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Can anyone post the text of the UFO disclaimer that aired at the end of each Galactica 1980 episode? Does anyone know why it was included?
Can anyone post the text of the UFO disclaimer that aired at the end of each Galactica 1980 episode? Does anyone know why it was included?
==Request for Screencapture==
If anybody could find/post a capture of "Col. Boomer", I'd like to use it to create a Boomer (1980). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 12:06, 6 January 2006 (EST)
== Fleet Link ==
Should we use <nowiki>[[The Fleet]]</nowiki> or <nowiki>[[The Fleet (TOS)]]</nowiki>? The latter is somewhat misleading (though only somewhat), but the former leads only to a disambiguation page. I think we should use the former until we can get <nowiki>[[The Fleet (1980)]]</nowiki> going. That way, we can still easily find the pages that should link to 1980 when we need to do another find and replace run. --[[User:Day|Day]] 00:08, 15 January 2006 (EST)
:It's not exactly the pinnacle of consistancy and elegance, but since there's probably little content specific to just the 1980 fleet, I'd link to [[The Fleet (TOS)]], and footnote the relevant details there. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 04:14, 15 January 2006 (EST)
== THE DAY THEY KIDNAPPED CLEOPATRA  ==
There should be some information about the future episodes of this series. The script for this episode can be found in http://www.blast.net/hart/DayThey.htm. Other scripts are in http://www.blast.net/hart/Scripts.htm --[[User:Jcnventura|Jcnventura]] 10:19, 16 March 2006 (CST)
:My admiration for anyone willing to document this is considerable, but I must ask if you can provide a second source to corroborate that site. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 20:10, 16 March 2006 (CST)
::There are several sites that mention the name of the episode, but only this one has the script summary. After having read it, it is stupid enough to validate as an episode of G1980... :) I have seen many good information sources on Galactica go down over the years, so I would like to write about it here. The only way to make sure is to try to buy the script on ebay one of these days. I will create the articles and then we can discuss if they should be deleted because we can't verify it at multiple sources. -- [[User:Jcnventura|Jcnventura]] 04:12, 17 March 2006 (CST)
:::My only concern is verifying that this isn't fanficton before we report on it here. --[[User:April Arcus|April Arcus]] 04:24, 17 March 2006 (CST)
::::I've heard of it as well.  It is a valid script, like "Wheel of Fire" (I believe that to be the name).  It was one of the few scripts that were in the works before ABC (thankfully) pulled the plug on G80. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] 08:22, 17 March 2006 (CST)
==DVD==
A DVD of the 1980 series is on sale from ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BATTLESTAR-GALACTICA-1980-ON-DVD_W0QQitemZ9127700854QQcategoryZ2307QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 10:35, 19 April 2006 (CDT)
:Note the TV rating on the upper left. Plus... all 10 episodes on 1 DVD? This has to be some sort of a broadcast quality squeezed onto 1 dvd rather than a DVD quality release. It'd no doubt be handy to have it just for viewing purposes, but it looks like it's pretty bootleg/unofficial. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:41, 19 April 2006 (CDT)
::Yes, probably avi standard but it could be worth it for a fiver. --[[User:Grafix|Grafix]] 10:51, 19 April 2006 (CDT)
== 1980 Marathon on Scifi 6/20 ==
It appears there will be something of a 1980 marathon on tomorrow. I've set up a season pass to try to pick it up, and I'll double check it when I get home. I'm not terribly excited at the prospect, but it does open a potential source for getting screen captures for anybody interested in doing so. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 11:18, 19 June 2006 (CDT)
:I managed to record all 8 hours of it, so I've got all of 1980 on my Tivo box except for super scouts (I and II). --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:38, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
::"except for super scouts" not a great loss :P --[[User:Mercifull|Mercifull]] 10:51, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
::On behalf of everyone, I've begun my ritual screaming and gnashing of teeth as a proxy for anyone who's crazy enough to watch any of this. My dental bills are paid up, so I can withstand the penance for your souls... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 19:26, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
::rofl. I getting my braces off June 28th..... that's going to be PAIN! --[[User:Shane|Shane]] <sup>([[User_Talk:Shane|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/Shane|C]] - [[Special:Editcount/Shane|E]])</sup> 19:28, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
