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==What was that device Roslin and Leoben were using to communicate with the rest of the Fleet?==
==What was that device Roslin and Leoben were using to communicate with the rest of the Fleet?==
Best guess its a part from the Commsystem of Starbucks Viper that was capable of receiving the homing signal from earth, that noone else could receive. We saw Starbuck and Leoben track down the signal on earth so they probably removed it from the Viper and had it with them. Given Starbucks reaction to finding her body and everyone else being told nothing had been found, it imaginable that Leoben simply kept it, as noone else was bothering about it. [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 23:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Best guess its a part from the Commsystem of Starbucks Viper that was capable of receiving the homing signal from earth, that noone else could receive. We saw Starbuck and Leoben track down the signal on earth so they probably removed it from the Viper and had it with them. Given Starbucks reaction to finding her body and everyone else being told nothing had been found, it imaginable that Leoben simply kept it, as noone else was bothering about it. [[User:Nevfennas|Nevfennas]] 23:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
:I tend to think otherwise, because
:*that equipment from the super-clean Viper would be a receiver, not a transmitter,
:*Tyrol and Anders comment that something is different about the super-clean Viper, and that could possibly include the special receiver that was not in the wreckage of Kara's Viper from "Maelstrom", and
:*the Cylons probably have much more advanced countermeasures; after all, they forced the Colonials to abandon networks, esp the wireless variety, didn't they?
-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 02:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


== FTL room damage ==
== FTL room damage ==
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:That was my initial reaction as well. Raptors! I guess we'll find out soon... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 03:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:That was my initial reaction as well. Raptors! I guess we'll find out soon... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 03:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::Isn't that the same damage Adama found in his quartes in the clip shown in that YouWillKnowTheTruth site??? It looks the same!! [[User:Tanketai|tanketai]] 15:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::Isn't that the same damage Adama found in his quartes in the clip shown in that YouWillKnowTheTruth site??? It looks the same!! [[User:Tanketai|tanketai]] 15:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree.  I'm leaning towards cumulative metal fatigue ... the old gal's been through a lot a pit stop, after all.-- [[User:Fredmdbud|Fredmdbud]] 02:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


== Some symbolism ==
== Some symbolism ==
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== Is someone going to finish adding the rest of the summary? ==
== Is someone going to finish adding the rest of the summary? ==


The summary is running rather late.  Is someone going to finish it? I certainly don't want to be the one who has to do that (doing the Teaser was long enough).
The summary is running rather late.  Is someone going to finish it? I certainly don't want to be the one who has to do that (doing the Teaser was long enough). {{unsigned|GreenDalek}}
:I think Spencerian often does it, but it's not really assigned to any particular person (that I'm aware of). If it drives you too crazy, feel free to continue your [[BW:BOLD|"boldness"]], otherwise, I'm sure somebody will step up to the plate... eventually. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:: I think I may just cut and pace stuff from patriot resources if no one's going to do this. -- [[User:GreenDalek|GreenDalek]] 23:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::: Please, do '''not''' merely copy and paste from other websites. Please write it on your own. Thank you! -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 23:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:::: I've just created a new account (for the purposes of editing), but I've been a longtime reader of this wiki, so I'd love to take a crack at it if no one has any objections. --[[User:LawNinja|LawNinja]] 2:14, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Make it so. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 02:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Looks great so far. Glad to have another inmate to run the asylum. (It really is a free for all here, and just about everything is fair game to those who care to seize the edits.) --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 03:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::: Thank you.  Everything's good now! -- [[User:GreenDalek|GreenDalek]] 17:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Great job! Sorry, I did often jump in to doing these, but I was ill all this weekend--and I didn't want to "bogart" the episode guides and let someone else take a stab. --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 01:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== 35 Ships ==
 
I find it hard to believe that Gaeta's quote, 10 ships out of 35 is in reference to the entire fleet. That means half the fleets ships are gone, which doesn't jive with the number of people still alive OR onscreen destructions. If I'm not mistaken we've seen less than 10 ships destroyed on screen (Pixis, the Rising Star and 2-3 others, I think there were 3 lost in The Passage).
 
