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We can even make it look like the wiki one theme of course. Just thinking of the usefullness of it. http://blog.battlestarwiki.org/ — I have to think about this idea. Sounds good in theroy, but it takes away from people from trying the Mediawiki software. I would suggest just annocmenets. Otherwise it takes users away. Sorta like Official Annocments only type things. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
We can even make it look like the wiki one theme of course. Just thinking of the usefullness of it. http://blog.battlestarwiki.org/ — I have to think about this idea. Sounds good in theroy, but it takes away from people from trying the Mediawiki software. I would suggest just annocmenets. Otherwise it takes users away. Sorta like Official Annocments only type things. --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 21:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
: That's the idea. The blog would be nothing more than a gateway to get into the wiki itself, as it were. Call it a migration path, if you will. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 23:00, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
::Sounds pretty cool idea. Would like to hear more about ideas for it though. --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 03:05, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
:::Excellent. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 06:52, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
:I vastly prefer this over the idea of an official wiki forum. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 18:41, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
::I have a few questions. Blogs are generally designed for one or two users to enter--it's a journal. It also tends to express a specific voice and is topic-driven, not a chatting board. Aside from mop duty, admins haven't any bigger voice than other contributors. So, if an entry is placed, who places it, and why? How do we control who posts the topic? Are entries generally based on show events, internal wiki topics, or politics? Assuming there is a message response area, who moderates the messages, deleting those that are offtopic or inappropriate? There's a lot of work here, and we really need to define it beyond its good intentions. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:20, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
:::One possibility would be "Sitenotice" type content. "Hey, check out the new audio project", or "Please weigh in at the latest RFA/C", etc. Also you could potentially have weekly entries with links to the current week's episode article(providing a place for the users to respond to the show, as well as well as the episode article coverage). These are good questions, though, and I hope people weigh in with some thoughts. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:33, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
::::This is more or less what I was aiming for. I want people to chime in on changes, though obviously this wouldn't be where policy is discussed. As to who posts, I believe that we could have a RFA-type process to determine who can post on the blog, do the mop duty, and other tasks. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 22:47, 28 September 2006 (CDT)
== Vote / Renew Discussion ==
Does anyone have questions, comments or concerns before voting on this? -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 15:15, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
:This has been my favorite proposal for "non-wiki-editing" user outreach to date. It looks to run the lowest risk of keeping "wiki-business" off of the wiki, while still providing people unfamiliar with the mediawiki interface a chance to provide visible feedback. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 15:27, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
::Agreed. --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 15:57, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
::If we're able to control the little monster based on Joe's clarification, I'm in favor of it. It'll be good for the wiki to have a "mouth" and "ears." --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 08:13, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
:::I've expanded the proposal based on discussions on this talk page. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 10:20, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
::::That answers all my questions for it, so I recommend a vote. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 10:33, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
:::::Second. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:36, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
::::::Third. :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 10:40, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
==Comments on a blog==
I think that if this is going to go ahead we really need to start working on it ASAP. It seems that recently a lot of blogs and forums have been popping up in the run up to Season 3, now while most of those are pretty rubbish with little content on freehosts there are a few that are getting quite a lot of comments which means people are regularly going back to them. I feel that a blog will be a good entrance for people to the wiki. All wiki related discussions will continue to be done right here and the blog will be purely for reviews, speculation, links etc. I have compiled a list of some or the more popular blogs that maybe we can borrow/steal/pillage ideas from --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 12:08, 10 October 2006 (CDT)
*[http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/ RDM's Official Blog]
*[http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/video/blog/ Official SciFi Video Blog]
*[http://galacticablog.com/ Galactica Blog]
*[http://galacticawatercooler.com/ Galactica Watercooler]
*[http://www.infinitebattlestar.com/ Infinite Battlestar]
*[http://galactica-station.blogspot.com/ Galactica Station's blog]
*[http://galacticacic.blogspot.com/ Galactica CIC blog]
*[http://galacticasitrep.blogspot.com/ Battlestar Galactica Sitrep]
*[http://community.livejournal.com/galacticanews/ Galactica News LJ]
*[http://theyhaveaplan.blogspot.com/ "they have a plan" Blog]
*[http://galacticaa.net/ Galacticaa]
*[http://community.livejournal.com/battlestar_blog Battlestar Blog LJ]
*[http://frackingblog.blogspot.com/ Fraking Blog]
The other day I also purchased the domain names [http://www.battlestarforum.com www.battlestarforum.com] [http://www.battlestarforum.net .net] & [http://www.battlestarforum.org .org]. I dont really have any plans for it yet but its a good domain name to have to atm it just directs people to the Wiki. Perhaps people typing that url in or searching might come accross the wiki because of it.
I was also wondering, if this goes ahead, would the blog use a system such as blogger.com (you can still have it work at your own url) or actually run it completely independant on the wiki server. Also would it be as a subdomain [http://blog.battlestarwiki.org blog.battlestarwiki.org] or a completely new url such as [http://www.battlestarblog.com www.battlestarblog.com] (i know that url is already taken) to differentiate from the Wiki? There is a clear difference between wiki and the blog so people dont start talking about stuff that should be done in talk pages for example? --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 04:51, 12 October 2006 (CDT)
== Vote ==
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* Date Ending: {{dateahead|{{JD|2006|10  |5}}|7}}
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# [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin Jr.]] - {{support}}, as originator. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 22:25, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:CalculatinAvatar|CalculatinAvatar]] -
# [[User:Day|Day]] -
# [[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] - {{support}} --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] <sup>([[User talk:Mercifull|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Mercifull|Contribs]])</sup> 12:08, 10 October 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] -
# [[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] - {{support}}. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 06:53, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
# [[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] - {{support}} More communication than before with less risk of redundancy. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 07:06, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
# {{neutral}} --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 23:32, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
# {{support}} --[[User:Gougef|FrankieG]] 07:24, 6 October 2006 (CDT)

