User talk:Wingsandsword

DRADIS revert on 1-10-06

Wingsandsword, I reverted your last edit on the DRADIS article because you hadn't cited a source for your edit. Please verify the episode and line of dialogue where you heard the error. Such an error should also be noted in the Continuity errors (RDM) article as appropriate. --Spencerian 09:11, 10 January 2006 (EST)

I replied on Talk:Dradis, but here's the cite:

Thrace: The decoy ships will jump into the enemy star system at extreme radar range from the Cylon asteroid. Galactica will jump here, close enough to launch its Vipers at the base.

I think the episode cite should be adequate, but I guess we could footnote the dialogue too. --April Arcus 12:13, 10 January 2006 (EST)

No, I rewatched the episode: although transcripts on Galacticastation.com say "radar" I think they mishead it: Starbuck says "The Decoy ships will jump into the enemy star system at extreme Raider range from the Cylon asteroid" ; they're jumping in at the furthest distance from the asteroid that they know that Cylon Raiders can still be sent to follow them; they wanted to draw the Raiders out as far as possible. --Ricimer 12:44, 10 January 2006 (EST)

Interesting thought. I guess it could be either. --April Arcus 16:05, 10 January 2006 (EST)

I verified it, I citied it before by putting in the article (which is enough for almost everything else on this Wiki, but if you really want a footnote there it could be done). It's in The Hand Of God, at the scene where Starbuck is giving her plan. It's at 11:53 into the episode, in DVD chapter 2, the line is "the decoy ships will jump into the enemy star system at extreme radar range" which is also what the Closed Captioning says, and the transcripts of the episode. I went back and watched the scene 10 times, it's "radar range". Likely a goof, but one that could be interpreted that "radar" is slang or a little-used term for the more technically accurate Dradis. "Raider range" doesn't really make sense, since in the miniseries it was made clear that ships can fly for hours from one end of a star system to another at sublight regularly (also backed up in "You Can't Go Home Again", where vipers spend many hours in the air before running low on fuel), and they know that the maximum range of a raider is at least Caprica. Since they were only several minutes out from the raiders, they were nowhere near their maximum range. --Wingsandsword 14:34, 10 January 2006 (EST)

No, DVD transcripts have been wrong before, and aren't always reliable. And in the same episode, same scene, they talk about how "without that base the Raiders won't be able to refuel or rearm", so logically, there is a maximum range at which they would deploy raiders. If anyone else wants to listen to this on their DVD it would help, but it really sounds like she says "Raider" and I wouldn't jump to saying it's a continuity error on this alone. --Ricimer 21:04, 10 January 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the diligence in verifying and nice catch. That's a really, really bad dialogue error you'd think someone would have discovered. Oh, well. --Spencerian 17:10, 10 January 2006 (EST)

Re-imagined Series definition: "Direction, Range, and Distance", Colonial equivalent of radar or lidar

Re-imagined Series definition: the process of using the FTL engines to make an near-instantaneous apparent faster-than-light transport of a ship from one point in space to another