== 1980 Season ==
We should probably look at creating a "season" page for this saga, to be consistent with TOS and RDM. We'd probably end up moving a lot of content from here (like the episode listing) to that page. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 19:40, 26 December 2007 (CST)
: For consistency's sake, I agree. By the way, my copy arrives tomorrow from Amazon, so I'll be starting work on the 1980 stuff... uh... soon as I finish my disambiguation crusade, I guess. <drsmith>Oh the pain, the pain. </drsmith>-- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 19:48, 26 December 2007 (CST)
::I'm afraid to remove the shrinkwrap on mine. Clowns in Nazi outfits will get me. It's Pandora's box, man.... --[[User:Spencerian|Spencerian]] 20:49, 26 December 2007 (CST)
:::Mine hasn't arrived yet (super saver shipping). Hopefully it gets lost in the mail... --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 08:15, 27 December 2007 (CST)
== Subtitles ==
I've been watching with subtitles... and they're awful. They generally track ok, only to majorly screw up every now and then. "Criminals," read the subtitle in part three. Dillon actually said, "Primitives." We'll have to be careful about using them as sources. --[[User:Steelviper|Steelviper]] 10:23, 29 December 2007 (CST)
: Agreed. I noticed that they spell Xaviar, "Xavier", at least in Part II, while I have scripts that spell it Xaviar. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [http://www.sanctuarywiki.org Sanctuary Wiki &mdash; ''New'']</sup> 10:30, 29 December 2007 (CST)
== Followed by the Second Coming?? ==
Why is the Second coming mentioned as the follow-up to G80? It's never been aired outside of conventions and it's only a demo trailer of what could be.. The TOS storyline reached the end (for now...) with the 'Return of Starbuck' episode. -- [[User:Jcnventura|Jcnventura]] 06:26, 14 February 2008 (CST)
:Concur. I pulled it. --08:52, 14 February 2008 (CST)
== Canon / Continuity ==
I understand that the series is generally considered to be hardly watchable, but is it considered to be part of TOS continuity? --[[User:RedKnight|RedKnight]] 14:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
: It's a unique situation. It's certainly derived from the TOS continuity and could be considered a part of it, as it is technically a spin-off. However, given the comments from Glen Larson—where Larson said he would ignore 1980 itself and ignore all ties with TOS completely, if given the chance—and other crew members over years (Busch and Cole come prominently to mind), ''1980'' is treated as an offshoot from the primary TOS continuity and not a part of it. (Unlike ''Caprica'' or the Re-imagined Series, where both are part of the same continuity.) So... there's your answer. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 15:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
::In that case, focusing on the phrase "if given the chance" I think it best considered part of the TOS continuity as there is no common concensus.
::Of course there is still the qwustion of what else is considered main continuity and not (comics for example), but I know such items are typically not part of continuity. --[[User:RedKnight|RedKnight]] 19:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, you might not be aware of this, but the common consensus on a majority of the TOS fandom in question is to ignore ''1980'' entirely. There is also Glen Larson's continued insistence on the subject—notably his crack about ''1980'' being Starbuck's bad dream—that dictates this otherwise odd separation. Further, comics are generally considered [[BW:SEPCON|separate continuity]] sources, and therefore not canon. -- [[User:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|Joe Beaudoin]] <sup>[[User talk:Joe Beaudoin Jr.|So say we all]] - [[Battlestar Wiki:Site support|Donate]] - [[bsp:|Battlestar Pegasus]]</sup> 19:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, that does make sense although simply "not liking" something does not make it stop existing.  Jumping into Star Trek for comparison, the age-old debate about the animated series being canon or not within TOS has begun to sway towards its inclusion believe it or not.  Similarly, just about anything Star Wars is "supposed" to be canon, yet since Lucas does not like the infamous Holiday Special it is not canon, yet many fans argue with this decision regardless of his views.
::::Comics and novels... I would automatically consider any non-canon excepts where expressly stated such as the Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics.  Difficult choices overall and many open to individual interpretation I guess. --[[User:RedKnight|Watcher of the Omniverse]] 23:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:39, 11 April 2020

