Talk:Battle of Kobol (TRS)/Archive 1

THIS PAGE NEEDS TO BE RE-NAMED: It should be "Battle of Kobol" not "The Battle of Kobol". "The" makes it listed under "T". ---Ricimer

I think this article needs to be separated into distinct engagements, of which there are 3:

1. Events of Day 50-51: Destruction of Raptor 3 and crash-landing of Raptor 1 over Kobol (Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I), subsequent ground-warfare events (Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I through Fragged), destruction of orbiging Basestar by Boomer (Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part II), ambush by second basestar (Scattered) and engagement with Cylon boarding party (Valley of Darkness)
2. Kara's adventures with Helo, cap-Boomer and and Blanders (Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I through The Farm)
3. The Roslin Faction's separation from the Fleet, and the Fleet's return to Kobol to collect them.

Only the first one of these can really be properly termed a battle. It's probably adequate to annote the others in the episode summaries, character biographies (particularly Kara's), and the Laura Roslin faction article. --April Arcus 15:48, 22 Aug 2005 (EDT)

I agree, April. I wanted to add only the events specific to an encounter and minimize character data (that's for other places), but RDM is not necessarily going to have a epic fight everytime a Cylon shows up. You're great at truncating my sometimes-excessive information, so truncate as you see fit keeping the lead-in information in the article in mind. Spencerian 16:57, 22 Aug 2005 (EDT)

I'm not going to start updating this until "Home, Part II" airs, but my plan is to treat it like the Battle of Midway or Leyte Gulf: some major battle that occured on more than one day, but there were several days separating each of the "days of battle". I'd like to mention the loss of two Raptors as this is a big casualty; I definately want to include the destruction of the Basestar in KLG II because it's the only documented instance of the Colonials ever destroying a Cylons Basestar; I think they might not have lost a single Basestar in the fall of the Twelve Colonies. It's a also a use of one of the Galactica's dwindling supply of nukes. As for the stuff on the ground, that might was well go too. ***To be honest, I'd rather that this page was Re-named from "Battle of Kobol" to "Battle FOR Kobol" as this implies a more drawn out affair. Then again, the Colonials aren't fighting to KEEP Kobol, so I don't know. Anyway, I anticipate a big fight in "Home Part II" so I'm going to hold off on updating until then. However, I think a good idea would be to separate it into sections using the " = " sign to break up the headings into separate "Days of Battle" i.e. "First Day of Battle: Loss of 2 Raptors. Second Day of Battle: Basestar nuked, fight for the Nav Coordinates" etc. To be honest, I NEVER wanted to make a "Battle of Kobol". Personally, I was going to make a page that was "Strike Again the Basestar" (which I would have modelled after Wikipedia's page on the WWII Doolittle Raid), then make a "Battle for the Nav Coordinates" page (First known fielding of the Cylon Heavy Raider), and presumably the "Battle of Kobol" in "Home, part II". We shall see. --Ricimer, 22 Aug 2005 10:00 pm EDT.

Edits look great from my windy version, Ricimer and April. Just the fighting facts and that's it. Readable and gives a great tactical stat rundown. Spencerian 23:05, 27 August 2005 (EDT)

Re-imagined Series definition: used to signify a civilian transport vessel over a certain gross weight/mass, i.e. Colonial Heavy 798