Since Gaeta doesn't definitively say anything that would indicate that 35 ships is nothing more than a statistic of some kind, and not necessarily the entire fleet, I'm going to remove that note from the Analysis section unless someone objects.[[User:RUSnooky|RUSnooky]] 04:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 
:I always assumed a number of ships did not make it off of the surface of new caprica, and this was the reason people were living in the galactica's starboard hangar deck. If this is the case, 35 doesn't seem too few.{{unsigned|Dogspunk}}
 
== No New Quorum? ==
 
An interesting statement by RDM in the podcast for this ep:
"And the end of the Quorum. Really just- I mean, now we're really moving into the endgames of the- endgame of the entire series. I mean- we began the series without a Quorum and we're ending the series without a Quorum. " Not sure if that's definitive or not, but maybe worth noting? --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 23:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 
== Zarek's Joke ==
 
As Tom Zarek is escorted from the flight deck, we hear the ending of a joke that he is telling to Racetrack:
" . . . shall we save the kids? And the attorney says, 'Frak them'. And the priest says, 'Do we have time?' "
 
After both laugh, Racetrack says, "You're gross."
-- [[User:Dogger55|Dogger55]] 18:43, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
 
* Since you've linked this section of the talk page in both "[[Blood on the Scales]]" and the "[[Religion of the Twelve Colonies (RDM)]]" articles, this should go in the "Noteworthy Quotes" section of the article, really. It's typically not a good idea to link to talk pages, since they can be archived and thus the links invalidated. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 21:09, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
*Done, and thanks for the tip. I wanted you to know that I struggled with NPOV on this one. I am not trying to condemn the Church or disparage the seriousness of allegations against it, or spark a debate here; this is a tragic and complicated issue. I just though it interesting to note the similarity between Colonial culture and ours. I first considered the joke an anachronism, but as I was writing up the Note, I decided that any large organization (religious, military, government) would have at least a few bad apples and that Colonial culture (like ours) might put other members under a cloud of suspicion because of the actions of a few. -- [[User:Dogger55|Dogger55]] 07:55, 17 July 2011 (EDT)
** Looks like you've done a good job. :) -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]]</sup> 17:09, 17 July 2011 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 21:09, 17 July 2011

Episode Title Confirmation[edit]

Please submit the source of this episode title's name in the article. --Spencerian 22:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

The source is (kinda) noted in the article: [1] -- Serenity 23:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

What was that device Roslin and Leoben were using to communicate with the rest of the Fleet?[edit]

Best guess its a part from the Commsystem of Starbucks Viper that was capable of receiving the homing signal from earth, that noone else could receive. We saw Starbuck and Leoben track down the signal on earth so they probably removed it from the Viper and had it with them. Given Starbucks reaction to finding her body and everyone else being told nothing had been found, it imaginable that Leoben simply kept it, as noone else was bothering about it. Nevfennas 23:02, 7 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

I tend to think otherwise, because
  • that equipment from the super-clean Viper would be a receiver, not a transmitter,
  • Tyrol and Anders comment that something is different about the super-clean Viper, and that could possibly include the special receiver that was not in the wreckage of Kara's Viper from "Maelstrom", and
  • the Cylons probably have much more advanced countermeasures; after all, they forced the Colonials to abandon networks, esp the wireless variety, didn't they?