Request for information: Can anyone post the text of the UFO disclaimer that aired at the end of each Galactica 1980 episode? Does anyone know why it was included?

Request for Screencapture

If anybody could find/post a capture of "Col. Boomer", I'd like to use it to create a Boomer (1980). --Steelviper 12:06, 6 January 2006 (EST)

Fleet Link

Should we use [[The Fleet]] or [[The Fleet (TOS)]]? The latter is somewhat misleading (though only somewhat), but the former leads only to a disambiguation page. I think we should use the former until we can get [[The Fleet (1980)]] going. That way, we can still easily find the pages that should link to 1980 when we need to do another find and replace run. --Day 00:08, 15 January 2006 (EST)

It's not exactly the pinnacle of consistancy and elegance, but since there's probably little content specific to just the 1980 fleet, I'd link to The Fleet (TOS), and footnote the relevant details there. --April Arcus 04:14, 15 January 2006 (EST)

THE DAY THEY KIDNAPPED CLEOPATRA

There should be some information about the future episodes of this series. The script for this episode can be found in http://www.blast.net/hart/DayThey.htm. Other scripts are in http://www.blast.net/hart/Scripts.htm --Jcnventura 10:19, 16 March 2006 (CST)

My admiration for anyone willing to document this is considerable, but I must ask if you can provide a second source to corroborate that site. --April Arcus 20:10, 16 March 2006 (CST)
There are several sites that mention the name of the episode, but only this one has the script summary. After having read it, it is stupid enough to validate as an episode of G1980... :) I have seen many good information sources on Galactica go down over the years, so I would like to write about it here. The only way to make sure is to try to buy the script on ebay one of these days. I will create the articles and then we can discuss if they should be deleted because we can't verify it at multiple sources. -- Jcnventura 04:12, 17 March 2006 (CST)
My only concern is verifying that this isn't fanficton before we report on it here. --April Arcus 04:24, 17 March 2006 (CST)
I've heard of it as well. It is a valid script, like "Wheel of Fire" (I believe that to be the name). It was one of the few scripts that were in the works before ABC (thankfully) pulled the plug on G80. -- Joe Beaudoin 08:22, 17 March 2006 (CST)

DVD

A DVD of the 1980 series is on sale from ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BATTLESTAR-GALACTICA-1980-ON-DVD_W0QQitemZ9127700854QQcategoryZ2307QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

--Grafix 10:35, 19 April 2006 (CDT)

Note the TV rating on the upper left. Plus... all 10 episodes on 1 DVD? This has to be some sort of a broadcast quality squeezed onto 1 dvd rather than a DVD quality release. It'd no doubt be handy to have it just for viewing purposes, but it looks like it's pretty bootleg/unofficial. --Steelviper 10:41, 19 April 2006 (CDT)
Yes, probably avi standard but it could be worth it for a fiver. --Grafix 10:51, 19 April 2006 (CDT)

1980 Marathon on Scifi 6/20

It appears there will be something of a 1980 marathon on tomorrow. I've set up a season pass to try to pick it up, and I'll double check it when I get home. I'm not terribly excited at the prospect, but it does open a potential source for getting screen captures for anybody interested in doing so. --Steelviper 11:18, 19 June 2006 (CDT)

