User talk:Hunter2005

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Recent Rollback

Hunter2005, I felt it necessary to roll back your last contribution to the article, Cylon agent. There is no aired information I can recall that supports your speculation about apparent age and downloading pain, and we truly do not know the cause of the pain that the Cavils have in relation to other models that may have had more or fewer downloads. Please see the policy on unsupported speculation for more on why I believed the contribution was not germane. If you have a specific aired source or reference, please readd the comment but note the source as a footnote. --Spencerian 07:12, 11 December 2006 (CST)

• I just saw this is why I took so long to respond. Spencerian, perhaps at the time it was speculation, and it was, but I never meant for it to be purported as a fact. I did qualify it. I do think that since the Cavils are the oldest appearing model and since one of the units of that model was the only one thus far to complain of the increasing pain of resurrection it is a reasonable possibility that it is age related. The one on New Caprica on Colonial One said that after the third time downloading it "..felt like a red hot poker in his brain" IIRC, I think it is a reasonable leap to say that perhaps it is age related. In the interim since that scene and since you have removed my speculation, we have learned that D'anna Biers (and I believe it was the reporter from "Final Cut" and not any old Three) has been repeatedly "killing" and downloading herself, well past the three times that that "red hot poker" pain that Cavil unit suffered supposed to have kicked in I would surmise. D'anna has never once complained about the pain (beyond that of the normal resurrection process that is) despite almost certainly beyond the three that New Caprica Cavil had, leading me to to think that the pain that Cavil unit felt is probably unique perhaps to not only that particular unit, but that model which if we use the actual age of the actor who plays them, Dean Stockwell,mimics a man in is late 60's early 70's. In contrast the three models which Lucy Lawless plays seem to mimic a human woman in her mid 30's to early 40's. Lucy Lawless is 38, so there is apparently, an approximately a thirty year difference in age. Whether the Cylons built in the effects of age into the Cavils is speculation, but Dr. Cottle did rue the fact that the Cylons didn't improve the plumbing while trying to save Sharon's baby opens the door that they followed the blueprint of mankind too closely. Or maybe they did so for deliberate reasons, since the degeneration of life is the natural order, and Cylons seem to want to be part of the natural order, they built in age in the models that are apparently old. Hunter2005 22:18, 19 December 2006 (CST)

RDM said (in Podcast:Exodus, Part I):

"I also like- this was like an interesting little touch. Just to start implying that the more they download, the less pleasant it becomes. And that there's a sense of, like, pain. And that there's a sense of losing something. That each t- that these downloads are not just so free and easy for them. That they pay a little bit of a price in that doing it multiple times would start have an impact on them as people. That- 'cause I just figure you can't experience death over and over again without it, in fact, impacting you in some way."

So I don't think it was really an age thing so much as them trying to convey a price for repeated downloads (and Cavil just happened to take the hit). They seem to have backed off of this idea, in part, I'd bet, due to the fact that the D'anna model would be on her little suicide vision quest and they probably didn't want it to seem any more masochistic than it already was. --Steelviper 07:28, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Thanks, SV. No problem on the reply time, Hunter. Apparent age is irrelevant, it seems, but temperment might not be. The Cavils revel in the pain of others, so they might get what they give. I don't know about the Threes. There's something to your original comment, at least, although, based on RDM's comment, it might need generalization. Don't let me dissuade you from restating it, although you might want to use the Resurrection (RDM) article for the best fit. --Spencerian 07:36, 20 December 2006 (CST)

Details in Timeline summaries

I'm sorry, and I should probably have said something here the last time I concised your "The Woman King" edit, but that article is not for such extremely detailed summaries. Even some of the older summaries are too detailed and yours go way beyond even that. It's just unnecessary for the purpose of the article and makes it way too long --Serenity 03:48, 20 February 2007 (CST)

Article tense

As per Standards and Conventions most articles are written in the present tense and not the past tense. Past tense is generally only used for events prior to the Miniseries. --Serenity 07:14, 21 February 2007 (CST)

Rollback to History of the Twelve Colonies

The reason why there was a link to the Pegasus episode page was because the sentence about the battlestars is referencing the episode and not meant to link to the page about the actual battlestar type. Thats why it was in brackets (Pegasus) --Mercifull ^{(Talk/Contribs)} 19:50, 23 February 2007 (CST)

Your addition to Anastasia Dualla

I have marked section you added to Anastasia Dualla for cleanup. For reasons and discussion, please go here. --Catrope 14:46, 24 February 2007 (CST)