that whatever is SPAMing us with ad links got a user name: "Boomer". Although I think it might be possible for a zombie computer to do this, I'm leaning towards the idea that it's an actual person. They must be subjected to live unsedated vivisection. ---Ricimer 25 Aug 2005

Yeah, this is a real person. But they are likely still controlling another computer to do it. There are a few ways to go about reducing this stuff, but what I really don't get is that some yahoo actually wastes their time spamming a board that has thousands--THOUSANDS--of people who read and edit it deily, eliminating their "work" in seconds. They're wasting their time more than they get on our nerves. Spencerian 21:02, 25 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Kuralyov, Did you move the "proposed episode" stuff to another article, or just delete it? It should definitely be somewhere here. --Fang Aili 08:25, 14 September 2005 (EDT)

• I deleted it. It's completely, and I mean completely, irrelevant to this episode. It belongs on the page for the original Living Legend episodes, if at all. Kuralyov 16:35, 17 September 2005 (EDT)

There is a picture of the Mercury-class Battlestar in the preview after Flight of the Phoenix. We need a shot of Pegasus here on the page! Spencerian 15:46, 17 September 2005 (EDT)

• I noticed they still don't have the trailer up on the SciFi BSG page. Kuralyov 16:35, 17 September 2005 (EDT)
• It was put up on SciFi approximately 2-3 days before the episode. Mildly annoying. Sgtpayne 10:27 EDT, 24 September 2005

Did you notice Pegasus advertised as the Season Finale of Galactica on SciFi channel last night? Did they split the run of 20 into two seasons? John Reese

• On closer study, it said "Summer Finale." No idea what that means. John Reese

How many times must we re-explain this? A normal season for a show on Scifi (Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, etc) has 20 episodes. What they do is they take the first half of these and run them during summer, then run the second half during February-May. ***They've done this for like 4-5 years now. --->What may confuse you is that their advertisements in commercials refer to it as a "summer season finale". That's just a marketing ploy. One Scifi Channel fans are all used to. Season 1 only had 13 episodes so they didn't do that then, but it's going to be in this new format forever. ---Ricimer, 17 Sept, 2005

Any guesses what the mystery Cylon ship is for? Danaucpe

• My guess is that its a Super Basestar--a ship so massive that it can create Basestars from natural resources of rocky planets. Whatever it is, it will take the combined forces of Pegasus and Galactica to take it down. Spencerian 02:10, 24 September 2005 (EDT)
• That is, of course, if they can get past the two Basestars & various support craft mentioned in Pegasus. The only reason that the Basestar went down in Kobol's Last Gleaming is through sheer cunning (even part of which may be suspect, seeing as Boomer is a Humano-Cylon). Sgtpayne 10:11 EDT, 24 September 2005

Any thoughts as to if the Blackbird is jump capable? Sgtpayne

• That's a good point - it'd have to be if it was going to jump to the location of the Cylon fleet, but we know that normal Vipers aren't jump-capable, and I imagine that a ship equipped with FTL wouldn't be as stealthy or speedy as the Blackbird apparently is...Kuralyov 13:40, 24 September 2005 (EDT)
  • I already updated "Blackbird" to say that it is presumably Jump capable, which makes sense if it's a stealth ship; if it has to be launched from a Battlestar that's not very stealthy because Battlestars are easy to see on DRADIS. It uses different engines which might be capable of limited Jumps. ---Ricimer, 24 Sept, 2005

Summaries vs Speculation

We're all anticipating these episodes, of course. It's important to note that rumors, speculation and other unaired hearsay about this episode is not fit for summary entries. The summary is the factual summation of the aired content. If the episode has yet to air, then it is best to place only the information that could be confirmed from the official Sci-Fi Channel preview (being careful not to intepret it literally since they are always out of context) or official information from RDM himself. There was an entry of Cain's demise and Adama's rank change in this episode, while we also have similar information in the later ep, Resurrection Ship. Neither can both be right, so we need to wait until we have verified information, which, if the pattern continues from other eps, only happen when the episode airs. Rumors can be placed here in Talk at any time, but you may want to state your source. Spencerian 11:24, 19 September 2005 (EDT)

• Source of Spoiler [Cain's demise and Adama's rank change to Admiral] podcast http://podcasts.lvrocks.com/details.aspx?castid=5 (9-7-2005) Second half of podcast about (1hr 6mins) into podcast.