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We can even make it look like the wiki one theme of course. Just thinking of the usefullness of it. http://blog.battlestarwiki.org/ — I have to think about this idea. Sounds good in theroy, but it takes away from people from trying the Mediawiki software. I would suggest just annocmenets. Otherwise it takes users away. Sorta like Official Annocments only type things. --Shane (T - C - E) 21:06, 12 September 2006 (CDT)

That's the idea. The blog would be nothing more than a gateway to get into the wiki itself, as it were. Call it a migration path, if you will. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 23:00, 12 September 2006 (CDT)
Sounds pretty cool idea. Would like to hear more about ideas for it though. --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 03:05, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
Excellent. --Steelviper 06:52, 15 September 2006 (CDT)
I vastly prefer this over the idea of an official wiki forum. --April Arcus 18:41, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
I have a few questions. Blogs are generally designed for one or two users to enter--it's a journal. It also tends to express a specific voice and is topic-driven, not a chatting board. Aside from mop duty, admins haven't any bigger voice than other contributors. So, if an entry is placed, who places it, and why? How do we control who posts the topic? Are entries generally based on show events, internal wiki topics, or politics? Assuming there is a message response area, who moderates the messages, deleting those that are offtopic or inappropriate? There's a lot of work here, and we really need to define it beyond its good intentions. --Spencerian 08:20, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
One possibility would be "Sitenotice" type content. "Hey, check out the new audio project", or "Please weigh in at the latest RFA/C", etc. Also you could potentially have weekly entries with links to the current week's episode article(providing a place for the users to respond to the show, as well as well as the episode article coverage). These are good questions, though, and I hope people weigh in with some thoughts. --Steelviper 08:33, 26 September 2006 (CDT)
This is more or less what I was aiming for. I want people to chime in on changes, though obviously this wouldn't be where policy is discussed. As to who posts, I believe that we could have a RFA-type process to determine who can post on the blog, do the mop duty, and other tasks. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 22:47, 28 September 2006 (CDT)

Vote / Renew Discussion[edit]

Does anyone have questions, comments or concerns before voting on this? -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 15:15, 25 September 2006 (CDT)

This has been my favorite proposal for "non-wiki-editing" user outreach to date. It looks to run the lowest risk of keeping "wiki-business" off of the wiki, while still providing people unfamiliar with the mediawiki interface a chance to provide visible feedback. --Steelviper 15:27, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
Agreed. --FrankieG 15:57, 25 September 2006 (CDT)
If we're able to control the little monster based on Joe's clarification, I'm in favor of it. It'll be good for the wiki to have a "mouth" and "ears." --Spencerian 08:13, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
I've expanded the proposal based on discussions on this talk page. Comments, questions, and suggestions are welcome. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 10:20, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
That answers all my questions for it, so I recommend a vote. --Spencerian 10:33, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
Second. --Steelviper 10:36, 29 September 2006 (CDT)
Third. :) --Shane (T - C - E) 10:40, 29 September 2006 (CDT)

Comments on a blog[edit]

I think that if this is going to go ahead we really need to start working on it ASAP. It seems that recently a lot of blogs and forums have been popping up in the run up to Season 3, now while most of those are pretty rubbish with little content on freehosts there are a few that are getting quite a lot of comments which means people are regularly going back to them. I feel that a blog will be a good entrance for people to the wiki. All wiki related discussions will continue to be done right here and the blog will be purely for reviews, speculation, links etc. I have compiled a list of some or the more popular blogs that maybe we can borrow/steal/pillage ideas from --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 12:08, 10 October 2006 (CDT)

The other day I also purchased the domain names www.battlestarforum.com .net & .org. I dont really have any plans for it yet but its a good domain name to have to atm it just directs people to the Wiki. Perhaps people typing that url in or searching might come accross the wiki because of it.

I was also wondering, if this goes ahead, would the blog use a system such as blogger.com (you can still have it work at your own url) or actually run it completely independant on the wiki server. Also would it be as a subdomain blog.battlestarwiki.org or a completely new url such as www.battlestarblog.com (i know that url is already taken) to differentiate from the Wiki? There is a clear difference between wiki and the blog so people dont start talking about stuff that should be done in talk pages for example? --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 04:51, 12 October 2006 (CDT)

Vote[edit]

  • Date Started: Thursday, October 5, 2006 at 12:00 (UTC)
  • Date Ending: Thursday, October 12, 2006 at 12:00 (UTC)
  1. Joe Beaudoin Jr. - Support, as originator. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 22:25, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
  2. CalculatinAvatar -
  3. Day -
  4. Mercifull - Support --Mercifull (Talk/Contribs) 12:08, 10 October 2006 (CDT)
  5. April Arcus -
  6. Spencerian - Support. --Spencerian 06:53, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
  7. Steelviper - Support More communication than before with less risk of redundancy. --Steelviper 07:06, 6 October 2006 (CDT)
  1. Neutral --Shane (T - C - E) 23:32, 5 October 2006 (CDT)
  2. Support --FrankieG 07:24, 6 October 2006 (CDT)