I managed to record all 8 hours of it, so I've got all of 1980 on my Tivo box except for super scouts (I and II). --Steelviper 10:38, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
"except for super scouts" not a great loss :P --Mercifull 10:51, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
On behalf of everyone, I've begun my ritual screaming and gnashing of teeth as a proxy for anyone who's crazy enough to watch any of this. My dental bills are paid up, so I can withstand the penance for your souls... --Spencerian 19:26, 22 June 2006 (CDT)
rofl. I getting my braces off June 28th..... that's going to be PAIN! --Shane (T - C - E) 19:28, 22 June 2006 (CDT)

1980 Season

We should probably look at creating a "season" page for this saga, to be consistent with TOS and RDM. We'd probably end up moving a lot of content from here (like the episode listing) to that page. --Steelviper 19:40, 26 December 2007 (CST)

For consistency's sake, I agree. By the way, my copy arrives tomorrow from Amazon, so I'll be starting work on the 1980 stuff... uh... soon as I finish my disambiguation crusade, I guess. <drsmith>Oh the pain, the pain. </drsmith>-- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New 19:48, 26 December 2007 (CST)
I'm afraid to remove the shrinkwrap on mine. Clowns in Nazi outfits will get me. It's Pandora's box, man.... --Spencerian 20:49, 26 December 2007 (CST)
Mine hasn't arrived yet (super saver shipping). Hopefully it gets lost in the mail... --Steelviper 08:15, 27 December 2007 (CST)

Subtitles

I've been watching with subtitles... and they're awful. They generally track ok, only to majorly screw up every now and then. "Criminals," read the subtitle in part three. Dillon actually said, "Primitives." We'll have to be careful about using them as sources. --Steelviper 10:23, 29 December 2007 (CST)

Agreed. I noticed that they spell Xaviar, "Xavier", at least in Part II, while I have scripts that spell it Xaviar. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Sanctuary Wiki — New 10:30, 29 December 2007 (CST)

Followed by the Second Coming??

Why is the Second coming mentioned as the follow-up to G80? It's never been aired outside of conventions and it's only a demo trailer of what could be.. The TOS storyline reached the end (for now...) with the 'Return of Starbuck' episode. -- Jcnventura 06:26, 14 February 2008 (CST)

Concur. I pulled it. --08:52, 14 February 2008 (CST)

Canon / Continuity

I understand that the series is generally considered to be hardly watchable, but is it considered to be part of TOS continuity? --RedKnight 14:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply

It's a unique situation. It's certainly derived from the TOS continuity and could be considered a part of it, as it is technically a spin-off. However, given the comments from Glen Larson—where Larson said he would ignore 1980 itself and ignore all ties with TOS completely, if given the chance—and other crew members over years (Busch and Cole come prominently to mind), 1980 is treated as an offshoot from the primary TOS continuity and not a part of it. (Unlike Caprica or the Re-imagined Series, where both are part of the same continuity.) So... there's your answer. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 15:22, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
In that case, focusing on the phrase "if given the chance" I think it best considered part of the TOS continuity as there is no common concensus.
Of course there is still the qwustion of what else is considered main continuity and not (comics for example), but I know such items are typically not part of continuity. --RedKnight 19:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
Actually, you might not be aware of this, but the common consensus on a majority of the TOS fandom in question is to ignore 1980 entirely. There is also Glen Larson's continued insistence on the subject—notably his crack about 1980 being Starbuck's bad dream—that dictates this otherwise odd separation. Further, comics are generally considered separate continuity sources, and therefore not canon. -- Joe Beaudoin So say we all - Donate - Battlestar Pegasus 19:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply
Well, that does make sense although simply "not liking" something does not make it stop existing. Jumping into Star Trek for comparison, the age-old debate about the animated series being canon or not within TOS has begun to sway towards its inclusion believe it or not. Similarly, just about anything Star Wars is "supposed" to be canon, yet since Lucas does not like the infamous Holiday Special it is not canon, yet many fans argue with this decision regardless of his views.
Comics and novels... I would automatically consider any non-canon excepts where expressly stated such as the Buffy the Vampire Slayer comics. Difficult choices overall and many open to individual interpretation I guess. --Watcher of the Omniverse 23:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)Reply