Talk:Cylon homeworld/Archive 1

If the Cylon homeworld's location is known, would there be an offensive against it to end the second Cylon war after The Fleet finds Earth? -- John-1107 21:46, 21 January 2006 (EST)

Far too generic. Implied that if ever the humans survive out in space to make new colonies, find Earth, whatever, the Cylons fear that, human nature being what it is, they will return one day to take revenge, as stated in the miniseries. "One Day", as in "generations from now". Not in their lifetime, no. One or two battlestars against the entire Cylon fleet? Impossible. --Ricimer 12:19, 23 January 2006 (EST)

Could it be assumed that it is a largely marine world? Or similar to the one in "Water". Lots of clues lead us to this 1)Cylon bodies can withstand immense water pressure 2)Cylon Biomech appears to derive certain aspects from deep sea marine life, including, probably, its independancy from solar energy I dunno, just a suggestion, cuz its hinted I believe. Also their tech looks very marine as well.--Sauron18 20 February 2006

The homeworld's specific location isn't known, but we take Gaeta's comment that the Colonials had a general idea. As far as the "marine world" idea: It's likely as hospitable as they needed it to be. Remember that the original Cylons that the humans fought were mechanical; they could use practically any planet that their hardware could withstand; it need not necessarily be an Earth-like planet just because the Cylons also have humanoid models (which likely appeared long after their migration). Further, we know that the Cylon agents can do superhuman feats such as strength, so while their bodies appear human, there is still a machine element there that gives them superhuman abilities; no water necessarily required. I don't know of any solar energy requirements either noted in the series inferred or expressed; the Cylon agent appears to work with the same foodstuffs as humans, and Centurions are powered on whatever they're powered on. --Spencerian 22:37, 20 February 2006 (EST)

I see no reason to think it's a marine world whatsoever; they can withstand high water pressure just because (it's already been established) they're stronger than humans, and the other stuff is just speculation. We can't really make any productive speculation on the Cylon homeworld at this point. --The Merovingian 23:05, 20 February 2006 (EST)

I wasn't actually suggesting we post any of it, I was just pondering on what it could be. I do hope that with Season 3 more clues will be given, the most clear clue would be about the climate (depending on how Cylons adjust to New Caprica), but we can only wait. --Sauron18 25 March 2006

Twelve Colonies in download range of Cylon homeworld?

"the Twelve Colonies themselves do appear to be in normal downloading-range from the Cylon homeworld ("Resurrection Ship, Part I," "Scar")." Perhaps I'm just being forgetful, but I admit I don't recall anything saying or implying that, even when concentrating on those episodes. --CalculatinAvatar 13:05, 1 April 2006 (CST)

From the Miniseries straight through the end of season two, Cylons have downloaded normally on Caprica. Even after the Ressurection Ship was destroyed. Plus, Baltar said that they made it because Galactica and Pegasus had gone so far out into deep space; i.e. they didn't need it around the Twelve Colonies. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 13:14, 1 April 2006 (CST)

The resurrection ship that was destroyed could have been around the Twelve Colonies until they set up facilities on the colonies (which seem to be there based on Downloaded). The idea they made it on the fly after the battlestars went far out seems farfetched to me based on design and construction times, even for Cylons; the idea they foresaw the flight of the battlestars seems unlikely to me as well. --CalculatinAvatar 13:51, 1 April 2006 (CST)

No, the Cylons did not forsee or plan the escape of the Battlestars. No, it's just assumption in "Downloaded" that the transmission facilities are on Caprica itself, and "Downloaded" actually does not further that theory. Based on Baltar's clear dialog in "Resurrection Ship, part I", the 12 Colonies are in range of the Cylon homeworld. --The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 15:00, 1 April 2006 (CST)

Additional: "Baltar: The Cylons call this their resurrection ship. At the moment, we are too far away from the Cylon home for the normal downloading process to work, which is why they built this ship." The Cylons built the Resurrection Ship when Galactica went so far away from the Twelve Colonies that they passed out of range of the Cylon homeworld, meaning that the Colonies themselves are actually in range.--The Merovingian ^{(C - E)} 15:09, 1 April 2006 (CST)

This was my impression as well, although I admit that the evidence is a bit thin. --Peter Farago 20:05, 1 April 2006 (CST)

Baltar is known for not exactly talking too well. There is no clue to suggest that the 12 colonies are near the Homeworld. In fact, the distance from it is probably why they built the ship in the first place, for the attack. They wouldn't build an uber ship with thousands of spare bodies for around a dozen Cylons. They now download in Caprica because they probably established centers there now. --Sauron18 7 April 2006

To add further proof that it is not a safe statement:

"Baltar: The Cylons call this their resurrection ship. At the moment, we are too far away from the Cylon home for the normal downloading process to work, which is why they built this ship. It contains the entire apparatus necessary for Cylon resurrection. Now this ship has been traveling with the fleet trailing Galactica for the last several months "

1)Gina has been on Pegasus since the attack, yet she recognized the ship, this wouldn't be possible if it is as you say. 2)Gina fully expected to have been reborn in the Resurrection Ship. For all she knew they could be within a few miles of the Colonies, and yet said the Ship would revive her. 3)Baltar said that it had been trailing the fleet the last several months, leaving even less time for the Cylons to build a ship this size, which is, inevitably, quite impossible. 4)The only thing that suggests he's talking about only the fleet being too far away is "at the moment", and that is simply to obscure to assume it means the Colonies are close enough. 5)In "Downloaded" we see Six download into a chamber. RDM has stated we won't see their homeworld in a while, eliminating that location, and it was too soon to have a chamber in Caprica. This leaves only the option of the Resurrection Ship, since it would act as the safety net for the Cylon Attack.

These are my 5 main proofs against the assumption that they are close enough to the colonies. Aside from this, I can only ask that you use logic, which would dicate that a ship this size would not be created: a)In a matter of 1 or 2 months. or b)Solely for around 12 Agents (carrying the bodies of thousands)

I hope you see what I see--Sauron18 7 April 2006