• Other podcasts have some interviews with Battlestar cast memebrs i.e (8-10-2005) (9-14-2005) etc

Thanks. Who made this podcast? Normally we take just RDM's and David Eick's podcasts and videos as official, so cast member comments may or may not be accurate if RDM and Co. have to adjust schedules, episode airings and stuff. Can you elaborate? If you want to add the stuff I took off back in the meantime, please feel free--I'm not the police or anything; I just want to ensure we keep things to a credible-enough source. Spencerian 14:35, 21 September 2005 (EDT)

Philwelch & Ricimer

On 20:26, 24 September 2005, Philwelch posted the following to the Analysis section:

• Aside from Cain herself, the crew of the Pegasus seems exclusively male. No other female crew members are ever shown, and the behavior of the drunken Pegasus crewmen isn't what we may expect from men who are accustomed to being around women. This may be a contributing factor to the behavior of the Pegasus 's crew—if they travelled through space as long as they did, believing they were the remainder of humanity, Cain's power over the crew would have been more than merely military in nature—as the only surviving human woman, Cain would hold absolute sexual power over her crew as well. In addition, the lack of women aboard the Pegasus and the resulting sexual frustration could have led to the overly regimented, authoritarian, and brutal culture the crew developed, culminating in the senseless, repeated gang rape of the Cylon prisoner Gina.
• It is interesting how the portrayal of Cally's killing Galactica-Boomer in "Resistance" contrasts with the portrayal of the brutalized Gina and the attempted rape of Boomer.

On 20:53, 24 September 2005, Ricimer reverted it with the comments:

speculation; yes, there are female Pegasus crewmen seen in halls. and Cally's retirement f G-Boomer doesn't really contrast with the rape scenes here.

Ricimer, I found those contributions to be interesting and valid, and would appreciate it if, in the future, you would amend them with your objections rather than deleting them outright. --Peter Farago 17:00, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

I've added a rebuttal of sorts to the former contribution, as I find it (to be frank) preposterous... although I am wary of seeing an encyclopedic page turn into a debate, it rather bothered me to see it there, so I added another view. ~ Aero 18:48, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

We can always refactor the argument and clean it up. I do consider it notable that aside from the Admiral, there are no female crewmembers on Pegasus with speaking roles in this episode. --Peter Farago 19:50, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

I picked up most of the idea from the Scifi.com forums, although it had occurred to me. If it was unintentional, then why not throw a woman in the background of the Pegasus CIC, or into the ready room? Why write the Pegasus deck gang as a group of crude gang rapists? Listen to the dialogue in that scene—that's *not* how men usually speak in mixed company, and the fact that they do speak that way in mixed company suggests they've forgotten how to act around women. I also find it amazing how many of us aren't quite as shocked at Boomer getting shot to death as we are at Boomer getting pinned down and almost raped by Lieutenant Thorne. The reason for that is probably that killing a Cylon has some sort of purpose, while raping one is just a sick and twisted way to cause pointless suffering. As for Ricimer, his edit warring and irrational vendetta against me must give some meaning to his life but I've learned to pretty much ignore him. Philwelch 22:00, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

Please, no ad hominem attacks either. --Peter Farago 22:10, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

Men don't act that way in mixed company? Must be I've been in college too long.. >_> ~ Aero 22:44, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

If the other guys at your college boast about what a girl's face looks like when they gang rape her, I suggest you transfer. Philwelch 23:31, 24 September 2005 (EDT)

That's not precisely what I meant... you miss my point, although I guess you do so intentionally. Chill. ~ Aero 00:52, 25 September 2005 (EDT)