Talk:Life Forms of the Twelve Colonies/Archive 1

I remember cats from Starbuck's nonsense dialogue with Adama and rats from a scene on Caprica, but when were dogs, horses and goats mentioned? --April Arcus 23:15, 11 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Okay, that's resolved. What about Tobacco? Does that exist in this universe, or is it replaced by the Fumarella plant? --April Arcus 16:38, 12 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Tiger

Now why exactly is Gaeta's full name and a link to his page included? We didn't do that for anybody else. I think his name is as instantly recognizable as anyone else's. Rocky8311 02:20, October 19, 2005 (EDT)

Changed it since it bothers you. This page could use some love from Battlestar wiki:Standards and Conventions - after we figure out quote formats, anyway. --April Arcus 02:24, 19 October 2005 (EDT)

Coffea

Coffea is a plant. Coffee is a drink. --April Arcus 19:39, 27 October 2005 (EDT)

http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/search?p=coffea&searchmode=normal&x=0&y=0 http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/c/c0457400.html Coffea is a genus name, not an English-language name for a variety of plant. --CalculatinAvatar 01:59, 29 December 2005 (EST)

It's been "Coffea" at wikipedia since last March without any comments. --April Arcus 02:23, 29 December 2005 (EST)

Well, I'd argue Wikipedia is not authoritative as a source; while I read it a great deal, it values consensus over credentials far more than is healthy for a reference of anything but convenience. Anyway, that page seems to be named for the genus, as "coffea" is used only to refer to the genus in the body of the article. It is never used to mean "coffee plant," which is used several times; additionally, "coffea" appears in italics with the exception of a single caption; although there are several reasons it might be italicized, the most reasonable is that it is italicized as a foreign language (Latin) word. Coffee plant is a redirect to a particular species on Wikipedia, so Wikipedia behaves rather incosistently on the matter. Besides, I'd consider a dictionary a more authoritative source on an issue of spelling. --CalculatinAvatar 02:39, 29 December 2005 (EST)

Okay. "Coffee plant" with a pipe to wikipedia's "Coffea" entry? --April Arcus 11:40, 29 December 2005 (EST)

That sounds perfect; I'll change it. --CalculatinAvatar 16:25, 29 December 2005 (EST)

Beef, Pork, and Fish Products

In a deleted scene from The Farm, Lee explains to President Roslin and Elosha that the ship's heavily guarded freezer contains, "the last steaks, chops, burgers, roasts, briskets, and fillets left anywhere in the universe." Which could indicate that cows, pigs, and/or boars existed in the colonies (fish already having been established in dialogue by Baltar and Leoben).

Can this be included in the wiki even though it's from a deleted scene (not exactly canon). --Mason 00:19, 22 November 2005 (EST)

If it were an actual deleted scene posted to scifi.com, as was the case for several cut scenes from season 1, I wouldn't hesitate. As it is, all we have is Moore's paraphrase of cut dialogue to go on, so I'm a little hesitant. --April Arcus 00:51, 22 November 2005 (EST)

No, it was posted up on the official site; all of the delightful deleted scenes for season 2....except ANY from Pegasus; guess the extra 15 minutes was so long we'll have to wait for the Extended DVD Director's Cut. -->There's quite a bit of info in these deleted scenes, many of which were only deleted for time and pacing reasons, but get stuff from series bible, etc. We're going to have to figure out our policy on this (sometimes we say "in a deleted scene this was said" and other times we just put deleted scene material in as a given, but we're going to have to spend some time sorting this out. That said, I don't think we should assume there are cows and pigs because "steaks and fillets" are just cuts of meat and could conceivably come off of any kind of animal. --Ricimer 01:29, 22 November 2005 (EST)

Gah. How did I miss this? --April Arcus 11:57, 22 November 2005 (EST)

I suppose, in the end, it's an interesting anecdote, but not conclusive about any particular life form, merely indicative of how those life forms can be served as meals. --Mason 12:42, 22 November 2005 (EST)

Bats

Bats were seen in Litmus flying out of that warehouse in the unnamed Caprican city that Helo rescued G-Sharon. --Homeworld616 14:16, 3 July 2006 (CDT)

Native Colonial Animals seen in the Series

I rolled back Serenity's recent removal of a comment that the dog, Jake, is the only Colonial-native animal actually seen in the series, but without a documented source for the removal. Has there been any other live animal from the Colonies that has been seen (not just mentioned) prior to Jake? If so, please name the source(s) and add them to the article, whereby the notation on Jake the Dog can be removed. --Spencerian 10:30, 3 January 2007 (CST)

Bats can been seen in Litmus flying out of a building (see talk point above. Doesn't seem to have been added to the article). I think rats - or one at least - can be seen in that scene where Helo and Sharon find a dead body; they shoot one. Although it's non-Colonial, a bird is seen on Kobol.

You shouldn't have just reverted everything though. I added some bulletpoints for clarity and a tense fix too --Serenity 10:35, 3 January 2007 (CST)

Thanks for the clarification. Sorry for the rollback's effects; as you might learn yourself, rollbacks take away all recent consecutive contributions by a user, a side-effect I sometimes forget. --Spencerian 11:54, 3 January 2007 (CST)

Here you can see a rat from "Bastille Day" and here are bats from "Litmus". So Jake and Lampkin's cat are not the only live animals in the show. --Serenity 10:58, 30 March 2007 (CDT)