-- Fredmdbud 02:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

FTL room damage[edit]

Am I the only one who thinks the damage Tyrol finds looks like giant scratch marks? nuxi

That was my initial reaction as well. Raptors! I guess we'll find out soon... --Steelviper 03:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Isn't that the same damage Adama found in his quartes in the clip shown in that YouWillKnowTheTruth site??? It looks the same!! tanketai 15:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
I agree. I'm leaning towards cumulative metal fatigue ... the old gal's been through a lot a pit stop, after all.-- Fredmdbud 02:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Some symbolism[edit]

The symbolism of Colonial One landing on Galactica is an indication of the authocratic leadership that is taking place. A merging of politics and military is akin to the German's "Night of the Long Knives" in 1934. On that night (two days actually) Hitler began the consolidation of his power with the military by assassinating both political and paramilitary threats. -- Hufnmouth 15:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Is someone going to finish adding the rest of the summary?[edit]

The summary is running rather late. Is someone going to finish it? I certainly don't want to be the one who has to do that (doing the Teaser was long enough). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GreenDalek (talk • contribs).

I think Spencerian often does it, but it's not really assigned to any particular person (that I'm aware of). If it drives you too crazy, feel free to continue your "boldness", otherwise, I'm sure somebody will step up to the plate... eventually. --Steelviper 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
I think I may just cut and pace stuff from patriot resources if no one's going to do this. -- GreenDalek 23:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Please, do not merely copy and paste from other websites. Please write it on your own. Thank you! -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 23:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
I've just created a new account (for the purposes of editing), but I've been a longtime reader of this wiki, so I'd love to take a crack at it if no one has any objections. --LawNinja 2:14, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Make it so. :) -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 02:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Looks great so far. Glad to have another inmate to run the asylum. (It really is a free for all here, and just about everything is fair game to those who care to seize the edits.) --Steelviper 03:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. Everything's good now! -- GreenDalek 17:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Reply
Great job! Sorry, I did often jump in to doing these, but I was ill all this weekend--and I didn't want to "bogart" the episode guides and let someone else take a stab. --Spencerian 01:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

35 Ships[edit]

I find it hard to believe that Gaeta's quote, 10 ships out of 35 is in reference to the entire fleet. That means half the fleets ships are gone, which doesn't jive with the number of people still alive OR onscreen destructions. If I'm not mistaken we've seen less than 10 ships destroyed on screen (Pixis, the Rising Star and 2-3 others, I think there were 3 lost in The Passage).

Since Gaeta doesn't definitively say anything that would indicate that 35 ships is nothing more than a statistic of some kind, and not necessarily the entire fleet, I'm going to remove that note from the Analysis section unless someone objects.RUSnooky 04:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

I always assumed a number of ships did not make it off of the surface of new caprica, and this was the reason people were living in the galactica's starboard hangar deck. If this is the case, 35 doesn't seem too few.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dogspunk (talk • contribs).

No New Quorum?[edit]

An interesting statement by RDM in the podcast for this ep: "And the end of the Quorum. Really just- I mean, now we're really moving into the endgames of the- endgame of the entire series. I mean- we began the series without a Quorum and we're ending the series without a Quorum. " Not sure if that's definitive or not, but maybe worth noting? --Steelviper 23:08, 19 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

Zarek's Joke[edit]

As Tom Zarek is escorted from the flight deck, we hear the ending of a joke that he is telling to Racetrack: " . . . shall we save the kids? And the attorney says, 'Frak them'. And the priest says, 'Do we have time?' "

After both laugh, Racetrack says, "You're gross." -- Dogger55 18:43, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

  • Since you've linked this section of the talk page in both "Blood on the Scales" and the "Religion of the Twelve Colonies (RDM)" articles, this should go in the "Noteworthy Quotes" section of the article, really. It's typically not a good idea to link to talk pages, since they can be archived and thus the links invalidated. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate 21:09, 16 July 2011 (EDT)
  • Done, and thanks for the tip. I wanted you to know that I struggled with NPOV on this one. I am not trying to condemn the Church or disparage the seriousness of allegations against it, or spark a debate here; this is a tragic and complicated issue. I just though it interesting to note the similarity between Colonial culture and ours. I first considered the joke an anachronism, but as I was writing up the Note, I decided that any large organization (religious, military, government) would have at least a few bad apples and that Colonial culture (like ours) might put other members under a cloud of suspicion because of the actions of a few. -- Dogger55 07:55, 17 July 2011 (EDT)